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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 07:51 AM Original message |
5,000 nuclear power reactors needed (Peak Oil Article) |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. "...clean energy..." |
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slor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Maybe we need to start planting... |
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xpat (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Why not learn some engineering, rather than screaming |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. " 25 square miles for (I think) a 200 KW generator - sumthing wrong there |
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xpat (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. You're right, it's not 25 sq miles, but 30+ |
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xpat (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. What does this statement mean to you? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. What does this statement mean to you? |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. "It's been emitting radiation for billions of years" ? we just CREATED it! |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 03:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. You're right, we do create DU |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. The Radioactivity may be only 60% - but Alpha particles increase! |
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xpat (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #33 |
72. Depleted uranium |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Solar and wind do NOT cost nearly as much as nuclear |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Why are the same corporations who produce most of our nuclear energy |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. This is the leagcy of French uranium mining in Africa |
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xpat (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Show us some information |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The claim was made that... |
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xpat (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. If you want to make claims like this |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Not enough data exist to make these comparisons |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not renewable, total cost of ownership (per kW) very high. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
4. What a load of crap |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. please ...educate us |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. dam- i`m to old to shovel anymore shit |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
6. NIBY This Number Waaaaaaaaay Down |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. New pebble bed reactors are "walk away safe" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Yeppers, just buying that spin, aren't you? |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. And This Is Gonna Be Paid For By Whom??? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Please reread my post |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Adding To Your Comments |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Nope. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 03:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Perception Is An Issue |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. You can't mine Hydrogen |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. you believe the DOE? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yes, I do |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. perhaps I would be less inclined to oppose the pebble bed reactors |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. That Wired article was written by a couple of snarky little pubs |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Renewables not ready? Guess again... |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. You raise my point |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. No it's currently 3500 MW and increasing exponentially at ~1000MW per year |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Pebble bed reactor potential |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. No, the reason there have been no new nuclear reactors ordered |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Wind power no longer kills migratory birds and there is NO NOISE |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. Thermal Depolymerization Is A Very Promising Technology |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. but no so promising that it will come anywhere near |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. It does look good |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 04:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. It is not miraculous |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Understood -- But It Can Use ANY Kind Of Waste -- Even Manure |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. Global uranium demand is expected to outstrip supply by 2013 |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. That's only proven reserves; |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Spent fuel reprocessing will be enormously expensive |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Wow 20 BILLION. Break the bank. |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. And how much money do we spend on schools?? |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 04:12 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Without energy to power our economy, how many kids will be in schools? |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. Of course we need energy - but nuclear is the wrong way to go. |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. How much do we spend on healthcare from pollution from coal power plants? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Nationalized???? |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Oh give me a break |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. SMUD has some of the lowest electricity rates in CA |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. There is no safe nuclear power. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 04:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Indeed, when our country has spent 10X that amount in Iraq |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Who will foot the bill for this???? |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 04:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. Use thorium |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. You'd need a lot more of it |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Not to mention there are no licensed thorium reactor |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. ttt |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. Rather dismissive of biofuel. |
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queeg (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
44. I agree and they can build it in my backyard. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
53. Harvard did a study in 1975 on the implications on Civil Liberties... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Excellent point! |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
67. Other nations will develop nuclear power. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. A lot of "utterly ethical, honest, and competent" people have become |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Renewables do not have the positive net-energy return that cheap oil did. |
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