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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:47 AM
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Saddam says his sentencing timed to boost Bush

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L0334331.htm

INTERVIEW-Saddam says his sentencing timed to boost Bush

AMMAN, Nov 3 (Reuters) - Saddam Hussein's defence team urged a delay on Friday of his possible death sentence and said the ousted Iraqi leader believed Sunday's expected verdict was timed to boost President George Bush before U.S. mid-term elections.

Chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi said a letter was sent on Thursday asking the Iraqi High Tribunal trying the former president to delay delivering its verdict against him and his seven co-defendants charged with crimes against humanity.

Dulaimi repeated warnings that a death sentence against Saddam -- which would come before Tuesday's U.S. Congressional elections at a time when Bush faces mounting criticism over the Iraq war -- would plunge the region into wider bloodshed.

"We have requested at least a two-month adjournment to allow us to complete our presentations in the case in which our defence rights have been violated and in which our clients have been denied full legal defence," Dulaimi told Reuters in Amman.

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:58 AM
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1. STFU, Saddam. We don't need any help from YOUR ass.
:eyes:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:23 PM
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2. About Saddam...
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 12:24 PM by Whoa_Nelly
Some things that have bothered me ever since his capture...

He was clean shaven nine months before capture, yet was found with a beard that would have taken a lot longer to grow.
(scroll down to mail titled "Beard")
http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/03/12/mai03343.html

Have been looking online for references to what I THOUGHT I had read in the past about Saddam forbidding anyone under his reign were to NOT have beards at all, yet he kept the beard after capture.

Something about the photos of the Saddam on trial and the Saddam as president seem so different.

I have wondered all along if the Saddam on trial is the real Saddam...



But, what do I know... :shrug:
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:48 PM
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6. IMO that IS definitely him
Not to be argumentative but look at the eyes...that's the real Saddam IMO

Although there were a number of fake Saddams running around Baghdad right before and during the invasion.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:12 PM
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7. Eyes? Something about the whole face doesn't add up for me
But like I said...what do I know... :shrug:

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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:24 PM
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25. Only differences I see
The only differences I see are 1) his right eyebrow droops now 2) creases in the middle of his forehead have a different angle now. They go down to his left, and the old pictures show them (not very clearly) either horizontal or rising to his left.

Nose looks the same to me. Pouches under the eyes are the same. Creases between nose and cheeks are the same. Eyebrows are the same. Even the location of gray in the beard and mustache are identical.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:36 PM
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29. It looks to me that he's lost a lot of weight. nt
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:14 PM
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8. You know I noticed serious changes to his apperance pre and post war too n/t
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:17 PM
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10. And if you look at my post above yours here, check out his ears
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 02:26 PM by Whoa_Nelly
Since when does getting captured make your ears go from being against your head to sticking out from your head? :shrug:
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 03:18 PM
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12. The top photo is a profile, the other is a direct head shot.
Thus the ears will appear to stick out in the first one, and recede in the second. I am sorry the difference you mention are best explained in term of the style of the picture.

As to wearing a beard NOW, and not wearing a beard before the invasion, two possible explanations:

1. The US troops are NOT permitting him to have a razor, being afraid he may kill himself with the razor. More a concern before the invention of the Safety Razor in 1898, but it still may be in the Prison Manual being used in the prison holding Saddam.

2. Saddam is a smart politician. Before the Invasion he FEARED Al Queda and the Radical Fundamentalist Moslems. Mohammad told his followers to all grow bread and NOT to go clean shaven like the "Romans" (By which Mohammad meant the Eastern Roman Empire what is now called the Byzantine Empire). Since that date Beards have been a part of being "Moslem". Thus Saddam may be courting FUNDAMENTALISTS by leaving his beard grow out. When Saddam was in Power by being clean shaven (Except for his Mustache) he was showing his REJECTION of radical fundamentalist Islam.

Remember during his time on the run, he wanted to change his looks, a beard does that, when he was captured he was shaved and the pictures hit the airwaves. Even Saddam's domestic Enemies felt pity to him. Thus his beard today, represents two things, the REJECTION of his treatment when he was captured AND an embrace of at least a working arrangement with radical Islam. Thus by having a beard Saddam, without saying a thing, is telling his followers to work with Radical Islam, not against Radical Islam as Saddam followers had been doing prior to the US invasion of Iraq.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:09 PM
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23. And the nose is different. n/t
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:10 PM
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15. I could grow a longer beard in nine months.
mine grows very fast.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:14 PM
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17. Mine Has a Squirrel in it...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:31 PM
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3. Having Iraq erupt further won't be good for repubs.
This would only work if they sentenced him by Monday.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:15 PM
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9. Won't help our soldiers either...
I hope that the leadership has thought of this and is taking measures to protect them.. My God what makes me think that? Only a competent Administration would do that.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 07:27 PM
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32. They repubs do not give a damn about what happens to our soldiers.
They have proven that beyond a doubt.
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cautiouslywaiting Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:24 PM
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4. Since when
does anyone believe him?
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anakie Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 03:56 PM
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13. who, Bush?
n/t
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cautiouslywaiting Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 07:23 PM
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30. Well
I meant Saddam but the same could be asked of Bush.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:29 PM
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5. ain't gonna work. riots, looting, attacks, madness... Iraq will explode on
Sunday when his verdict is read.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:15 PM
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18. Who says it's going to be read in Iraq?
Only on Fox News... It's an exclusive.
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speedingbullet Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:34 PM
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11. Wider Bloodshed?
Will we be able to tell if the region is plunged into wider bloodshed? Can that shit-hole get any worse?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:00 PM
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14. 7 US troops killed on Thrus.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:11 PM
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16. I think Saddam is right. Kinda like the sudden drop in gas prices ...
Bush is calling in his chips.
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macKenzie_1313 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:52 PM
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19. reply
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 04:59 PM by macKenzie_1313
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:03 PM
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20. Oh, you edited your non sequitur post
Never mind....



Welcome to DU, enjoy your visit
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:27 PM
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21. and they are exactly right too
this is just one more proof of this 'trial' being merely a us-led pr stunt.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:31 PM
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22. of course, it's even obvious to Saddam
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:10 PM
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24. Chimp1 will make a very brief announcement, which I have written up for him
(eyes upward & slightly crossed, lips pursed)

"Today, the sovrin democratcy of Iraq convicted one of the worst criminals of our time, Sadd'm Hoosane. This shows that the gummint is working the way it should in Iran,,err..Iraq, due to the valiant efforts of our fightin' men 'n wimmin. The only way we as a nation kin continue to support the war effort is to vote straight republican tomorrow, or if yer a Democrat, vote ANY FRIKKIN' WAY YOU WANT IF IT'S ON A DIEBOLD MACHINE IF YOU GET MY DRIF...what, Karl? Oh, I mean...vote republican or the terrorists get free cable!! Heh heh. Goodnight."
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:29 PM
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26. yup, rover bites, bush barks
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:29 PM
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27. This will be seen as the transparent political ploy that it is,
from an administration desperate to cover up its crimes.

Isn't is amazing that despite getting a new judge and having several lawyer changes, they were still able to finish "on schedule"?

Our response to the news: WAS IT WORTH IT?? How many thousands dead and wounded, and how many billions of dollars? For ONE GUY?!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:29 PM
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28. He's probably right
So what?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 07:25 PM
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31. Of course it is.
Saddam knows a thing or two about executing people for political purposes without a fair trial.
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