Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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64. kind of,

Reply to glacierbay (Reply #63)

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:05 AM

Sep 2012

I think. Did you?

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Where do you stand? [View all] rDigital Sep 2012 OP

I believe that the original intent of the 2nd Amendment is to arm a militia... Walk away Sep 2012 #1

For the purposes of this poll we'll be using the definition as given in the OP. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #3

And later will you crow that the majority of DU's members are pro your... Walk away Sep 2012 #8

Stare Decisis. rDigital Sep 2012 #11

Gallup has 74% "pro" result. Since 1959.nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #22

There is the "Pass" option. Clames Sep 2012 #4

That horse is dead. You can quite beating it. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #5

LOL pipoman Sep 2012 #6

you believe wrong but don't take my word for it, listen to the folks who wrote the bill off rights trouble.smith Sep 2012 #17

Those militias no longer exist. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #36

And...the reason we needed a well-armed militia yellerpup Sep 2012 #78

nor did they support a empire or MIC gejohnston Sep 2012 #83

The Founder's militia Francis Marion Oct 2012 #175

Nobody will ever take the guns away from American ppl. darkangel218 Sep 2012 #2

so youre part of a well regulated militia? bowens43 Sep 2012 #28

If you own a gun... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #29

I don't need to be, but yes Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #32

Eh, the options could be worded much better. Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #7

It just shows what a sad joke this forum is! Walk away Sep 2012 #9

It could use a good dose of liberal comity. Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #10

The only thing with only one side... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #12

And here you are posting in it. n/t Clames Sep 2012 #15

No, the sad joke was your first response rl6214 Sep 2012 #149

Feel free to make your own poll and word it any way you wish Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #13

Seems like that'd just kinda clutter the board, eh? n/t Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #14

Laurence tribe, promoted militia clause. He has since... Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #23

I don't know. ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #16

For this poll to be valid Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #18

Only if they ignore the Heller decision nt Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #19

Which a whole Hell of a lot of them do. Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #20

There is only one interpretation after Heller: Individual Right. Stare Decisis. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #25

I stand with the Democrats SecularMotion Sep 2012 #21

The Democrats are on the wrong side of history when it comes to gun rights nt Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #49

So you'll be voting for Republicans? SecularMotion Sep 2012 #52

Hmmm. Francis Marion Oct 2012 #176

Nobody calling for complete Citizen disarmament yet? jeepnstein Sep 2012 #24

The cowards who support that option rDigital Sep 2012 #26

what a ridiculous misleading poll bowens43 Sep 2012 #27

Stare decisis. Just like Roe v. Wade. Get used to it, bro. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #31

Like I said, until every one is on the same page WRT "Original Intent" the poll is poorly worded NT Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #40

Understood, but I did include my definition in the OP which is the law of the land right now. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #41

Do you activly support the Brady Campaign or the VPC? oneshooter Oct 2012 #178

I stand with real progressive democrats that believe in the 2A ileus Sep 2012 #30

Your interpretation of original intent Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #33

Just like the vote acknowledging the constitutionality of the ACA. Soooooo regressive. rDigital Sep 2012 #34

you might as well have only one option in your "poll". Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #38

Welcome to the internet, Sweetie. BTW: Do you support complete civilian disarmament? rDigital Sep 2012 #39

Every one of the first 10 Amendments have had limitations imposed by the Supreme Court. upaloopa Sep 2012 #35

Stare decisis. Just like Roe v. Wade. Get used to it, bro. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #37

No like Citizen's United disregarded all previous upaloopa Sep 2012 #43

The only time militias composed of citizens and not soldiers Jenoch Sep 2012 #42

Yeah, that's actually not true Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #44

There was certainly a pretty speech Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #45

I'm hesitant to post my source since it's an NRA publication Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #46

All three of your points Jenoch Sep 2012 #47

Oregon and Maryland both involved non-military volunteers Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #48

And you are wrong again Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #57

Actually, even the state Jenoch Sep 2012 #62

Minnesota has declined to establish a uniformed "state guard." Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #67

