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In the discussion thread: What makes the Mormons "baptizing" dead people worse than baptizing babies? [View all]

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 10:37 PM

jberryhill (29,884 posts)

52. Okay, so....

You are down with the Evangelicals believing that Jews burn in hell forever and not doing anything about it, but not okay with Mormons believing that people get a do-over in the Mormon afterlife.

That strikes me as odd, but then so do most religious ideas.

Oh, and nobody is supposed to be offended that, in this life, Jews are God's specially chosen people - meaning, everyone else is not.

That's the way religions are.

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What makes the Mormons "baptizing" dead people worse than baptizing babies? [View all]	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	OP
You really don't see the difference?	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#1
Precisely	Sherman A1	Feb 2012	#15
Excellent point.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#25
The Catholic Church holds that baptism is like branding that you can't undo	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	#26
That is not true, and even if it were, it isn't the same.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#39
And most other Christians believe....	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#33
"Converting" dead Jews is way more disrespectful.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#37
They aren't "converting" them	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#41
You seem to think Jews are supposed to believe their religion is wrong.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#49
Just about every danged religion is supposed to believe other religions are wrong	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#51
No, you don't seem to get the point.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#55
"You seem to think it is OK to offend Jews"	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#60
As I suspected.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#61
It's okay	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#62
And I will pray for you to create less arrogant posts.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#63
In that case the post-mortem conversion is ineffective.	Deep13	Feb 2012	#67
Who said anything about the effectiveness? The question was about offensiveness.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#69
Well, the question is if there is a reason to be offended.	Deep13	Feb 2012	#73
This message was self-deleted by its author	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#74
If people wanted to be baptized Mormon, they would have done it themselves. n/t	Firebrand Gary	Feb 2012	#2
As I understand it, the practice started for the 'benefit' of those who never had the opportunity.	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#7
The FSM informs me that all baptized Mormons go straight into the Great Cauldron.	Warren Stupidity	Feb 2012	#19
But then they died and found out that Mormonism was the correct religion	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#34
Your last point was a point I made last week.	MrSlayer	Feb 2012	#3
How is it "arrogant" for a religion to think they know the truth	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#32
I don't think it is any more arrogant than any religion that says they have	cbayer	Feb 2012	#36
How is it not?	MrSlayer	Feb 2012	#45
Okay, so....	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#52
I'm not down with any of it.	MrSlayer	Feb 2012	#56
Someone spoke FOR you. Like it or not, the parents who kept you	MADem	Feb 2012	#4
Better question is how it's worse than circumcising an infant.	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#5
An even better question is why you would respond with a red herring and strawman?	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#9
Not a red herring.	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#11
Nope. Red herring.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#12
You must have a very narrow view of the issue.	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#42
You are so burdened with logical fallacies as to miss the point.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#50
I hate to break it to you...	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#57
Hate to break it to you....	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#59
I never singled out Jews, and readily admitted that non-Jews circumcise.	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#66
Playing the victim? Whatever.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#68
If you have a factual response to what I've posted, by all means let's have it.	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#70
Red herring distraction is over. I am no longer amused by your hateful propaganda.	Behind the Aegis	Feb 2012	#71
I'm sorry you regard basic biology as "hateful propaganda."	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#72
Especially if done while breastfeeding in public at Olive Garden...	Silent3	Feb 2012	#20
Worse thing about it is it's done without the permission of the participants.	Kurmudgeon	Feb 2012	#6
Which is different from infant baptism, how?	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#8
Because parents/legal guardians make all decisions for an infant and/or child.	Kurmudgeon	Feb 2012	#16
The Catholic view that their baptism gives them control for life still makes it offensive to me	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	#28
Swing and a miss.	laconicsax	Feb 2012	#44
So is Voodoo	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#35
There is no participant.	Igel	Feb 2012	#38
There is a long and bloody history of forced baptism/conversion for Jews.	TheWraith	Feb 2012	#10
"This has happened probably hundreds of times?"	Pab Sungenis	Feb 2012	#22
As one person said, "We were	Ilsa	Feb 2012	#13
They're both unethical, IMO	Warpy	Feb 2012	#14
no difference. it's a silly , ridiculous piece of nonsense.	bowens43	Feb 2012	#17
were you baptized without consent of the family?	unblock	Feb 2012	#18
A better question might be:...	MarkCharles	Feb 2012	#21
Maybe almost always, but not ALWAYS	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	#24
And there are denominations that don't baptize until you are a teen (I was raised in one).	cbayer	Feb 2012	#27
Yep, that's the church I go to now	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	#47
Good for you!	jeepnstein	Feb 2012	#29
Yep I came to that understanding as well	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	#48
So you are OK with them fucking with your soul?	WingDinger	Feb 2012	#23
Got no soul.	Igel	Feb 2012	#40
That last sentence is a winner	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#53
It shows a complete lack of respect for other's beliefs and choices.	ChadwickHenryWard	Feb 2012	#30
Yes, well, God doesn't respect different religions either	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#43
Some people think that's an unusual criticism.	ChadwickHenryWard	Feb 2012	#64
Because they don't just baptize the dead -- after the baptism, the person is entered into the LDS	iris27	Feb 2012	#31
LDS don't baptize babies	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	#46
Ok, I didn't know they don't do infant baptism.	iris27	Feb 2012	#54
The database is supposed to be private though	ButterflyBlood	Feb 2012	#65
In denominations that baptize infants, the	Lydia Leftcoast	Feb 2012	#58
Nothing other than the thickness of one's skin.	Nihil	Feb 2012	#75
Its like claiming an African American ancestor is not African American anymore, but White	Vehl	Feb 2012	#76

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