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Showing Original Post only (View all)NY Times Attends Clinton House Party in Iowa, Finds Instead MORE SANDERS SUPPORT In Evidence. [View all]
"....As far as I can see there's a gathering storm that represents the zeitgeist, and this was a little twinkling premonition out there at the house party in Iowa...."
A lesson in today's skim-the-headlines world of social media. Read the full article folks. From the Sunday NY Times article, Stung in 2008, Hillary Clinton Builds Formidable Team in Iowa, this little gem had me chuckling and to my mind really just about sums up the hapless fortune of this wooden, forced and Wall St-funded campaign:
The careful, ground-up organizing seems designed to counter the kind of threat to Mrs. Clinton that has emerged from Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, whose hard-left policies have inspired huge crowds at rallies. Many at the Clinton house party in Newton said Mr. Sanders was the candidate they were most drawn to. I like everything he says, said Dean Lane, who farms 1,800 acres of corn and soybeans.
Im a pretty wealthy farmer, he added. I think its ridiculous the way we treat poor people. Nobody wants to pay a dime in taxes.
Few of the 45 in attendance signed the Clinton commitment cards or said they were ready to volunteer for her.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/us/politics/stung-in-2008-hillary-clinton-builds-a-formidable-team-in-iowa.html?_r=1
Im a pretty wealthy farmer, he added. I think its ridiculous the way we treat poor people. Nobody wants to pay a dime in taxes.
Few of the 45 in attendance signed the Clinton commitment cards or said they were ready to volunteer for her.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/us/politics/stung-in-2008-hillary-clinton-builds-a-formidable-team-in-iowa.html?_r=1
Ostensibly this was to be a bold-faced, "we're serious about not letting this happen again," but it turned out that, as many Clinton supporters here have readily admitted, there's just not a lot of enthusiasm for her candidacy. And if Sanders loses there will be even less if she gets the nomination, and that should deeply concern the Dem party machine. Oh yes, there's plenty of name recognition. And there's many, including myself, who'd love to see a female President. But when you add it all up, the First Lady from 23 years ago and well-known corporatist and war monger represents a very damaging case. Like it or not, she will be the face for continued monarchy in the United States, and she also wears the vest of Protectorate for her biggest donors on Wall St, and not for the vast 99% on Main St still slogging through this grinding economic crisis. This will be all too abundantly clear once the public begins seeing them side by side and determining which of the two is more believable and genuine.
If Sanders continues to get the kinds of support he keeps building day by day, week by week, then the Dem party chiefs are going to have to contend with a very serious dilemma, should they have already decided to throw all their weight behind Clinton. Her negatives will continue to rise, I predict, inversely to Sanders' positives which will increase at 2 or 3x that. At some point the few sane and rational ones will have to stand up and ask the old guard if they're prepared to go down with the ship and blow a huge opportunity to return this party back to its roots. Middle America is opening their arms to Sanders in a big and impassioned way. If all that energy gets supplanted by Wall St and corporate campaign donors and the Machine doubles down on the Monarchy Candidate we will hear the greatest, penetrating sucking-sound of a vacuum ever heard. What about the numbers showing Clinton way ahead of Sanders? I think they're going to drastically change once folks get to finally see Sanders, while at the same time having to see yet more and more of Clinton. I predict then the changes in poll numbers will be dramatic and fast.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/27/1406031/-NY-Times-Attends-Clinton-House-Party-in-Iowa-Finds-Instead-More-Sanders-Support-In-Evidence
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NY Times Attends Clinton House Party in Iowa, Finds Instead MORE SANDERS SUPPORT In Evidence. [View all]
Segami
Jul 2015
OP
Bookmarking for the next time you quote a positive NYT article about Hillary.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2015
#4
Would you bookmark this for the next time Segami links to them to make a point.
NCTraveler
Jul 2015
#9
given that the people there told their stuff, I don't see how trashing NYT changes that.
roguevalley
Jul 2015
#62
Prey tell us which news outlet you prefer. We hear about all kinds that are in disfavor with
rhett o rick
Jul 2015
#123
No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
cantbeserious
Jul 2015
#5
That pretty much describes everyone in my family, but one...my mom. She just wants to see a woman President before she dies, as do I.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2015
#153
We're not talking about who BERNIE wants as voters, but who voters want as president!
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#113
They'll get it by being better off when Korporate Amerika pays their share of taxes, etc.
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#117
"Sanders has already dismissed women:s (sic) reproductive rights and LGBT equality"
BeanMusical
Jul 2015
#130
That blog post is your *evidence* that he "dismissed" women's and lgbt rights?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2015
#154
I will admit my circle is not that large but my best friend is a conservative who
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#44
To be fair she must be good on stage, after all Goldman Sachs paid her 250k to speak.
L0oniX
Jul 2015
#75
"when asked they can't give me a reason why other than "it's her turn" or "it's time for a woman""
senz
Jul 2015
#23
actually the presumptin is that she is attempting to play on a level playing field
Sheepshank
Jul 2015
#40
I never said, nor implied anything about her "lining her own pockets with campaign money"
davidpdx
Jul 2015
#165
I have also heard "she's the only one that can win in the general election" one too.
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#46
Same here, silence on her stands. I caught part of a speech she did the other day on
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#53
"The New York Times is shape-shifting into the National Enquirer" Segami 4/20/2015 nt.
NCTraveler
Jul 2015
#8
After the latest NYTimes hit piece on Hillary and emails, that Newsweek said was "despicable,"
pnwmom
Jul 2015
#25
You mean Media Matters, founded by one time Clinton enemy turned Clinton sycophant David Brock?
tularetom
Jul 2015
#30
They listed the stories, all well known and proven false stories that the NYT had published
pnwmom
Jul 2015
#43
The NY Times may have indeed stepped on their collective foreskins with the "criminal investigation"
tularetom
Jul 2015
#48
Considering that 250K state department emails on the classified system ended up with Wikileaks,
pnwmom
Jul 2015
#55
Three months ago the op would have fully agreed with you on your assessment.
NCTraveler
Jul 2015
#34
The revolution will not be televised . . . or even reported on by big media
Damansarajaya
Jul 2015
#26
many primary voters aren't diehards for X or Y, they're looking for the best deal--who best
MisterP
Jul 2015
#33
Oh come on! The ONLY reason she lost the last time was because Obama had a logo....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2015
#47
You mean the poll reversed on the other candidates, absolutely. As far as I am concerned the NY
still_one
Jul 2015
#68
The same HC supporters who rec threads citing socialist rags critical of Bernie?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2015
#95
When is the NYT going to shut down its anti-Clinton operation? Didn't they learn anything...
George II
Jul 2015
#84
We sure are dumb, aren't we? I'm selling my eggs and donating to Hillary!
beam me up scottie
Jul 2015
#90
While so many are so focused on articles like this Hillary is busy giving her policies.
Thinkingabout
Jul 2015
#89