2016 Postmortem

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts) Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:45 AM Nov 2015

You must vote for Hillary or things could get much worse. [View all]

On the other hand you could vote for Bernie and things might get better.

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You must vote for Hillary or things could get much worse. [View all] tk2kewl Nov 2015 OP

I think of it as, vote Hillary or the Republicans and things stay the same. Dawgs Nov 2015 #1

some people benefit from the status quo antigop Nov 2015 #3

Yep. Dawgs Nov 2015 #9

How can anyone not know by now that the entire GOP lineup Hortensis Nov 2015 #52

So under no circumstances will you support the Democratic Party if Hillary is the nominee? randys1 Nov 2015 #5

Way to put words in someone's mouth tk2kewl Nov 2015 #6

No. Just don't see the point. Dawgs Nov 2015 #10

So no, you wont vote for her under any circumstances because YOU dont see the point? randys1 Nov 2015 #11

I will vote for her, but I don't see the point. Dawgs Nov 2015 #13

The American people, on the whole, are not that crazy to vote in a repug clown . . . brush Nov 2015 #20

Maybe because Clinton isn't Obama, and.. Dawgs Nov 2015 #21

None of that equates to a repug win though brush Nov 2015 #22

One, being picked in a poll is not enthusiasm. Dawgs Nov 2015 #25

Dems have a history of turning out for the presidential election cycle brush Nov 2015 #29

For Obama, and not nearly as much the second time pengu Nov 2015 #37

"Lost" is not really accurate brush Nov 2015 #42

Keep telling yourself that pengu Nov 2015 #45

My point is that repugs have not actually "won" since 1988 brush Nov 2015 #48

Uh huh pengu Nov 2015 #55

Guess you haven't seen the latest polls brush Nov 2015 #74

You better hope the Dems come out. I don't think they will. Dawgs Nov 2015 #53

Why would you think that? brush Nov 2015 #75

I don't think Hillary can overcome some things. Dawgs Nov 2015 #84

Copy and paste much? brush Nov 2015 #87

No. My list came straight from my own mind. Dawgs Nov 2015 #91

Careful JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #24

Goddamned Hillary supporters!!! Sanders supporters would never, ever pull that trick!!!11 Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #36

I can only speak for myself, but i would never do that n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #40

Hm. About that claim: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #41

So calling out what has become a common means JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #43

No idea what you just said. However, your claim that you only speak for yourself... Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #44

I flubbed that reply. Oops JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #49

Why isn't waiting until after the nomination the way to go? Who's afraid? Only one mother earth Nov 2015 #32

Damned straight! Hillary and her worshippers are scared to death of their 25 point lead. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #38

Ah...the imaginary lead promoted by the corporate sponsored MSM...un huh...the ones mother earth Nov 2015 #88

Dig those socialist catch phrases. I mean, we loved the polls when Bernie was surging. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #89

Have fun while you can, Turd Way is lovely illusion. mother earth Nov 2015 #99

The name calling never ends. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #105

Here you go artislife Nov 2015 #100

This is one of the on going Puglover Nov 2015 #117

I was feeling kind of glum the other day HassleCat Nov 2015 #2

LOL nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #4

+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #8

lol, thanks for the chuckle closeupready Nov 2015 #23

Yep. It's the "fear" vs "hope" choice that BILL Clinton used to talk about. reformist2 Nov 2015 #7

Explain to me how Bernie wins against the nearly billion dollars the Kochs and others would throw upaloopa Nov 2015 #12

Ah, the pragmatic centrist tk2kewl Nov 2015 #14

You can't answer me can you? upaloopa Nov 2015 #16

No. I am dismissing your position as more of the same tk2kewl Nov 2015 #18

You can dismiss me but you can't dismiss the real world. At some point you will have to face what I upaloopa Nov 2015 #102

Hillary will not a lot more than money to overcome her popularity #'s and public apathy. Dawgs Nov 2015 #15

