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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:18 PM
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MY doctor does NOT want to know about guns in the home
I went and saw a new doctor today and HE brought up the topic of government, healthcare and government intrusion into the medical practice. He said he does not think it is appropriate for the government to try to impose gun control (those were his words) thru questionaires asked of the patient during initial examination. I am a 50yo male partially disabled and he told me he just skipped over that portion of the questionaire because it is not his job to aide the gov in gun control.
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CelticThunder Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:22 PM
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1. He sounds like a stupid asshole.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:28 PM
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4. And a liar
The government does not require physicians to ask about guns in the home. Any doctor who tried to pull that bullshit is the real intruder and should be reported to the medical board. It's not his or her place to foist personal beliefs on patients. I wouldn't let him near me or my family.



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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:39 PM
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5. You don't know what the hell YOU are talking about
Have you seen the questionaire the SS administration sends to the doctor to ask the patient in the assessment process for disabilit? I have, I saw it today. The question is there, are there any guns in the household.

He and I were discussing the form and I welcome his personal input. There is noting to report to the medical board.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:59 PM
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8. prove it
Extensive internet search of official ss disability questionnaires doesn't turn anything up regarding guns. If mental instability is one of the disabilities, it is perhaps a very pertinent question to ask, however.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 11:19 PM
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10. Prove it?
The questionare was read to me, personally. That's my proof.

I don't care if you believe me or not.

Do you deny that doctors ask parents about guns in the home? No difference here.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:24 PM
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24. What was the Form number?
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 04:19 PM
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27. It was on a computer, the Dr was entering the info as he asked it
I never saw it.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 05:21 PM
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29. The forms are all availble online at the SSA website. If there's anything like what you claim,
it went through a Federal Register notice. Lot of us here are not so big on unsupported assertions
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:11 PM
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15. +

Information You'll Need When You Apply for Disability Benefits
http://www.ssa.gov/online/ssa-16.html
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:34 PM
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17. It wasn't in the application process
Edited on Tue May-17-11 12:35 PM by rl6214
it was in a doctors visit set up by the SS people, their doctor sent to by them. The doctor said it.
There is a psychological eval and it was during that portion.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:44 PM
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7. Sounds like a good doctor to me..
it's nobody else's business whether or not a patient has firearms in thier home..nor is it his job to assist the government in suppressing a constitutionally guaranteed civil liberty..
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:12 PM
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16. Whats that old saying?
"takes one to know one"
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 03:18 PM
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25. You got your medical degree from? n/t
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:26 PM
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2. I agree with him.
Unless your mental stability is in question, whether you have guns at home or not isn't any of his business.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:27 PM
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3. Seems a little odd, did y'all talk about single payer...
Edited on Mon May-16-11 10:27 PM by Fumesucker
err.. I mean socialized medicine?

Edited because I woke up..
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:43 PM
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6. We discussed how the insurance companies are going
to dominate the medical industry. We discussed how my premiums have gone up from $325 per month to $455 per month this year.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 05:43 AM
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13. *Going* to dominate the medical industry?
:rofl:

Have you and your doctor been out of the country for the last thirty years?
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:37 PM
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19. He is from El Salvador he told me
And he is not "my doctor", I was sent to him by SS for an eval.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 11:01 PM
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9. Doctor's should have freedom of speech like everyone else.
They should be allowed to ask a question regarding people's safety.

It's freedom of speech.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 11:20 PM
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11. After surgery should they be able to discuss how big or little your dick/vag is with
Whoever they want? Can they disclose your diagnosis with whoever they want?
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:21 PM
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22. Big difference between violating HIPPA
and asking a Pt a question. let's leave the strawman tactics to the grabbers
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:26 AM
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12. How the hell did you turn this into a freedom of speech issue??
I mean seriously, the mental gymnastics that were involved in you coming up with that post must be a thing to marvel at!
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:44 AM
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14. Wow. The ignorance...
IT BURNS!!!!!
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:14 PM
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21. Wow - teh anti-freedom stupid
it burns

yup
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:36 PM
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18. He sounds like a great Doctor. Recommend him to friends and family.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 08:41 PM
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30. Yep, grabbing that gubment money while bitching and whining about same.
Edited on Tue May-17-11 08:41 PM by Hoyt
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:10 PM
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20. Is your doctor a moran? Asking a question about guns in the home is not "imposing gun control"
RW koo koo paranoia

yup
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 03:21 PM
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26. koo koo paranoia!
YUP - pretty much sums your up views on guns and the BoR.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 04:20 PM
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28. Reading is fundamental
He is not my doctor, I was sent to him by the Social Security Administration for evaluation.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:22 PM
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23. I have an appointment with a new doctor scheduled for Friday
I'll post an after-action report.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 08:43 PM
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 08:42 PM
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31. Does your gun ever get sick? n/t
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