I've seen the promos for that new movie, "10,000 B.C"

[terrya]

Humans...and wooly mammoths in the same era?

Sort of flexible with historical epochs, eh? Or am I missing something?

[Taverner]

1. I thought humans and mammoths did co-exist?

During the ice age...

[DainBramaged]

2. Yup

And I am so going to see this movie.

Why does every movie have to be historically correct??? Forrest Gump anyone?

Suspend your disbelief and enjoy.

[mainegreen]

3. They overlapped for thousands of years

[Taverner]

4. That's what I thought

We came around during the tail end of the Mastodon/Mammoth era

[Bucky]

16. It's not a coincidence. Humans more or less caused them to die off

We were both competing for the top of the food chair niche. Wherever humans moved in--both in North America and Eurasia--they quickly gobbled up mammoth food or chopped down the trees they needed to file down their tusks.

[NickB79]

19. The spears we shoved into their sides probably didn't help much either n/t

[geardaddy]

20. Bingo. n/t

[IzaSparrow]

26. I'm not so sure there was competition for a specific niche...

mammoths would have been herbivores, whereas man is an omnivore. diets may have overlapped somewhat, but it's doubtful there was much competitive exclusion (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_exclusion). Overhunting maybe one part of the extinction of the mastdons, along with changing climate.

[skypilot]

5. More like...

...alt-rock band members and wooly mammoths in the same era. I'll pass on this one.

[Orsino]

6. We are probably part of the reason mammoths died out. n/t

[Yavin4]

7. What About Everyone Speaking Perfect English?

That's truly amazing.

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. "300" meets "Apocalypto"?

[sammythecat]

9. Dana Stevens panned it in Slate

http://www.slate.com/id/2185924/nav/tap3/

[DainBramaged]

11. If she panned it it's good

critics suck.

[sammythecat]

12. ok

[Bucky]

23. I agree with your criticism. Oh wait

Oh wait....

[Richardo]

10. Hey, who else didn't know that they used mammoths to build the pyramids?

Really! It's in the movie! :dunce:


It looks horrifically stupid.

[terrya]

13. It is directed by Roland Emmerich

Of "Independence Day" and "The Day After Tomorrow" fame.

What the hell was I thinking?

[Richardo]

14. I heard that this morning and it's all I needed to know. That guy makes craptacular movies.

The review this morning said something to the effect of: "Until I saw 'Day After Tomorrow' I didn't know you could outrun frost." :D

[Bake]

15. Oh come on now! Independence Day is one of my fave movies!!

OK, a little hokey at times, but I love it!!

Bake

[sammythecat]

17. Some people like brussels sprouts

some don't. There isn't any right or wrong. So forgive me, I mean no offense, but in my top 5 worst movies of all time Independence Day is right there. It's visceral. I hated it. A lot.

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. Mammoths may well have existed when the pyramids were built

Several thousand miles away, admittedly, and dwarf mammoths (nice oxymoron, eh?), but they may have only died out around 2000 BC:

Geomorphological reconstruction indicates that Wrangel Island formed a part of Beringia (an area that included Chukotka, Alaska, and the huge expanse of the surrounding shelf) during the Late Pleistocene, when the global sea level was ca. 100 m below the present level. At the end of the Pleistocene or beginning of the Holocene, Wrangel Island separated from the continent (Hopkins 1975), becoming a refugium for the mammoth population. Our data show that this population survived as long as 6000 yr after all mammoths on the continent were extinct. Morphological studies of mammoth teeth demonstrate that a previously unknown dwarf species of mammoth evolved on Wrangel Island (Vartanyan et al. 1993).

Three Wrangel Island mammoth teeth were found to be of Late Pleistocene age, with one sample (LU-2807) (Table 2) deriving from the period of the Late Glacial maximum (~20,000 BP). We obtained similar dates for a mammoth tusk collected on Severnaya Zemlya Archipelago (19,270 � 130 BP) (Makeev, Arslanov and Garutt 1979), and for a front leg-bone found at the mouth of the Lena River, on the Bykovsky Peninsula (21,630 � 240 BP, LU-1328, Tomirdiaro et al. 1984). All of these data support the thesis that during the last glacial maximum, conditions in the East-Siberian Arctic and on the northern islands were adequate for habitation by mammoths.
...
During the last glacial maximum (ca. 20 ka ago), environmental conditions on Wrangel Island proved capable of sustaining habitation by mammoths. Our data show that woolly mammoths persisted on Wrangel Island in the mid-Holocene, from 7390-3730 yr ago. 14C dating has shown that mammoths inhabited Wrangel Island for as long as 6000 yr after the estimated extinction of Mammuthus primigenius on the Siberian continent.

http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/Journal/v37n1/vartanyan.html

[BlueJazz]

18. Unfortunately...Critics are ripping it to shreds...

[NickB79]

21. My girlfriend swears she saw velociraptors in a preview

I say she just saw the flightless killer birds that did exist up until 500,000 years ago in the Americas. She insists they were not the birds, she saw the birds and these weren't birds.

If there are raptors in this film, I'm going to be enraged :mad:

[Bucky]

24. Not dinosaurs, just really big emus.

How can you hate a movie with giant killer emus?

[IntravenousDemilo]

25. Eagles are raptors. Owls are raptors. Falcons are raptors... n/m

[underpants]

22. AND they are attacking the Eyptians

Oh brother :eyes:

[lame54]

27. Here's a great clip from the movie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG-O-FyQMrg

[LeftCoast]

29. My favorite comment from a critic (warning: possible spoiler)

From the Washington Post:

When a band of warlords invades their settlement, making off with Evolet and a boy named Baku (Nathanael Baring), D'Leh and master hunter Tic Tic (Cliff Curtis) set off on -- what else? -- an epic journey during which D'Leh will be tested in strength, devotion and how much he can look like a cross between Bob Marley and Jack Sparrow.