2016 Postmortem

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts) Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:18 AM Dec 2015

No one trusts Clinton except middle aged and older Democrats. Everyone else deeply distrusts her. [View all]

Only 26% of Independents think Clinton is "honest and trustworthy."

Only 7% of Republicans agree that Clinton is "honest and trustworthy."

By comparison, the next most distrusted candidate in either party, Trump, does 10% better than Clinton and is more trusted than Clinton among Independents, and Trump has more cross-over appeal among Democrats as compared to Clinton's virtually nonexistent appeal among Republicans.

Sanders is the most trusted candidate. He is trusted by almost three times as many Independents as Clinton (64%) and by over five times as many Republicans (39%).

This means Clinton would badly lose the independent vote and has virtually no potential for cross-over appeal for ticket-splitting Republicans.

Even among Democrats, Clinton is losing to Sanders by 66% to 17% among 18-29 year old Democrats. Only 24% of voters 18-34 trust Clinton, and Sanders is two and a half times more trusted (59%).

Can Clinton win the primary when she's only trusted by middle aged Democrats? Maybe, but it would be a dead end for our general election hopes because Clinton cannot expand beyond her base of middle aged moderate Democrats.

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No one trusts Clinton except middle aged and older Democrats. Everyone else deeply distrusts her. [View all] Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 OP

You forgot BLACKS, HISPANICS, WOMEN, all democrats all voting Hillary. bravenak Dec 2015 #1

The OP is talking about the General. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #9

He will not be in the General. bravenak Dec 2015 #10

The point still applies. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #11

Bravenak's point is HUGE! Hillary is THE candidate who Hortensis Dec 2015 #44

No, she actually doesn't. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #73

We'll be hearing more about the swing states as more polling data gets accumulated Babel_17 Dec 2015 #95

IMO, FE, this is wishful thinking. The one person you should Hortensis Dec 2015 #97

Those 18-29 year olds? Over half of them are PoC, Hispanics, and women. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #14

Yeah. They will still break for Hillary. bravenak Dec 2015 #17

No they won't. That's what the polls tell us. 59% for Sanders, remember? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #21

Yeah. He just cannot beat her. She is over 50 percent. bravenak Dec 2015 #22

Counting on Middle-aged and older Democrats voting in droves will not win you the GE. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #24

His worldview is stuck in the forties with FDR. bravenak Dec 2015 #26

The forties preceded the longest sustained economic growth in U.S. history. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #29

While blacks and women made barely any sustainable gains. bravenak Dec 2015 #30

That's an astute list of the things that we shouldn't revisit. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #32

If course we deserve a sustained era of economic growth. bravenak Dec 2015 #33

This is clawing at straws on your part. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #40

Yup. As usual ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #108

Ya! So, young white men do not trust Clinton. Hm, go figure. Wanting Sanders middle class fairy dust seabeyond Dec 2015 #122

I am 54 and do not care for her either. I will agree he skews a little younger CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #2

Women don't trust Bernie MaggieD Dec 2015 #3

We are all elderly and middle aged. bravenak Dec 2015 #27

There are scores of women on DU who trust Bernie. senz Dec 2015 #35

I'm a 75 year old WOMAN and I trust Bernie big time. Paka Dec 2015 #41

I see Hillary as a chameleon. Laelth Dec 2015 #43

Thank you for that good assessment. Paka Dec 2015 #100

She'd tailor her actions to sustain corp. donations to fund campaign for 2nd term. Divernan Dec 2015 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #58

THIS!!!!!! Fawke Em Dec 2015 #78

Yes, actually, we do trust him. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #76

Well your "we" doesn't seem to be translating to the polls MaggieD Dec 2015 #81

I'm not worried. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #85

Keep dreaming MaggieD Dec 2015 #88

I'm older, and I deeply distrust her. grasswire Dec 2015 #4

Same here. senz Dec 2015 #36

I agree MissDeeds Dec 2015 #47

At VCU, my daughter has told me Bernie is the man. rusty quoin Dec 2015 #5

yup ibegurpard Dec 2015 #6

Too bad we old-ass school marms vote and do election work. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #7

I already forgot the old-ass school marm insult! There are so many it's hard to keep track. betsuni Dec 2015 #16

At least we've moved on from "brain damaged" Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #18

Waste of time. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #79

Haha! You're a card! Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #91

And Harangue meringue! bravenak Dec 2015 #23

I loved that subthread. :D Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #49

It was fun for me too. bravenak Dec 2015 #92

Yes, way too bad that that huge "except" group is the Hortensis Dec 2015 #59

Can you blame them for NOT trusting her? pinebox Dec 2015 #8

And it's only part of the Dem bubble. senz Dec 2015 #37

Those "issues" are mostly made up bull shit from Bernie supporters. Why do you think we should give upaloopa Dec 2015 #48

made up BS from rightwing sources .... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #51

LOL You don't need RW sources when your candidate is so weak pinebox Dec 2015 #65

So why does DU:Bernie continue to do so ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #66

