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Lorien

(31,935 posts)
24. Vindictiveness? Does someone really have their head that deeply in the sand??
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

No, as we keep saying: IT"S ABOUT THE ISSUES! Hillary has done it to herself bt behaving like a right wing authoritarian on such issues as:

Iraq
TPP
KXL
Pro arctic drilling
Pro for Profit Prisons
Pro Monsanto
Bankruptcy bill
Voting for a border fence
Saying child migrants should be sent home
Using her position as SoS to push fracking on the rest of the world
Wall Street donations
Six digit speaking fees
Taking money from weapons deals
Honduras
Comments about nuking Iran
Voted to raise credit card interest rates
NAFTA
DOMA
DADT
Opposing gay marriage in New York State
Brownbeck Amendments
Glass-Steagall
No living wage
No free college
No universal health care (ACA coverage gap....ACA will never provide UHC)
No medical Marijuana
Supports mandatory sentencing
Says that she's "proud of" the way Walmart does business
Libya
Yemen
Syria
Egypt
United States-Chile Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
United States-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
Free trade - Oman agreement
Voted FOR Gitmo. --- Hillary voted against the Byrd ammendment and against a large majority of democrats to reduce Guatanamo funding by $36,000,000. She joined the republican majority against the majority of democrats in supporting Guantanamo.
Pro death penalty
Pro cluster bombing
and so much more!!

Does anyone really think that Bernie's campaign is about a cranky old Brooklyn born Jew? He's honest, he's consistent, he unites people to get good things done, and he's on the correct side of the issues. The problems with Hillary are too numerous to count (and none of them are in any way gender based). I honestly don't believe that she could ever win a general election because of them. Bottom line: it's the DNC's duty to back a left of center candidate to represent us. It's not the voter's duty to change their positions of the issues and bend to the will of the DNC just to elect someone who is "less awful" than the opposition.



Hillary wants to attack Iran: http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran/5460484

Bernie has a MUCH better record of accomplishments as Senator than Hillary does: https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/fact-bernie-sanders-got-more-done-in-the-senate-than-hillary-clinton/

Hillary pushed Fracking on the rest of the planet: http://www.motherjones.com/.../hillary-clinton-fracking...

Hillary and childhood poverty: http://www.salon.com/.../the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton.../

What Hillary calls "feminism" : https://www.jacobinmag.com/.../hillary-clinton-womens.../

Hillary open to raising the retirement age and reducing SS benefits: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/hillary-clinton-indicates-she-is-open-to-raising-the-retirement-age.html

How women workers faired at Walmart when Hillary was on it's board:



Hillary takes millions in campaign cash from her "enemies": http://www.usnews.com/.../hillary-takes-millions-in...

Economy would boom under Sanders: http://money.cnn.com/.../news/economy/sanders-income-jobs/

Bernie vows to stop the toxic TPP (which Hillary praised as "the gold standard of trade deals): http://ecowatch.com/2015/10/05/sanders-stop-tpp-deal/

Hillary's legacy of pushing the party to the right: http://www.truth-out.org/.../33869-hillary-clinton-s...

Chomsky: Democrats are now moderate Republicans: http://trofire.com/.../noam-chomsky-dems-are-now.../

The political compass: http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2016

Bernie rejects big fundraising events: http://www.bloomberg.com/.../bernie-sanders-hates-money...

Elizabeth Warren on Hillary Clinton: https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/videos/986305904741661/
The customer is always..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
Uh, more like stupid trashing of his supporters by Clinton cali Feb 2016 #2
I have one word. Pumas. jillan Feb 2016 #3
Business 101, don't blame the customer for not buying your shitty product. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #4
That's a keeper Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #36
Let's review Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #5
"and without regard to "....sadly... the policy positions and effectiveness of the candidates Bill USA Feb 2016 #19
Good lord...this is reaching Way out in Left Field. Ignorant voters...to be sure. libdem4life Feb 2016 #25
It's all about the policies Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #26
You look at independents and see ignorant suckers Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #41
Then maybe her surrogates and supporters should stop insulting them? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #6
Such a simple concept, yet they just can't seem to grasp it. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #15
And if Hillary wins, and Kasich wins, Independents may very likely swing to Kasich Schema Thing Feb 2016 #7
I'd be there but I suspect the young crowd might stay home. BlueJazz Feb 2016 #8
They say that every four years... anotherproletariat Feb 2016 #9
So ask for and earn the vote Depaysement Feb 2016 #10
Looks like from the responses your post didn't turn out the way you hoped. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #11
Very bad form farleftlib Feb 2016 #17
Many wont be there. bunnies Feb 2016 #12
PUMAs Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #14
If she manages to get the nomination she will not get my vote, has nothing to do with Bernie bowens43 Feb 2016 #16
What part of "many other backers are independents" did you miss? Arazi Feb 2016 #18
I won't be there for Hillary but will be there to vote AGAINST the GOP. Hillary is terrible. nt Logical Feb 2016 #20
It's raining neoliberal tears Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #21
The lovely thought expressed at the end of this post is a huge part of the reason. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #22
"It doesn't take a genius to tell the difference between chicken shit, and chicken salad." VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #23
Vindictiveness? Does someone really have their head that deeply in the sand?? Lorien Feb 2016 #24
That is a well researched post. I'm impressed...a good tally of reasons I'm for Bernie... libdem4life Feb 2016 #28
Feel free to share and add to it! Lorien Feb 2016 #40
xcellant post questionseverything Feb 2016 #30
This is absolutely right! You have put your finger right on the issues that matter. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2016 #35
any dem who cares about the party will DesertFlower Feb 2016 #27
Then it might serve the more corporate candidate to learn some humility...or at least libdem4life Feb 2016 #34
My dear. Bernie is WINNING. Fearless Feb 2016 #29
I registered today as a Democrat Android3.14 Feb 2016 #31
No Bill Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #32
A study in vindictiveness: ornotna Feb 2016 #33
Well trying to rain on Bernie's parade tonight farleftlib Feb 2016 #38
Why don't you go fund yourself Politicalboi Feb 2016 #37
And your post was not childish? LOL, not a deep thinker I guess. nt Logical Feb 2016 #39
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