2016 Postmortem

Voice for Peace

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144. Probably most of them are in old age homes.

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Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:31 PM

Apr 2016

Or gone to meet their maker.
"It's a new world,.Golda!"

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Bernie campaign hits a new low. Attacking Hillary by invoking the name [View all] pnwmom Apr 2016 OP

and look who brought it to DU. B Calm Apr 2016 #1

Right. We shouldn't bring anything to DU that might spoil Bernie-so-pure's image. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #6

How about her husband joking about Sanders supporters wanting to shoot people Armstead Apr 2016 #10

What individual's feelings were hurt by that? Lewinsky is a person who hurt Hillary pnwmom Apr 2016 #18

if Bill jokes about me wanting to shoot people then I am not amused Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #19

He didn't. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #20

The Hell He Didn't Armstead Apr 2016 #24

HRC blind loyalty. Leslie Stahl on Maher said "Clinton...biggest hawk" of all candidates inc. GOP snowy owl Apr 2016 #153

My feelings were hurt....Well, not really but I was highly offended on many levels Armstead Apr 2016 #21

+10 appalachiablue Apr 2016 #86

You think Monaca wasn't a victim? passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #30

Sexual harassment? ML snapper her thong at President Clinton and pursued him!! SFnomad Apr 2016 #40

Excuse me, but this is incredibly sexist and ignorant CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #56

Nice to see you rewriting history like a Republican n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #59

Nice to see you sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #63

To be calling what happened between BC and ML "sexual harassment" is certainly Republican way of SFnomad Apr 2016 #68

Imbalance of power. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #76

She pursued him, multiple times - not sexual harassment n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #81

And someone supposedly smart enough to be POTUS couldn't deal? nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #85

He should have ... he didn't. That was his fault. That doesn't make it sexual harassment. n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #89

Ooooookaaaaaaay. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #96

It was sexual harassment CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #78

^THIS^ SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #87

If something happens between a teacher and a student (and the student pursued) that is not sexual SFnomad Apr 2016 #91

Baloney. treestar Apr 2016 #139

that term does not always mean someone was harrassed passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #123

The longer this goes on, the more the BS cheerleaders sound like Republicans SFnomad Apr 2016 #126

I was sexually abused and manipulated by someone I adored passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #129

Monica was NOT sexually abused or manipulated, jesus christ SFnomad Apr 2016 #132

I'm sorry, but it's obvious you know nothing about sexual abuse/harrassment passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #134

FFS, I have done some reading up on it ... you are wrong SFnomad Apr 2016 #135

I said it might not be harrassment, but that doesn't mean it's not wrong passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #148

No, she was bullied for "ruining the reputation" of Bill beedle Apr 2016 #158

So younger against the many marriages out there with such treestar Apr 2016 #140

Nice to see you rewriting history like a Hillary fan passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #72

No, the law is not ... you people make crap up all the time n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #93

Thank you. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #77

'Bill Clinton behaved like a predator' passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #122

You are wrong... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #61

+1 i cant believe people are defending his behavior... even though he didn't break the law, it was dionysus Apr 2016 #174

Or he could have just told the truth! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #180

i can't believe the hyperbole. "bernie has sunk to new lows.." the clintons are professional liars. dionysus Apr 2016 #188

Oh dear god. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #82

The moral of the story beedle Apr 2016 #168

Thank you that was perfect!! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #60

She wasn't Hillary's victim. SHE hurt Hillary, not the other way around. pnwmom Apr 2016 #64

No, Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #124

Yep. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #73

She was old enough to know better. Clintons and victims. Tiring. snowy owl Apr 2016 #115

just how ignorant are you? Buzz cook Apr 2016 #117

That would be Bill Clinton whose sexual exploits were the problem. JimDandy Apr 2016 #32

Lewinsky did not hurt Hillary - BILL DID! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #57

Monica knew he was married and chose to get involved with him anyway. pnwmom Apr 2016 #143

And your point? Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #172

Hillary had NOTHING to do with it and Dems shouldn't be invoking Monica's name to attack Hillary. pnwmom Apr 2016 #173

right! Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #120

Ahh I see your confusion beedle Apr 2016 #164

Her had her feelings hurt? Poor, poor Hillary. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #128

But you defend Bill? It was that girl monica? Poor hill! Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #142

They can't use or stick to the issues that concern this country, so... -none Apr 2016 #97

Okay then. Time to dust off the videos starring Bernie and his Communist and Marxist friends. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #176

+1. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #189

nothing to see here insightdeluxe Apr 2016 #2

Bill brought the country to a new low whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #3