IMO a non federalized State Guard is EXACTLY the militia NT Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #69

It's a significant part of the militia, Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #70

My Source was the March 2009 Edition of the NRA magazine "America'S First Freedom" Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #68

The war of 1812 Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #50

Understand where the DU Gun Lobby comes from bongbong Sep 2012 #53

Understand where bongbong comes from...... Simo 1939_1940 Sep 2012 #58

Prove it! bongbong Oct 2012 #172

In Mayor Mike I trust graham4anything Sep 2012 #51

Your posts are getting more and more unhinged glacierbay Sep 2012 #54

if in doubt, call your opponent names...must have touched a sore spot graham4anything Sep 2012 #55

I very obviously know the BoR glacierbay Sep 2012 #56

sorry friend, more and more the gunnies are proving they are NOT liberal democrats graham4anything Sep 2012 #59

One thing gejohnston Sep 2012 #60

Did you understand a thing he wrote? glacierbay Sep 2012 #63

kind of, gejohnston Sep 2012 #64

I could make out a couple of things glacierbay Sep 2012 #66

except he (DK) was not the problem, the mass group of terrorists were the problem graham4anything Sep 2012 #71

your knowledge of the Waco is zero gejohnston Sep 2012 #72

what a joke you are a John Lennon hater.What a cheap shot. graham4anything Sep 2012 #73

given the number of people gejohnston Sep 2012 #74

the federal agent was the first to die, unprovoked graham4anything Sep 2012 #76

Learn your history glacierbay Sep 2012 #80

That's because it was the Govt. doing the killing glacierbay Sep 2012 #77

Wow, you hate the government graham4anything Sep 2012 #82

who said anything about hating the government? gejohnston Sep 2012 #86

You need to stop lying about what I say glacierbay Sep 2012 #88

I am in support of the democrat president, and his administration not your gun lovers NRA superpac1 graham4anything Sep 2012 #91

I didn't say that Bush authorized it. glacierbay Sep 2012 #93

don't read my posts, I thought you said you were through reading them days ago graham4anything Sep 2012 #97

I said I was done reading them in that thread glacierbay Sep 2012 #98

"Jimmy Carter(nobody died on Jimmy Carter's watch, btw)." Jenoch Sep 2012 #134

Abandoning your right to think is a sad thing to do. Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #133

I'll answer glacierbay Sep 2012 #75

you don't want my answer, being that you got my answered censored graham4anything Sep 2012 #79

Got your answer censored? glacierbay Sep 2012 #84

But I can say whatever I want and ask why you want to stockpile guns and bullets graham4anything Sep 2012 #85

therefore, does that mean the NRA will fund Elizabeth Warren gejohnston Sep 2012 #89

"why anyone needs to stockpile guns and bullets(?)..." holdencaufield Sep 2012 #90

One more time glacierbay Sep 2012 #92

"...civilized man needs zero guns and zero bullets" holdencaufield Sep 2012 #87

A civilized man walks away and John Lennon could be here today if the Dakota had proper surveillance graham4anything Sep 2012 #95

Do you REALLY want to go there? holdencaufield Sep 2012 #99

I can't even figure why this guy is here glacierbay Sep 2012 #100

I'm not even sure he knows. holdencaufield Sep 2012 #101

I am Jewish myself just to make sure you know that. graham4anything Sep 2012 #117

Fine, don't ever have a gun, that's your right and choice. glacierbay Sep 2012 #119

but I have a right to keep asking and you have a right to keep not answering. graham4anything Sep 2012 #123

You really think anyone here is afraid of Mike? glacierbay Sep 2012 #125

Mark David Chapman Jenoch Sep 2012 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author oneshooter Sep 2012 #103

I think he's refering to this post in another thread. glacierbay Sep 2012 #111

poster mixed up post and deleted it, therefore his apology accepted, and I will edit this graham4anything Sep 2012 #121

that was NOT my post nor my words, and other poster admited mixing posts up, therefore will edit graham4anything Sep 2012 #118

