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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)News Flash for Hillary Supporters... Bernie is not why Hillary is terrible. [View all]
Hillary, is why Hillary is a terrible candidate.Her favorability ratings were on the downslide this entire time. Had Bernie Sanders not even EXISTED, the Democratic Party would be at the exact same place it is today. And that place is trying to coddle and protect a presumptive nominee that has more baggage than a bellhop at a really busy hotel.
Let's take note of the shit that everyone is saying about Hillary at this very moment.
1. Emails and FBI investigation. <-- An issue before Bernie ever came along.
2. Benghazi. <-- A bullshit issue, but an issue nonetheless that was there before Bernie came along.
3. Wall St ties. <-- Oh you know Bernie hammers on this, but it was an issue before he came along because of Occupy.
4. Clinton Foundation. <-- An issue before Bernie came along.
5. Her passive attitude towards BLM. <-- An issue she made for herself.
6. Her husband. <-- Something that I really don't think should matter, but it's baggage that hurts her, regardless of Bernie, hell he doesn't even talk about it.
And that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
This meme that Bernie needs to "STOP HE'S RUINING OUR CHANCES" is bullshit. He's playing by the rules as he should. These are the rules of Democracy. Neither of our candidates have acquired the magic number of pledged delegates to become the nominee. Neither of them will. And there will be a contested convention because of this. Everytime I hear someone whine about how undemocratic it is for Bernie staying in, I remember being mocked for whining about Super Delegates and being told, "That's how our democratic process works! Don't like it? Leave it!"
Well guess what! You don't like Bernie staying in and contesting the nomination? Leave it!
We need to see that Hillary is a sinking ship candidate. All Bernie is doing is reminding us of that. Even if he weren't here, she'd STILL be in this situation, the only problem would be, we wouldn't have a plan B. And the B stands for Bernie.
Get mad at him all you want. The faults of Hillary's are her OWN, and he did not create them.
Feel free to continue supporting Hillary. But think REALLY hard about the damage she is doing to the Democratic Party by staying in the race. Sinking ships sometimes make it to their destinations, sure. But consider what that ship is up against, and whether or not it's baggage can be thrown overboard.
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ETA: Kind of funny to see how many Hillary supporters quickly miss the point here. Got all defensive because I called Hillary a terrible candidate.
Here's the point in BOLD for those of you with the hurt ego.
Bernie cannot be blamed for Hillary's faults. The meme that is going around that Bernie should drop out because he's ruining her chances, is not his doing. Now, you may comment appropriately on the topic. Thank you.
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News Flash for Hillary Supporters... Bernie is not why Hillary is terrible. [View all]
retrowire
May 2016
OP
How sad that you must repeat that over and over trying to get yourself to believe it.
rhett o rick
May 2016
#14
There are two clear sides, the progressives (Sanders side) that historically have worked hard
rhett o rick
May 2016
#89
It's not racist/sexist to point out a fact...Hillary won over POC and women, Bernie didn't.
all american girl
May 2016
#183
Just talking about who voted for her isn't racist/sexist, it is just what it is...facts
all american girl
May 2016
#199
Yes, husband means a man...know i making it into rasist/sexist but berinie supporters not
all american girl
May 2016
#207
And Idaho is sooo liberal...who won that state...or how about Nebraska or Kansas
all american girl
May 2016
#184
LOL. Those that never wanted Sanders to run really don't believe in democracy.
rhett o rick
May 2016
#19
She betrayed her Party and her country when she joined Bush to invade Iraq.
rhett o rick
May 2016
#31
I do not CARE what they say about it. Nobody runs me just because we both black.
bravenak
May 2016
#51
No but you try to say that Sanders supporters need to be more diverse. The bottom line is
rhett o rick
May 2016
#54
Better off with Hillary than Sanders who just wants to bring back working class whites
bravenak
May 2016
#56
Sadly you turn your back on progressives that have always been there. Hillary hasn't. She
rhett o rick
May 2016
#63
This is a class war and Goldman-Sachs isn't on the same side as the People.
rhett o rick
May 2016
#79
Stop paying attention to me then. All that searhing me all over the net has been nasty
bravenak
May 2016
#77
Months of smearing Bernie and his supporters as racist/sexist while you had your own bigotry
Arazi
May 2016
#83
Can't say that I have. That would completely justify your attitude of thinking I'm privileged.
chwaliszewski
May 2016
#125
Well, I for one wish you nothing but good luck for the rest of your life.
chwaliszewski
May 2016
#148
oppression goes from something very abstract to something very real
forjusticethunders
May 2016
#181
If your weakass candidate can't even win his own party's nomination....(Sanders a democrat HA!)
workinclasszero
May 2016
#194
Bernie came in 2nd place to a terrible candidate is what you are saying I guess.
Trenzalore
May 2016
#2
A News Flash for Bernie Supporters, Hillary nor DWS is the reason why Sanders is not a better
Thinkingabout
May 2016
#3
Newsflash! Hillary is not terrible and the phrase "Madam President" has a nice ring to it.
Arkansas Granny
May 2016
#4
She is clearly a friend of the Oligarchy and not the 99%. Why not choose a friend of
rhett o rick
May 2016
#16
I'm not choosing friends. I don't dislike Bernie, but I think Hillary is the best candidate.
Arkansas Granny
May 2016
#40
After the Rich and Powerful manipulated the election system Hillary is ahead. Funny how people that
rhett o rick
May 2016
#58
Democrats have established themselves as the Party that goes along to get along.
Maedhros
May 2016
#65
There are a lot of people that don't believe she is honest. Her lies in 2002 about WMD in
rhett o rick
May 2016
#52
HRC's substantial flaws are neither Bernie's fault nor do they warrant his supporters' overlooking
JudyM
May 2016
#5
And yet, BS is being beaten in the Primaries by Secretary Clinton ... that must be embarrassing n/t
SFnomad
May 2016
#7
3 million is another Clinton lie. That excludes the caucus states. Just another Clinton lie.
rhett o rick
May 2016
#23
Hillary is not terrible; Bernie is the reason many liberals wrongly claim she is. N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2016
#12
Has never actually voted in a presidential election. Of course he cannot know!
bravenak
May 2016
#82
Newsflash for Bernie supporters, we don't care about Bernie as a candidate. It's over. nt
stevenleser
May 2016
#29
Sure it is and that's why you mention Bernie. He's irrelevant as a candidate now. nt
stevenleser
May 2016
#87
Hey are you going to inexplicably support Bernie if he gives a concession speech?
retrowire
May 2016
#103
reckless neocon regime change Libya, double-crossing voters on Colombia FTA, Honduras, UBS, TPP,
amborin
May 2016
#33
That makes Bernie more horrible. She is beating him by a significant margin
redstateblues
May 2016
#37
Wish my friends were your friends. Mine can't be bothered to care. Depressing.
snowy owl
May 2016
#110
Clinton is not in trouble. As soon as we can kick Sanders to the curb, she can get on it and will do
seabeyond
May 2016
#120
We have two terrible candidates, neither of whom is to blame for the other, but both of whom
Recursion
May 2016
#137
I feel it strongly. This is the literal two worst candidates we could have narrowed down to
Recursion
May 2016
#140
Exactly, Hillary lost me long before she even announced her candidacy. Bernie running was
Live and Learn
May 2016
#167
The meme is not that Bernie should drop out, just that he should focus his attacks on Trump
oberliner
May 2016
#170