Using Lewinsky's name to attack Bill's WIFE is a very low blow for Bernie-so-pure to approve of. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #4

Uh, TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #8

Except, this has absolutely nothing to do with bill and only to do with Bullying. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #88

This is the look of losing Iliyah Apr 2016 #5

Yep. Sad way to exit. Hoyt Apr 2016 #7

Final throes. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #17

Exactly. A loser. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #83

Did I just read that an "employer - subordinate sex act" being described as "former sex partner"? TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #9

Lewinsky even today insists that she approached him and it was completely consensual. pnwmom Apr 2016 #11

Regardless of what she says, it's so wrong that many states now have laws against it. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #12

The point is the Bernie campaign is using Lewinsky to attack Hillary. That's despicable. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #14

That's valid, to a degree. But, one of WJC's contributions to society are these new HR policies. nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #15

The point is that they are using her as an example of bullying, not of sexual harrassment. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #33

Consensual sex is not illegal (except perhaps in the military) radical noodle Apr 2016 #48

But it's not consensual when someone holds a position of power over another. (Illegal wrong word) TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #70

I don't disagree with that but radical noodle Apr 2016 #99

Woman or man: Power can be seductive, apply tacit pressure which can affect decision making. nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #101

Agreed... but it's their decision to make if they're adults unless being coerced radical noodle Apr 2016 #104

Coercion is a subjective term. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #106

I'm going to try to explain why it is wrong passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #127

Did you just compare a 12 and 13 year old's ability to consent to a 22 year old's? stevenleser Apr 2016 #146

I'm not comparing ages. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #149

You may not intend to but as soon as you list the ages it's the dominating factor. It's not remotely stevenleser Apr 2016 #150

Your stepfather sounds like an ass radical noodle Apr 2016 #152

Thank you. I survived. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #154

BTW, I am very sorry for what you experienced and I hope your stepfather ended up in prison stevenleser Apr 2016 #160

He never went to prison, but he did die fairly young passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #165

Yes, since Lewinsky did the approaching then perhaps she is guilty Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #161

Just because it's consensual does not mean it wasn't innapropriate. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #31

Did you post on the wrong post? TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #41

Okay - I think you are the wisest person here!!! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #69

This has NOTHING to do with Hillary. She had no obligation to champion the woman pnwmom Apr 2016 #119

Yes, no feminist pedestal for Hillary on this. Disgusting that she never even denounced Bill JimDandy Apr 2016 #39

Not the first or LAST venture 840high Apr 2016 #50

Did I just read another attempt to derail the discussion? Yup.nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #145

If so, you possess limited critical thinking skills. Opinions, yes. Skills, questionable. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #157

Nope. I know a derail when I see it. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #159

Yep, you're practicing in the art right now. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #162

Nope, Pointing out a derail is not derailing. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #163

Classic obfuscation, that's all. A specialty of yours. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #166

If you think so, you don't know what obfuscation means. My point is very straightfoward. stevenleser Apr 2016 #167

In your mind it does. That's all that matters. This is going nowhere since you must win. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #169

Lewinsky has been a huge anti-bullying advocate. morningfog Apr 2016 #13

Naming Lewinsky in that intro was only done to hurt Hillary. Sanders pnwmom Apr 2016 #16

So your answer to my questions is "no." morningfog Apr 2016 #29

That is just bullshit. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #35

Yes. Manufactured poutrage is bullshit. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #42

Yes, I'm getting to know this MO all too often passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #43

"Invoking the name" - is she a demon? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #22

Ha ha ha! You are SO GOOD! Bonobo Apr 2016 #27

No kidding, they routinely trot out that essay vintx Apr 2016 #113

Monica Lewinsky has inserted herself into the campaign riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #23

I wish this beautiful woman 840high Apr 2016 #51

Rosario Dawson is the one dragging Monica into this campaign and using her as a weapon pnwmom Apr 2016 #55

Juanita Broadrrick puts paid to that lie riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #62

Juanita is a Republican tool. I don't believe anything she says. Monica is a more honest person. pnwmom Apr 2016 #67

Then you've never watched her interviews. She's 100% credible riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #74

She swore under penalty of perjury that he didn't rape her. Then, years later, pnwmom Apr 2016 #79

You obviously didn't watch her. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #90

She gave her testimony under oath. That's the testimony I believe, pnwmom Apr 2016 #116

Do you have a link? creeksneakers2 Apr 2016 #121

Do you also put blame on children who have been sexually abused passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #133

Monica wasn't a child. She was a 22 year old college graduate when it began pnwmom Apr 2016 #136