You can't answer me either can you? upaloopa Nov 2015 #17

I do have an answer. I don't know. Dawgs Nov 2015 #19

That popularity thing is the latest excuse. It has a stale date too upaloopa Nov 2015 #103

I never said any of that other stuff, but keep on making up shit. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #104

You have been found guilty of not bowing down to Hillary and her fans. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #122

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Sounds soooooo easy... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #46

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No actually I won't just go away... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #63

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What troll? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #68

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And perhaps YOU should. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #76

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Still waiting.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #78

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Probably the same as you do... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #82

Holy crapoli. An Avid Sanders Supporter booted? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #90

the people will turn out once they hear him" bull shit. RobertEarl Nov 2015 #31

The Kochs will spend that billion dollars to discredit him as a SOCIALIST. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #83

Looks like they got to you? RobertEarl Nov 2015 #108

Nope. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #110

Now I see why you support Hillary RobertEarl Nov 2015 #111

I support her because I'm realistic. It's difficult for you to understand because you're idealistic. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #115

+1 Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #39

He doesn't and you shouldn't. Happenstance24 Nov 2015 #56

so you're saying Koch wouldn't do the same to Hilary? azurnoir Nov 2015 #65

How much support did Barack Obama have SheilaT Nov 2015 #86

votes. nt artislife Nov 2015 #101

very well put olddots Nov 2015 #26

Ok... quickesst Nov 2015 #28

Good luck with that one. I'm really starting to hate this place. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #34

And good luck... quickesst Nov 2015 #96

Voting for Hillary is just kicking the can down the road. jalan48 Nov 2015 #30

You mean like how Bernie BECAME a Democrat the VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #47

Not all Democrats are Third Way corporatists. That became the norm will Bill Clinton. jalan48 Nov 2015 #58

Well THAT Democrat had to BECOME a Democrat.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #62

You seem a bit confused. jalan48 Nov 2015 #64

He said....and I quote VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #67

Remember it's a not just a name-it's actually positions on the issues. jalan48 Nov 2015 #69

No sorry....not going to fly... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #71

This isn't a sporting event-it's about positions on the issues. jalan48 Nov 2015 #72

Exactly. And Hillary's fans believe the Democratic Party IS Bill and Hillary Clinton Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #121

Unfortunately, by the time the Dem leadership figures out they have to Nay Nov 2015 #50

I agree but we can't give up the fight for a better America. jalan48 Nov 2015 #59

This is like the old meme of Republicans start from asking for what they want.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #33

So true. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #35

I will, if I must to prevent a full-on Republican administration, vote for Hillary. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #51

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Outside of the Hillary fans on DU and my sister, the most enthusiastic description of a Hillary Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #61

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Do you think they will endorse Sanders???? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #80

That explains the high poll numbers... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #79

Again, picking someone in a poll does not equal enthusiasm. Dawgs Nov 2015 #85

How does someone rate when they are NOT picked in a poll? n/t Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #92

I don't know. Maybe we can ask Obama. Dawgs Nov 2015 #93

Fair enough. Here's a link from the 2008 cycle: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #97

Agree. Although, I think Hillary hangs on this time. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #98

Yup. Sanders' prospects not looking good. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #106

So apparently you think a Republican will? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #107

I do. Yes, I think a Republican will win. My hope is that we can make a dent in their majorities Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #113

Then you should probably read her entire record VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #114

So which one are you pulling for? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #116

Which REPUB am I pulling for? None of the above. I can't stand any of them. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #118

then just a standard issue Curmudgeon... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #119

Yep. I'm a curmudgeon. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #120

It is called the 'enthusiasm gap' AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #95

Its STILL Name Recognition!!!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #109

I remember a Baptist minister in Oklahoma who began sermons with such statements Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #54

Vote for Hillary and things will get worse slower than before! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #94

...or not. brooklynite Nov 2015 #112