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In reply to the discussion: It would be wrong to expect atheists or antitheists to answer for a murderer who used those labels. [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)99. I view it just like the NRA analogy.
I'm a gun owner. I have a selfish interest in some of the things the NRA provides. It provides training for safety, marksmanship, and hunting. It insures certain gun ranges, so to be a member of said ranges, you must be a member of the NRA. Etc.
However, the political wing of the NRA fully poisons the well, so I refuse to become a member. I forego the benefits I might otherwise glean from it. I find other ways to accomplish what I need, because I WILL NOT have one penny of my money going to a wholly owned subsidiary of the RNC.
"Does Christianity necessarily lead to rejection of evolution just as it leads to violence because you can't have Jesus without a literal Adam and Eve?"
I've found some Christians are capable of compartmentalizing these ideas and holding them simultaneously true. Ken Miller, of the Dover/Kitzmiller trial was an amazing voice for reason and science. He's also a Roman Catholic. That seems a deeply conflicting position to me, but he seems to make it work. (I do not know if he's a tithing member of the church, if he is, that's disappointing because he's directly funding non-science counter to his own interests if he is.)
I'm not actually using a literalist interpretation, by the way. I don't think noah's flood happened at all, even if he existed (probably not). I don't think the exodus happened. But the link between the OT and the NT is like foundation/house.
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It would be wrong to expect atheists or antitheists to answer for a murderer who used those labels. [View all]
Htom Sirveaux
Feb 2015
OP
Clearly some people are very uncomfortable with this subject and they should not be.
hrmjustin
Feb 2015
#1
Simplistic, tunnel vision misses a larger picture. Equating theists with the KKK is a cheap shot.
pinto
Feb 2015
#15
I feel a murderer should be held personably responsible if convicted in a court of law.
pinto
Feb 2015
#6
Where are the ancient atheist texts containing exhortations to violence, part and parcel with
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2015
#7
I'm glad you agree, but then I don't see where I've committed a false equivalency.
Htom Sirveaux
Feb 2015
#13
Because there's no connection between atheism and any other ideology, violent or not.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2015
#26
What were the websites general message? end all religion by force or argument?
hrmjustin
Feb 2015
#31
You may be right, but, that sort of speculation and the undoubtable 24x7
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2015
#63
Is it prejudice when the guy who these three religions claim as their founder was a monster?
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2015
#25
I understand that atheism is not functionally equivalent to an entire religion.
Htom Sirveaux
Feb 2015
#30
While I, in general, agree that individuals are not responsible for the actions of others...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2015
#32
I don't like interpretations of religious texts that justify violence either.
Htom Sirveaux
Feb 2015
#35
Its not so much interpretation as it is what you decide to selectively focus on...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2015
#46
Feel free to reinterpolate Deut. 7.1-2; 20.16-18 into something other than god-mandated violence.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2015
#58
I will. My tolerance level for the personal stuff is very low after the past 24 hours.
hrmjustin
Feb 2015
#91
Would it be wrong to expect LGBT activist to answer for a murderer who advocated for
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2015
#80