No it wasn't glacierbay Sep 2012 #120

Glad you admit those vile words were not mine however- graham4anything Sep 2012 #122

You have the right to your opinion glacierbay Sep 2012 #124

You are correct, and I apologise profusly. oneshooter Sep 2012 #126

Thank you. graham4anything Sep 2012 #128

I stand at the bar. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #61

Sounds good to me : ) . nt rDigital Sep 2012 #65

Glock gen 4 darkangel218 Sep 2012 #81

Admittedly -- a well crafted piece of hardware. holdencaufield Sep 2012 #94

I really like my dept. issue side arm glacierbay Sep 2012 #96

One of my personal favorites. oneshooter Sep 2012 #104

Very nice glacierbay Sep 2012 #107

1863 Sharps Sporting Rifle ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #109

1873 Long Range Sporting Rifle. oneshooter Sep 2012 #127

Sing sing electric chair Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #129

Hahahahahaha!!! darkangel218 Sep 2012 #131

I know, right? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #132

Is there Any Way The River Sep 2012 #102

don't subscribe gejohnston Sep 2012 #108

The Trash Group link... rrneck Sep 2012 #135

At the time it was written Savannahmann Sep 2012 #105

It wasn't Wyatt Earp that banned the carrying of guns in Tombstone, AZ. glacierbay Sep 2012 #106

Yet you prove my point. Savannahmann Sep 2012 #110

I didn't scoff at anything glacierbay Sep 2012 #113

Virgil didn't ban guns gejohnston Sep 2012 #114

You are correct glacierbay Sep 2012 #116

Some LEO's only carry one ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #112

LOL nt. glacierbay Sep 2012 #115

Hogwash fightthegoodfightnow Sep 2012 #130

The goverment has gone out of it's way to ensure Riftaxe Sep 2012 #138

Right fightthegoodfightnow Sep 2012 #140

Since the majority of Democrats own firearms Riftaxe Sep 2012 #136

FEAR? fightthegoodfightnow Sep 2012 #139

Ya know glacierbay Sep 2012 #141

Fear... rrneck Sep 2012 #142

Right... fightthegoodfightnow Sep 2012 #148

No, I carry a gun to protect myself from the criminal element. glacierbay Sep 2012 #155

Of course fightthegoodfightnow Sep 2012 #156

No chest pounding here glacierbay Sep 2012 #157

What fear? I am hardly in fear Riftaxe Sep 2012 #144

Fire Arms No Different than Chain Saws? fightthegoodfightnow Sep 2012 #147

No they don't. Not even close. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #143

"not even close"? its only 6 percent difference! darkangel218 Sep 2012 #145

This must be gunz math. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #146

So i missunderstood your post, big deal! darkangel218 Sep 2012 #150

When deep in a hole the gunz peeples dig deeper. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #151

i thought was 41. still , no big difference! darkangel218 Sep 2012 #152

Keep digging, you haven't reached rock bottom yet. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #153

Shhh! have a beer! :) darkangel218 Sep 2012 #154

However ruffburr Sep 2012 #158

How many weapons ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #160

I'd respond to the poll if you offered serious choices tech3149 Sep 2012 #159

"The world today is nothing like world where the constitution was written..." holdencaufield Oct 2012 #161

well, yes, the main difference is "All men are created equal" has changed graham4anything Oct 2012 #162

I do believe ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #163

okay, point taken, however graham4anything Oct 2012 #164

Expanding bullets were invented in the 1870s to hunt African big game hack89 Oct 2012 #165

ok, so why are they even allowed to be sold then? graham4anything Oct 2012 #167

Public safety, funny enough hack89 Oct 2012 #168

In my duty sidearm glacierbay Oct 2012 #171

Would you wish to ban this rifle? oneshooter Oct 2012 #174

They are commonly called Dum-Dum Bullets... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #169

basically, yeah gejohnston Oct 2012 #166

New weapons are produced every year ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #170

The definition of rights and freedom have changed drastically n/t tech3149 Oct 2012 #173

i don't know anyone veganlush Oct 2012 #177