Calling a victim a "narcissistic loony" is not a nice thing. Bonobo Apr 2016 #25

One might even call it sexist. nt dflprincess Apr 2016 #38

She was not a victim Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #46

OMG, she was just 22 years old and he was her boss and the President of the US. Bonobo Apr 2016 #47

^THIS^ SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #92

Should the age of majority be raised? treestar Apr 2016 #138

Now you kind of know how Bernie Sanders supporters feel Seeinghope Apr 2016 #58

yeah they were just two adults, equal in power relations and age, having an affair! m-lekktor Apr 2016 #75

Only in a parallel universe can the cuckquean not be the wronged and innocent party. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #26

Monical Lewinsky is a part of the historical record, and Hillary's husband has been out there on the Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #34

The *what*??? nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #94

It's the female version of a cuckold. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #95

Ummmnkay.... nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #98

"cuck" hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #131

They are not talking about Bill, but instead Monica's new campaign against bullying. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #28

fact is, Bill did something extremely stupid Baobab Apr 2016 #36

Not as high as we will pay if you Bernie groupies Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #45

The dangerous ground starts 840high Apr 2016 #53

And Hillary is? Baobab Apr 2016 #105

You're pro-bullying? That figures. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #37

I suppose Bernie smiled and nodded Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #44

A form of bullying....give me a fucking break....this is politics at a VERY high level.... Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #49

Sanders is not going to be the nominee Gothmog Apr 2016 #52

well that is about a stupid as when we were told that women who don't vote for women are all going hollysmom Apr 2016 #54

Sanders has lost all control of his camp. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #65

i wouldn't really consider Rosario Dawson as Bernie's official Campaign . JI7 Apr 2016 #66

I fail to see the problem. Monica is right, bullying is bad. This was used in correct context. Unicorn Apr 2016 #71

Sanders has nothing to gain but let people see the contemptable man he is. Clinton of course will seabeyond Apr 2016 #80

And THAT underscores how YOU see them apparently. Bonobo Apr 2016 #100

84 has nothing to do with Sanders being an ass using it as a weapon against Hillary. I am certinaly seabeyond Apr 2016 #107

Sounds like someone needs to straighten you out. Bonobo Apr 2016 #108

Maybe you ought to re read my two posts instead of making shit up. seabeyond Apr 2016 #110

Monica herself says she was not the victim of sexual harassment, that she initiated it and pnwmom Apr 2016 #118

"A form of bullying" Prism Apr 2016 #84

I knew it was inevitable. I just thought that only the Republicans would stoop that low. Blaukraut Apr 2016 #102

Yup. Agree. Pathetic. MichiganVote Apr 2016 #109

How is this bad? runaway hero Apr 2016 #103

Grow Up. frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #111

Butbutbut... he did NOT have sex, with that woman! vintx Apr 2016 #112

Why pay attention to this stuff? Non-starter. snowy owl Apr 2016 #114

Is she tough? Or not so tough? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #125

As severe despiration sets in, we can expect new lows from Bernie surrogates. riversedge Apr 2016 #130

Nailed it. Drop the mic, done. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #147

Bill comes w the wife Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #137

Bill's popularity was at his highest AFTER his impeachment. The general population pnwmom Apr 2016 #141

Probably most of them are in old age homes. Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #144

Bernie has some hotheaded surrogates, but until he goes there personally BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #151

Better get used to it. Vinca Apr 2016 #155

6 degrees of separation. Demnorth Apr 2016 #156

Spoken like a true Hillary feminist® beedle Apr 2016 #170

The republicans will bring up all of his former sex partners. Suggest you get used to it and buy a Autumn Apr 2016 #171

At least you're admitting these people are behaving as badly as the Rethugs. Thanks. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #177

You should try listening to what she said. I fully support what she said about Monica but then I Autumn Apr 2016 #178

She just looked for a way to insert Monica's name into her intro. What a nasty person. pnwmom Apr 2016 #179

Monica speaks out against bullying and Monica's stand on bullying fit what Autumn Apr 2016 #182

Monica is speaking out on bullying, of the kind that Bernie supporters are experts in. pnwmom Apr 2016 #186

Stings does it that she was brought up and will be brought up again? Autumn Apr 2016 #187

Well if that's how the game is playing, then Bernie's past Communist and Marxist relationships... kstewart33 Apr 2016 #175

Dawson embarrasses herself as well as the Sanders campaign by bringing this up riversedge Apr 2016 #181

Sorry, I always get confused on this relationship beedle Apr 2016 #183

Rosario has chosen to invoke the name of Monica in order to attack Hillary Clinton. pnwmom Apr 2016 #185

The Sanders campaign is losing and so are getting nasty Gothmog Apr 2016 #184