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2016 Postmortem

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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:53 AM May 2016

Hillary will not "clinch" the nomination unless Bernie drops out or the convention floor vote [View all]

Hillary will not "clinch" the nomination unless Bernie drops out or the convention floor vote, whichever comes first.

She will undoubtedly secure the majority of the pledged delegates next week. And, as of now, enjoys the support of enough super delegates to bridge the gap to the number to clinch. Thus, she will become the "presumptive nominee" on June 7. Only if/when Bernie drops out will she have clinched it. Alternatively, she would clinch if/when she receives 2,383 delegate votes on the convention floor.

But Bernie is taking to the convention and for good reason. Not the least of which is the State OIG report release, which publicly raised serious questions and concerns about Hillary as a nominee and her inherent liability to the party. My hope it the FBI wraps up and reports prior to the convention in order for the party to make an informed decision, one way or the other.

To be clear, I hope that Hillary is not implicated in any criminal liability and I hope none of her staff are. However, the OIG report made clear that assuming there was no wrongdoing is erroneous. It remains an open and serious question.

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Secretary Clinton cliches the nomination on June 7th ... everything else is #BernieMath n/t SFnomad May 2016 #1
Yep. ucrdem May 2016 #6
She cannot reach 2383 pledged delegates on June 7. senz May 2016 #33
Secretary Clinton doesn't have to reach 2383 pledged delegates, ever ... that's #BernieMath SFnomad May 2016 #41
Nope. Not in pledged delegates. bkkyosemite May 2016 #2
The OIG report was a mild hand slap, nothing more. COLGATE4 May 2016 #3
The OIG said she violated the law. And, worse, it referenced four emails morningfog May 2016 #9
There was no violation of any law. She may have violated Department COLGATE4 May 2016 #12
State regulations implementing statutory law are laws. morningfog May 2016 #13
What are the penalties for these admin law violations? COLGATE4 May 2016 #14
Really high bar you've set there for your candidate. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #30
Soon she will be all Democrats nominee. nt WhiteTara May 2016 #37
Same as for Colin Powell. COLGATE4 May 2016 #47
A republican. How apropos. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #48
"She will undoubtedly secure the majority of the pledged delegates next week" Dem2 May 2016 #4
Just like obama didn't clinch the general election until the electoral college voted. geek tragedy May 2016 #5
I agree, sanders real nature is being revealed and I gotta say we are dodging a bullet beachbum bob May 2016 #7
Yep! pandr32 May 2016 #40
Obama clinched when Hillary dropped out. morningfog May 2016 #8
Not true. He clinched when he had both the pledged delegate win and overall delegate win. geek tragedy May 2016 #11
"dead end supporters" sick of the insults constant insults. bkkyosemite May 2016 #10
They're asleep....they're us before findrskeep May 2016 #15
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." Reiyuki May 2016 #34
Yep, just like virtually every other time. Garrett78 May 2016 #16
presumptive nominee = clinched nomination = President of the United States nt asuhornets May 2016 #17
word salad = lack of critical thought = talking bot regurgitating bot nt morningfog May 2016 #20
LOL... you lose asuhornets May 2016 #22
LOL....yes, IQ points with every post of yours I read. morningfog May 2016 #24
Yep. The coming contested convention ought not to frighten her supporters. Orsino May 2016 #18
I don't think Clinton supporters are frightened. Garrett78 May 2016 #32
A deal is certainly possible which might include concession. Orsino May 2016 #38
Most of the media declared the 2008 primary over on May 6th Tarc May 2016 #19
Yes, the media will. Everyone will refer to her as the presumptive nominee. morningfog May 2016 #21
I am going to give you your space... asuhornets May 2016 #23
Staying in until the convention is wisest & most honorable for Bernie. senz May 2016 #44
You're clearly confusing "clinching" with "winning." She'll clinch next week, then win @ convention. BobbyDrake May 2016 #25
If Bernie wants to continue his quixotic campaign/WeaverDevine Retirement Fund tritsofme May 2016 #26
Because Bernie is going to sweet talk 500 superdelegates to switch? Gomez163 May 2016 #27
In every contested primary since adoption of super delegates, the winner is announced based on SDs Gothmog May 2016 #28
I mostly agree with you, except firebrand80 May 2016 #29
Yes she will. (This is a silly post.) NurseJackie May 2016 #31
I don't give a shit what you believe. morningfog May 2016 #35
Bernie's supporters want him to stay on to the convention. senz May 2016 #36
I agree, and he's doing exactly what he promised, fighting all the way to the convention. eom DookDook May 2016 #39
"NEW RULES"--You forgot ProgressiveEconomist May 2016 #42
Lol. See you at the floor vote. morningfog May 2016 #43
There is no way she won't be the nominnee. It is WRITTEN. n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #45
Again with this crap??? Beacool May 2016 #46
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