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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:34 PM Original message |
Rumor Confirmed: Rangel IS planning to reintroduce draft legislation |
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trezic (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You're kidding right? |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. If young republicans were being drafted, |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Helllloooo. We just lost another presidential election because |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. In my opinion, |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 07:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
99. Here is what they are looking at to try and avoid a draft |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #99 |
106. This has been the cry of every army |
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trezic (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I'm not kidding |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Nonsense. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Just curious: were you in the military? (eom) |
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trezic (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Actually |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. You proved the point by saying "Do you have a dog in this fight?" |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
91. Support our troops... |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #52 |
105. You make an excellent point! |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. A conscript army makes aggressive war much harder to start. |
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trezic (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Uh |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
62. Take a look at "Operation Northwoods" |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. I hear ya |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. I think that |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. If it's slavery |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. And your point is?? n/t |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 04:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. My point is |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Ah! I get it now. |
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The Sad Little Pony (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 06:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
81. Perhaps... |
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Charon (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
114. I'm not kidding |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
93. (R.I.P.) I agree. A 'professional military' in a democracy ... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. In order to invade Iran the draft needs to happen. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. No matter how |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Rangel is a fucking idiot. |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. they are corporate owned workers.... of course he would sponsor |
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rachelbirds (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. I wish! |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. What if? |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. You don't understand how this works to favor PEACE, do you? Here: |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. I agree with you. I think Rangel is upping the ante and raising the bet.. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
74. Still, it |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 02:31 AM Response to Reply #49 |
78. Every point you made is valid |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
98. Yup. Safeguard your kids well. Medical, CO, whatever. |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
103. That is a great post... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. Are you crazy? He's the most anti-war person in the House |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 12:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
107. He may be surprised to find |
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teenagebambam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Luckily... |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I'm glad for you. |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. That won't be an issue in the draft. Gays won't be exempt. N/T |
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pstans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Gay? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
88. of course they will be!!!! |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Gay people will be drafted, bank on it. N/T |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. don't be too sure |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. Better his bill than the GOP version. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. There is no GOP version. |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. No GOP version yet... n/t |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Wrong, the Repukes drafted a Draft proposal on Dec 20, 2001 |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Thanks--hadn't heard about that one. n/t |
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sunnystarr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. You're so right about that .... |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. The rich and powerful will always be able to buy their kids' favor, but... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
70. That's exactly what Rangel is hoping for |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 02:41 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Plus, he is a vet, he SERVED |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. Charlie Rangel is a genius |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Or Chad and Heather...... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. Rather than try to |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
18. Once again proving |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. You can't support the war and not support the draft. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Not true |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. The best Army in the world is currently understrength and overstretched. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Response |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I'm not advocating a draft. All I'm saying is those are the options as |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. What about leaving? |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 12:26 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Option 3: leave and fuck the consequences. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Says who? |
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The Sad Little Pony (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
96. But Rangel... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. It Isn't Rangel Who Is The Idiot. At Least Your Posts Are Consistent |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. An intelligent, well argued response |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
20. Charlie Rangel is a very smart man that shows support on |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. The only people that should be drafted.... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Why? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. this is my why of saying there should be no draft because |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Well, |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
72. And if some bizarre reason Rangel's bill gets passed |
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. Good Good Good |
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Stepup2 (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
29. Seems to me |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
31. We shouldn't rely on the Poverty Draft. If the US is going to fight |
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gjb (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
112. I agree see # 111 |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. This ploy worked so well last time... |
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HootieMcBoob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
46. Rangel is right to do this |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
47. Welp, I guess folks 18-21 might have to turn out better than 10% next time |
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radar (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. The good thing about a draft... |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
61. good, it is time to share the pain of sacrifice. |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. Randi talking about filling draft board positions! |
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coffeenap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
101. Yes--I know some who already have |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
65. Let's be reasonable here...There will be NO draft... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Agreed |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. True or not, good or not... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-05 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
73. I'll never support him again |
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fnottr (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I can kinda respect what he's trying to do here, but |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 04:34 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. WAIT - we already are playing politics with young peoples lives |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
77. Wake the fuck up, guys. |
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The Sad Little Pony (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Forced conscription... |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
82. Draft Bill, litttle chance of becoming law |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
83. I think a draft is inevitable if Dubya continues his mission from God, |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
84. The draft is immoral. Sure hope this goes down in flames -m |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
85. I think this is brilliant |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Exactly. |
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The Sad Little Pony (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. Unless... |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Well, I'm betting that it won't actually happen |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. his last bill had the option of community service for 2 years (something |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
90. I was a Louis Hershey - Lyndon Baines Johnson Fellow |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
94. Rangel is smart...I'm wondering, does he have a Repug co-sponsor yet?? |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #94 |
115. If you had kids in that draft age range. |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
95. It could be the fastest way to end the war. The draft might make |
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gjb (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Yeah and this time no academic deferments. Clean out the Young Repug... |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #95 |
116. Bush didn't go and neither will the rich young repugs of this era |
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Wrinkle_In_Time (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-05 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
102. Aw jeez, not this s**t again |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 01:47 AM Response to Reply #102 |
110. Thank you so much!! |
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dbeach (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
104. Draft improves the militray |
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Benson (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
108. So now the DRAFT will be blamed on DEMOCRATS?!!! |
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ArcRabbit (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
109. No matter who introduces it |
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No Exit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-05 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
113. I guess he has to kill those young people in order to save them. n/t |
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