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2016 Postmortem

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amborin

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Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:50 AM Jun 2016

This really sums it up [View all]

This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary,” wrote the Intercept journalist on Tuesday. “The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identities the media organization — incredibly — conceals.”

He went on to write that while being the first female nominee of a major political party in the U.S. is important symbolically speaking, there is not much else to be thrilled about with regards to the results of the 2016 primary contests.

From The Intercept:

[Monday] night, the Associated Press — on a day when nobody voted — surprised everyone by abruptly declaring the Democratic Party primary over and Hillary Clinton the victor. The decree, issued the night before the California primary in which polls show Clinton and Bernie Sanders in a very close race, was based on the media organization’s survey of “superdelegates”: the Democratic Party’s 720 insiders, corporate donors, and officials whose votes for the presidential nominee count the same as the actually elected delegates. AP claims that superdelegates who had not previously announced their intentions privately told AP reporters that they intend to vote for Clinton, bringing her over the threshold. AP is concealing the identity of the decisive superdelegates who said this.

Although the Sanders campaign rejected the validity of AP’s declaration — on the ground that the superdelegates do not vote until the convention and he intends to try to persuade them to vote for him — most major media outlets followed the projection and declared Clinton the winner. ... The decisive edifice of superdelegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it’s only fitting that its nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward, and undemocratic sputter.


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the actual substance — rallying behind a Wall Street-funded, status quo-perpetuating, multimillionaire militarist — is grim in the extreme. The Democratic Party got exactly the ending it deserved.

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/glenn_greenwald_spot-on_ap_premature_declaration_hillary_clinton_20160608
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This really sums it up [View all] amborin Jun 2016 OP
Yep, we did. We got rid of the sore losers. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
Pretty impressive response. peace13 Jun 2016 #4
Leaving you with a MAXIMUM 29% share of the electorate. dchill Jun 2016 #6
Only if you don't understand who independents are. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #9
Everybody is a fraction of the total. dchill Jun 2016 #13
In states with those open primaries, they registered as indies. CA showed the influence of Bernie tonyt53 Jun 2016 #28
CA showed the influence of the AP. dchill Jun 2016 #38
What about the influence of Jerry Brown? George Eliot Jun 2016 #49
that dem number includes progressives, thanks to Bernie, so dont include those larkrake Jun 2016 #39
The real question is lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #19
Y'all can go ahead and be sore winners in the primary... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #23
Bleak.... peace13 Jun 2016 #2
The time has come to lay down our digital arms. If we need a June 16 deadline imposed on us Trust Buster Jun 2016 #3
B.S. this is not a negative attack. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #8
Re-read the last highlight in the OP and tell me that will fly on June 16. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #11
Well, at least I can stop being whatever a "Democrat" is, these days! n/t djean111 Jun 2016 #5
This. nt vintx Jun 2016 #21
+1. nt ncliberal Jun 2016 #43
The AP can count to 2383. They did so, and reported the results. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #7
Why is every critique 'whining'? floppyboo Jun 2016 #12
A critique based on intentionally false information is not a critique. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15
A critique is an argued opinion based on interpretation of facts floppyboo Jun 2016 #20
Hillary now has 2,178 pledged delegates. We do not know how the SDs will vote in July. senz Jun 2016 #22
You don't know how the pledged delegates are going to vote either Trenzalore Jun 2016 #42
First, they did not just "count to 2383"... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #25
I missed Hillary's victory speech last was she wearing Tweed by any chance? azurnoir Jun 2016 #10
*Snerk* bvf Jun 2016 #16
well I'm not sure if it's still in fashion oe what azurnoir Jun 2016 #17
Apt, it is. libdem4life Jun 2016 #18
Damn surprised that it took 26 minutes edgineered Jun 2016 #30
Yeap, ANOTHER sanders post making an issue of what Clinton wears... .sigh... so deaf uponit7771 Jun 2016 #26
Whoosh! (Never gets old, Ed.) bvf Jun 2016 #31
Kickin' for the truth! Faux pas Jun 2016 #14
Bullshit: This is how it ended AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #29
Yep. The last cheating dishonesty in a long dishonest career. senz Jun 2016 #24
Ask Ken Starr how that worked out for him. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #27
Better you should ask Al Gore. bvf Jun 2016 #33
Al forgot to use a popular President, and got screwed by Nader. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #34
Al didn't dare let a blown president bvf Jun 2016 #35
Nonsense. Clinton had record approval ratings leaving office. And your use of the term msanthrope Jun 2016 #36
Nope. Not nonsense at all. bvf Jun 2016 #37
73% approval rating after impeachment...from your own link. Thanks for proving msanthrope Jun 2016 #40
So you can't dispute the numbers I posted, choosing bvf Jun 2016 #41
I find that the people most concerned about Bill's infidelities tend to have Karma msanthrope Jun 2016 #44
So you have nothing to say bvf Jun 2016 #45
Oh....I think I said it. You did, too. Or did you not realize precisely what you telegraphed to msanthrope Jun 2016 #46
Ask Ken Starr how that worked out for him. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #32
"The Democratic Party got exactly the ending it deserved" Tarc Jun 2016 #47
She is the establishment candidate. All of the money and media are in her favor. Doctor_J Jun 2016 #48
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