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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:21 AM Original message |
My view on the Warren thing. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. how disappointingly reasonable. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I refuse to even read any post regarding this |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That is smart... I know there is a need for venting... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. You're willing to sacrifice some symbolism in order to make some gains in policy? |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. I admire your courage, Charles. Amen. n/t |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. And this is how he shows it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. oh, because the OP doesn't agree with you, he's a masochist |
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ncgrits (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Not that you'll care. I'm nobody around here. But that just earned a spot on my |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. ... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. it's about as offensive as it could possibly be |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Do you have ANY idea how offensive YOUR OP IS? |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:51 AM Original message |
you can disagree with the op |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
42. I take posts on their merit alone, not on what I have found the poster to be previously. |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Well, I don't see it that way, so I guess we just disagree. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I represent no one but myself as it says in the title "My View" |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The fact that you say you are gay is in some way saying that you are representing some segment |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
48. I think you're projecting about as wildly as is possible. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Ok, here are the offensive parts: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Yep. What we don't need are more gay people willing to roll over like this. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
10. You realize that makes you a homophobe, right? |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
11. May I ask what potential gains have you excited? |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. ... |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Thank you.....I very much hope our dreams arent dashed on |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. He;s already backburnered DADT and DOMA |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. ding ding ding! |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. I like your view |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
19. The problem with this view is that |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. Sadly, you're wrong. It's a signal of what's to come. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Have hope |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. I had hope when he was elected. No more. And I don't feel part of his big shindig anymore |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
21. And your proof for your proposition is?? |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I believe Obama when he says he will work for gay rights. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. And do you belive Rick Warren when he says he loves gay people |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I trust Obama to pass laws like ENDA that are good for my community. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. We've moved from "know" to "believe" to "trust" |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. The Presdient doesn't pass laws |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. Really-I saw him say that in the intrview with Ann Curry and also that |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. Great Attitude Charles... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
27. Thank you ccharles. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
28. When I was young I didn't understand how important gay civil rights were either. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. the OP never said one freakin' word to indicate that's his pov |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Anyone who really cares about civil rights HAS to understand how bad this pick is. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. He said it was a bad choice. He didn't say that he didn't understand |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I understand how important gay civil rights are. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. No, apparently you don't if you don't see how offensive Obama's pick of Warren is. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. And picking warren was just so unnecessary. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Exactly. I don't hate Obama, but I sure am fucking disappointed in him. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. We respectfully disagree and I hope that you have a lovely day. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. No, actually I don't respectfully disagree. I disagree wholeheartedly and without respect. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well ok then but I am still sending hugs if you want them or not. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I don't want your hugs. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I just don't like to think of someone upset with me. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Then stop saying things that make people upset if you don't like it. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I never meant to make you mad at me I was just posting my opinion. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Seriously, please take hint and stop "hugging" me. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. .... |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. And if you kept hugging me in person after I've repeatedly asked you to stop... |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I really hope you don't think I am this willing to hug people in real life. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Oh, I see. You're one of those people who acts entirely different online than in real life. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Only when it comes to going around hugging people all the time... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Uncle Liza, is that you? |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. I have never been called liza but you I won't care if you do. |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. I don't think that we are saying we (some of us anyway) hate Obama-just that this |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
65. Obama opposes Gay Marriage |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. As a woman, I would have preferred that a gay friendly or even gay woman pastor had |
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