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #67

I don't know ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #70

I'm speaking with one :) pinebox Dec 2015 #80

No, you're not. But, you knew that or you should know it. Cha Dec 2015 #120

This seems to make the rounds every few hours. It's rife with either intentional or unintentional... George II Dec 2015 #113

You've been made a mark upaloopa pinebox Dec 2015 #64

I honestly don't see how you could trust her. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #12

63, and female... Ino Dec 2015 #13

33, gay male: lost all faith in her. n/t Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #15

I don't trust Bernie AT ALL MaggieD Dec 2015 #20

I don't think the Danes are having a pie in the sky. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #25

He's worked respectfully with Dems for decades, never dissed them, senz Dec 2015 #38

older female - sure as hell don't trust her. 840high Dec 2015 #31

55 year old beltanefauve Dec 2015 #19

The I will never vote for him/her factor will decide this election leveymg Dec 2015 #28

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #34

Citing demographics is not age-bashing. senz Dec 2015 #39

Nobody appears ready to seriously challenge Clinton. Laelth Dec 2015 #42

If that happens Robbins Dec 2015 #68

Those who have known her the longest trust her the most. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #45

Nope. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #83

So you believe the op to be using false metrice? Interesting. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #87

LMAO! leftofcool Dec 2015 #46

We middle aged and older Dems . . . Gamecock Lefty Dec 2015 #50

I still don't understand why I should distrust Clinton. betsuni Dec 2015 #52

Because Republicans are telling you to redstateblues Dec 2015 #56

you wish ibegurpard Dec 2015 #123

Beware! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2015 #53

73 percent of Democrats say she is honest and trustworthy in that poll oberliner Dec 2015 #54

yeah she has great leadership qualitys Robbins Dec 2015 #72

Sanders and Clinton are both fantastic candidates in my opinion oberliner Dec 2015 #75

Funny, the OP ignored that part. DCBob Dec 2015 #82

Democrats are 30% of the electorate. You don't win the general election with 30%. jeff47 Dec 2015 #103

Democrats + some independents = winning the general election oberliner Dec 2015 #106

And when you don't get those independents? jeff47 Dec 2015 #107

That wouldn't be good oberliner Dec 2015 #109

"Republicans bad!" does not work. jeff47 Dec 2015 #112

Agreed oberliner Dec 2015 #114

No, we actually aren't agreed jeff47 Dec 2015 #116

I am a middle-aged female TBF Dec 2015 #55

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #57

I am 67 years old. Hepburn Dec 2015 #60

polls are entertaining enough, but you blew it when you pointed to Trump polling better bigtree Dec 2015 #61

Talking with a registered Ind. "elderly" woman the other day and she said "Hillary is such a liar." Hiraeth Dec 2015 #62

I don't have much faith in your data analysis... SidDithers Dec 2015 #63

Well, Bernie can't win if he cannot connect to latinos and African-Americans--a big problem so far book_worm Dec 2015 #69

who says he can't Robbins Dec 2015 #74

What's middle aged these days? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #71

Middle aged covers whatever age I am at the momemt. Hepburn Dec 2015 #84

What a great perspective! Fawke Em Dec 2015 #86

Thanks...! n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #89

Way overstated, and based on surveys of all political leanings. MineralMan Dec 2015 #77

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #90

It's an Unusual Election gordyfl Dec 2015 #93

the fact that she is being investigated by the fbi should be an end to her campaign questionseverything Dec 2015 #117

I'm 65 and I DON'T trust her. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #94

I'm an AARP Card Carrying Member and I Don't Trust Her, Either gordyfl Dec 2015 #96

None of the middle aged or older Democrats I know trust her either. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #98

The ONLY people who trust Bernie are white, male Archie Bunkers from the midwest and rural northeast Sancho Dec 2015 #99

Yeah, I'm sure Archie Bunker types are going to support a guy Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #118

That's what poll analysis shows... Sancho Dec 2015 #119

You mean, like this rally Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #121

Great examples...I see Archie! Sancho Dec 2015 #124

And I see lots of "Glorias" and "Michaels" there as well Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #125

No one trusts Clinton except middle aged and older Democrats, bvar22 Dec 2015 #101

Don't know where this information was collected, he gave out information last year he had Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #102

I'm middle-aged and I don't trust her further than I could throw a scalded cat. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #104

This middle aged TransitJohn Dec 2015 #105

Come on. I'm an older Democrat and I deeply mistrust her. I wasn't polled. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #110

Oh No!! ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #111

Yet she is still beating he opponents. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #126

Keep trying liberal N proud Dec 2015 #127

But she will win HassleCat Dec 2015 #128

where do they get this stuff bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #129

Snd yet predictwise and Nate Silver still think that Clinton will be the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #130

Is 37 middle age? I don't trust her. (nt) bigwillq Dec 2015 #131

the FBI'd confiscation of the email server will not help this issue Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #132

my 19 year old reads DU...she is deeply mistrustful of Bernie...you guys have done a bang up job lol Sheepshank Dec 2015 #133