Israel/Palestine

pelsar

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50. unattractive land? this is really one of the dumbest arguments...

Fri Dec 6, 2013, 01:48 AM

Dec 2013

Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:56 AM - Edit history (2)

The South Bedouin live on unattractive land that no one particularly wanted until a few years ago.

so if i understand your argument...and feel free to elaborate: because the negev is "unattractive", that means just the citizens who live there with a specific genetics should be allowed to either ignore israeli housing laws and or have special laws created for them, ones based on their genetics.

we will keep this very simple (and ignore you properly rights respected claim for the meantime).

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lets just say we're clarifying your standard for laws here....Laws based on race are perfectly acceptable to you

(and yes i'm well aware that racial based laws i.e sometimes referred to as affirmative action other time referred to apartheid , is one of the holies of holies)

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I was referring to the alleged pro Israeli posters here in the US. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #32

yeah ... " the alleged pro Israeli posters here in the US " Israeli Dec 2013 #33

K-D is atheist so he's not motivated by his religion. n/t shira Dec 2013 #35

K-D is "special" shira ... Israeli Dec 2013 #41

You were wrong, weren't you? It was a lie to claim K-D is motivated by his religion. shira Dec 2013 #44

So when Israel forcibly removes R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #2

There's nothing stopping any Bedouin from purchasing/leasing land there. n/t shira Dec 2013 #36

If anybody noticed, you didn't answer the question. You just made up your own answer R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #81

The lucky chaps could have been Bedouin buying plots of land themselves. shira Dec 2013 #82

Probably poverty is stoppig them... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #83

You didn't answer me. I'm waiting. n/t shira Dec 2013 #84

Hope your racism and excuses keeps you warm this Christmas season, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #85

I know these simple questions obliterate your attempts to demonize.... shira Dec 2013 #86

So when Israel forcibly removes R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #87

See, you're incapable of answering the simplest questions that obliterate yr arguments. shira Dec 2013 #88

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Liberals don't demonize a certain ethnic group 24/7/365 like anti-zio BDS liars.... shira Dec 2013 #90

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You're lying again. I don't support ethnic cleansing and don't deny anything... shira Dec 2013 #96

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So when Israel forcibly removes R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #93

A Zionist attempts to exploit antisemitism and fails, hard. Again. Scootaloo Nov 2013 #3

You obviously didn't read the entire article. n/t shira Nov 2013 #4

I did, in fact Scootaloo Nov 2013 #6

You didn't respond to anything substantive within it. n/t shira Nov 2013 #7

Nope. Scootaloo Nov 2013 #8

Of course not. You have nothing. n/t shira Nov 2013 #9

Those mushrooms last a while, don't they? Scootaloo Nov 2013 #10

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Great article! n/t shira Nov 2013 #5

I am glad you are so enthusiastic about the expulsion of the Bedouin... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #17

Yes, you see Jewish Israeli Nazi racist apartheidists everywhere u turn. shira Dec 2013 #18

You mentioned apartheid again. At least we agree Nelson Mandela was a great man.... shira Dec 2013 #63

Is it shira .... Israeli Dec 2013 #31

Yeah, there are too many lies in all these anti-Israel articles about al-Hiran Bedouins shira Dec 2013 #37

Twilight Zone.... Israeli Dec 2013 #42

You still believe Shulamit Aloni was honest when she claimed Jew-only roads... shira Dec 2013 #43

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If anything is a libel, its this article... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #16

Are u saying Bedouin cannot buy land in Hiran, to live among the Jews there? shira Dec 2013 #19

actually, thats perfectly true shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #20

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????? pelsar Dec 2013 #26

hardly special status shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #46

unattractive land? this is really one of the dumbest arguments... pelsar Dec 2013 #50

special laws based on genetics... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #52

yes it does....and apparently you agree with the concept..... pelsar Dec 2013 #53

do you disagree with the native americans shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #55

we're not there yet.... pelsar Dec 2013 #56

I'm for recognising the traditional rights of native pastoralists... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #57

how are these natives defined? pelsar Dec 2013 #58

The Israeli definition of a Jew shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #59

I'm not arguing that pelsar Dec 2013 #60

I think that there is a moral difference between... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #65

all nations and nationalistic movements are built on racism.... pelsar Dec 2013 #70

another dig at post zionism pelsar ... Israeli Dec 2013 #72

actually its a dig against hypocrisy.... pelsar Dec 2013 #99

So to summarise your argument... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #76

my argument is that your argument for special favors is racism pelsar Dec 2013 #98

I think that you're confused shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #100

your the one that is pro racism pelsar Dec 2013 #101

so is it racist to take land from Bedouin or to let them keep it? shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #102

accept that is racist either way..... pelsar Dec 2013 #103

i can't resist..... pelsar Dec 2013 #28

Israel is so racist they have affirmative action for Bedouins purchasing land.... shira Dec 2013 #29

Thats because Rahat is a Bedouin ghetto shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #47

You'd argue any town Israel builds for the Bedouin is a ghetto.... shira Dec 2013 #48

They've only ever built the one... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #61

The same could be said of Israeli settlements for religious haredi Jews.... shira Dec 2013 #62

No it fucking couldnt... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #64

There's practically a lie in every post you've made in this thread.... shira Dec 2013 #66

Now you're just getting desperate shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #67

You're slipping. shira Dec 2013 #68

Now we can all see what a bullshit artist you are... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #69

You can't stop with the bullshit and lies, can you? shira Dec 2013 #71

So you admit that I didnt say it... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #73

Your post in #25 of that thread, after all that discussion with Pelsar...... shira Dec 2013 #74

Did I? shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #75

Nothing? shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #77

I don't remember seeing that at the time. Took you awhile but.... shira Dec 2013 #78

I'm inclined to tell you to go fuck yourself... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #79

You spent a lot of time defending a slanderous, racist article that incited hatred..... shira Dec 2013 #80

confused? pelsar Dec 2013 #51

more about the JNF and land particularly in the Negev azurnoir Dec 2013 #22

Bedouin are buying land in nearby Meitar. So you're spreading lies & hate. n/t shira Dec 2013 #23

Meitar is ILA land shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #25

Israeli Bedouin can buy/lease anywhere. The ILA then compensates the JNF for the land. shira Dec 2013 #27

still not accurate the land transferred to JNF is in the Negev azurnoir Dec 2013 #30

The point is that Israel's non-Jews can purchase/lease anywhere.... shira Dec 2013 #34

unless the JNF owns it and in the case of Hiran or umm al Hiran azurnoir Dec 2013 #38

Huh? What does the JNF have to do with it if the ILA mandates that the land is open.... shira Dec 2013 #39

for the 3rd time the link that explains how it works and how JNF gets land in the Negev azurnoir Dec 2013 #40

The Negev settlements will be covered by admissions committees... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #45

So you're certain that if any Bedouin want to buy/lease in Hiran, they won't be able to..... shira Dec 2013 #49

its highly unlikely shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #54