2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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23. It's a much better system and the only reason the Dems don't get behind it is....

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 05:07 PM

Mar 2016

cowardice and corruption.if the current crop of Democrat "leaders" had been in place in the 1960's, we'd never have anything resembling Medicare.

Bernie should not be among the voices in the wilderness in DC on this. It ought to have been the defaul position of all democrats long ago.

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So Hillary supporters want us to believe she led on health care while Bernie was silent? Ahem: [View all] beam me up scottie Mar 2016 OP

knr snagglepuss Mar 2016 #1

The Internet is proving to be a thorn NWCorona Mar 2016 #2

The truth has a strong pro-Bernie bias. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #5

I've read many times over the years, how chemicals put in our water supply Cavallo Mar 2016 #156

Curse you, Al Gore! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #13

Too funny! NWCorona Mar 2016 #18

Which is probably why 90% of the millennials are with Bernie. They know the truth. reformist2 Mar 2016 #15

Yup NWCorona Mar 2016 #16

That is a really good point. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #43

Old timers know too. We've heard it all. Time to turn the tide. Paper Roses Mar 2016 #68

It is like her kryptonite GummyBearz Mar 2016 #104

One distortion of the facts after another UglyGreed Mar 2016 #3

By now she knows she will be fact checked passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #42

It is worse than that. She has written off being seen as having integrity. salib Mar 2016 #109

He says he' s fighting for the Canadian system in Vermont. ucrdem Mar 2016 #4

So we don't need to do better? daleanime Mar 2016 #6

Hillary 2016: Because we don't deserve better! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #8

False equivalence. Obama didn't get Obamacare passed when he was a Senator. n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #47

It's a much better system and the only reason the Dems don't get behind it is.... Armstead Mar 2016 #23

the only reason anyone doesn't get behind it is passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #48

Great, so why can't he get it done in Vermont, and what makes you think he could pass it nationally? ucrdem Mar 2016 #59

Because Bernie is a US SENATOR, that's why he introduced legislation in the US Senate. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #63

I forgot that Bernie is a state Senator, not a Federal one. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #66

Then why did he say he was fighting for the Canadian system in Vermont? ucrdem Mar 2016 #67

Your questioned was answered eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #81

That would be a refreshing surprise. nt ucrdem Mar 2016 #150

So why hasn't the Hilary exceeded Bernie then? Where are her glorious Healthcare accomplishments? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #78

Here they are: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #82

She is very good at that isn't she? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #88

Indeed. She excel$ at it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #89

Bernie got the bill to stipulate a state could choose to go single payer. glowing Mar 2016 #154

Am I imagining things? I swear this has happened before kcr Mar 2016 #7

I think so, then a photo surfaced where she thanked him for supporting universal health care. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #10

Right, I thought so kcr Mar 2016 #12

This one is making the rounds in my facebook world! m-lekktor Mar 2016 #19

They are pissed off because he wants everyone to have healthcare, while she wants everyone to pay Doctor_J Mar 2016 #11

K&R me b zola Mar 2016 #14

Hey you! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #21

She just can't stop lying!nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #17

And the REASON the 1% doesn't want the rest of us to have good healthcare pdsimdars Mar 2016 #20

Well in all fairness he is just standing behind her quietly giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #22

Did you watch the video? He LED on the issue for decades. Is the new meme, Bernie is too quiet? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #24

I was just making an observation. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #27

you should. Your comment is incorrect roguevalley Mar 2016 #39

It's a meme now that Bernie was there? Hydra Mar 2016 #40

Holy fuck, not my candidate. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #74

Ok, I'll go with it Hydra Mar 2016 #79

Bc I'm a huge smartass & somewhat bored with these primaries. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #80

I have seen you try to be fair at times but this isn't one of them. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #92

I really can't keep track of all the allegations that float around this place giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #98

With all the lies coming out of Hill's mouth, I have to admit that BeanMusical Mar 2016 #103

La la la lala Wilms Mar 2016 #57

Are you really this lame? TM99 Mar 2016 #25

two lies in two days? greymouse Mar 2016 #30

Ooohh you called me lame. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #31

Well since you didn't answer the question TM99 Mar 2016 #34

Generally when someone leads with an insult giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #37

Well your initial TM99 Mar 2016 #41

By making a literal observation of the picture in the OP? giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #51

Please, don't feign ignorance or naivete. TM99 Mar 2016 #60

Many seem to resort UglyGreed Mar 2016 #84

It is just another form of bullying. TM99 Mar 2016 #85

True UglyGreed Mar 2016 #87

I could never tolerate a bully when I was TM99 Mar 2016 #93

I'm with you UglyGreed Mar 2016 #95

THis is all a bit over the top ... poster said it was a sarcastic joke made out of boredom ... brett_jv Mar 2016 #157

Yeah, sarcastic joke made out of boredom TM99 Mar 2016 #158

Alerted and left 1-6 ......... Logical Mar 2016 #38

The result of this lame alert should have been 0-7 to leave it. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #70

She was the First Lady - he was a congressman. It's called PROTOCOL! lol!! jillan Mar 2016 #65

"That's the problem with revising history after the advent of video." restorefreedom Mar 2016 #26

I'm waiting for someone to say it was "edited". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #29

Photoshop! photoshop! restorefreedom Mar 2016 #32

It's Bruce Rappaport in that video!!1! BeanMusical Mar 2016 #72

Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Mar 2016 #28

Hillary is running a perfect 1980 campaign in 2016 peacebird Mar 2016 #33

a few years after 1980, in fact--four, by the looks of it MisterP Mar 2016 #77

That's it, in a nutshell. /nt Marr Mar 2016 #121

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2016 #35

K&R. think Mar 2016 #36

That video with Sanders arguing for health-care was from 1993. Did Clinton miss that? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #44

She must have missed the entire year: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #46

Bernie could say he doesn't know where SHE was .. polly7 Mar 2016 #49

He should ask where she went after her lark failed. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #53

He did, and she didn't seem to give much of a rat's ass - it's 'totally un-doable' now. polly7 Mar 2016 #54

By tomorrow she may hold a position better than Medicare for all and not only is it Doable Dragonfli Mar 2016 #136

Bernie was ahead of his Time in so many ways. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #45

She is on an amazing streak. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #50

It's like her campaign forgot that Google exists! IllinoisLabour Mar 2016 #52

He wasn't silent kennetha Mar 2016 #55

That was the real fight, not posing for photo ops as first lady then giving up after she failed. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #58

Right even when there is a better path forward kennetha Mar 2016 #61

Better path forward? MILLIONS STILL DON'T HAVE HEALTH CARE. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #62

Keep telling yourself that kennetha Mar 2016 #64

Facts suck for Hillary and her supporters, don't they? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #69

she told truth kennetha Mar 2016 #71

The truth? You mean how she $old us out for MILLIONS from the for-profit health care industry? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #73

They can't handle the truth! BeanMusical Mar 2016 #96

Talking Points noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #86

truth hurts doesn't it? kennetha Mar 2016 #90

truth? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #99

+1000 BeanMusical Mar 2016 #105

Nope noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #100

Wouldn't know... Hillary and her staunch supporters don't give us the truth. n/t cui bono Mar 2016 #130

No, the truth feels good to those of us who support Bernie... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #134

Thank you. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #135

k&r krawhitham Mar 2016 #56

She can't be trusted on anything she says. SoapBox Mar 2016 #75

Every time I see clinton's campaign, one thing comes to mind. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #76

Lol! BeanMusical Mar 2016 #106

I am so tired of the same old propaganda and wrong thinking. I want Bernie!!!! highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #83

you can have him all to yourself. kennetha Mar 2016 #91

We don't have to share our candidate with the trillion dollar for-profit health care industry. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #94

Well, not to myself. There are a whole lot of others who agree. Have you seen this video? highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #111

This is one of those days when Hillary makes the thought of holding my nose and voting her difficult Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #97

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #101

Why thank you! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #110

Are we sure that's Bernie in the bottom pic? Dr. Strange Mar 2016 #102

Hard to choose which Hillary Hate remark to respond to--- maddiemom Mar 2016 #107

Wait, wut? The truth is now "Hillary Hate"? And you would actually support Trump? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #108

Before Cruz or Rubio? Hell Yes! maddiemom Mar 2016 #144

How is this thread hating on Hillary? Does the truth have an anti-Hillary bias? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #146

Good for you! maddiemom Mar 2016 #152

NOT EVER as to voting for Trump ( not a primary option for me in PA). maddiemom Mar 2016 #147

Hillary is the one lying about Bernie. How is calling her out on her lies hating on Hillary? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #114

I've been voting since 1968, Independent, then Democrat, necessary to have a voice in PA primaries. maddiemom Mar 2016 #145

You would actually support Trump before say Jill Stein? That says a lot. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #115

Says "get real." maddiemom Mar 2016 #143

Sanders was pushing his own plan, not supporting Clinton. Had he, maybe Hoyt Mar 2016 #112

What legislation was that? Link? And why did she thank him then? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #113

Read up on it, he never supported her plan. He was pushing single payer Hoyt Mar 2016 #116

No, you made the claim so you need to back it up. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #117

He was pushing his single payer plan, which had no chance then. Hoyt Mar 2016 #118

What plan did he have in 1993? You need to cite actual evidence. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #119

Can you read? Hoyt Mar 2016 #120

Not only did I read it twice I just cited info you conveniently left out. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #122

Stop info citing you, you, you commie lover!!!! Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #148

She really needs to stop lying, and fire David Brock. Marr Mar 2016 #123

Soooo... one_voice Mar 2016 #124

What on earth are you going on about? Bernie hasn't said a word about her lies. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #125

Um, before you start that with me.. one_voice Mar 2016 #126

I don't need to look up your history, you just blamed Bernie, remember? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #127

And she wants credit.. I blamed both... one_voice Mar 2016 #131

Why did you blame Bernie at all when he didn't do what you accused him of? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #133

Why is it every time I read one of your posts, I keep hearing . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #151

Hillary's sniper fire and healthcare Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #128

Don't forget crediting Nancy Reagan for her work combating AIDS. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #129

Add the auto bailout wowzer. sarge43 Mar 2016 #149

Wow, WTH is she thinking!? blackspade Mar 2016 #132

She forgot that Bernie's supporters know how to use the Google. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #137

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #138

You're welcome, Uncle Joe! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #139

Don't Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #140

I won't! I'm just picking my battles. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #141

K&R! neverforget Mar 2016 #142

She knew where he was then...even wrote him a note about it. . . Triana Mar 2016 #153

Excellent video of Bernie. Cavallo Mar 2016 #155