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2016 Postmortem

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Scuba

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Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:58 AM Jul 2016

So we can't be opposed to the TPP 'cause it's Obama's thing, but ... [View all]

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/287628-centrist-dems-wary-of-public-option-push


Centrist Dems wary of public option push

But among more centrist members of the Senate, where the “public option” was stopped in 2009, there is little enthusiasm for the idea. Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D), who represents conservative-leaning North Dakota, pushed back the hardest. “I think it's critically important that we stop trying to complicate healthcare and we start taking a look at what needs to be fixed in ObamaCare,” Heitkamp said. “Until we actually have those conversations and we have bipartisan support, I think it's unrealistic to assume that we're going to see any kind of expansion of care.”

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Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), another Democrat from a red-leaning state, referred questions to his press office when asked if he supported a public option. His press office did not respond to inquiries.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), who survived a reelection scare in 2014, was noncommittal on the question of a public option, pivoting to a different change he’d like to see in ObamaCare. He called for addressing the requirement in ObamaCare for providing coverage to people who work more than 30 hours per week. Critics of the law say that requirement has created an incentive for employers be push people into part-time positions. “As we talk about other options we also have to address things like [the] 29 to 30 hour cliff,” Warner said. That “cliff” is an issue usually raised by Republicans.

While the public option has been embraced in the liberal-leaning quarters of the party, more centrist Democrats simply said they were unsure and had to study the details. “I'd have to see it first to see; it's a big term,” Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) said when asked about Obama’s public option proposal.



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Not getting the connection to TPP. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2016 #1
You can be opposed to whatever you want to be. Why do people start an argument with a false base? seabeyond Jul 2016 #2
Thank you for clarifying what I was thinking. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2016 #11
:-P NurseJackie Jul 2016 #16
My TPP ambivalence bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #3
It's unbalanced zipplewrath Jul 2016 #6
Free immigration only bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #7
Exactly zipplewrath Jul 2016 #8
I'm with you on that bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #12
International regulation zipplewrath Jul 2016 #13
Demand All Nations obey American Standards? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #14
Common standards zipplewrath Jul 2016 #15
Yet bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #17
Not exactly zipplewrath Jul 2016 #21
So if TPP were kept intact, but labor/environment protection added bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #22
Basically zipplewrath Jul 2016 #23
Why not actually work to improve labor standards worldwide? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #24
As I said zipplewrath Jul 2016 #25
Fair enough. Thank you. bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #28
The TPP can't be revised or altered now Arazi Jul 2016 #30
God forbid Toyota or Airbus build a plant in rural Mississippi or Alabama. Hoyt Jul 2016 #27
I disagree bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #29
You are far from alone! yallerdawg Jul 2016 #26
How to simplify healthcare WDIM Jul 2016 #4
Not that simple in reality, which is far, far more complicated ehrnst Jul 2016 #5
Its not that difficult almost every other country WDIM Jul 2016 #9
We are not every other country. ehrnst Jul 2016 #10
Yah, we are exceptional. truebluegreen Jul 2016 #18
Good one. George Eliot Jul 2016 #20
Right. The Kochs, the lobbyists, and the CEOS. Got it. George Eliot Jul 2016 #19
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