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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:36 PM
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Did anyone see Armstrong and Cornel West duke it out on Black Forum?
It was a sight to see. Armstrong apologized.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:36 AM
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1. No....
But I would have liked to have seen that. I met Cornel West after a panel discussion at my church a few months back. He's from the old school. He doesn't mince words and make many of his comments in a poetic justice like manner.

Love him!

Hate Armstrong....who is filled with more self hate than is required. Guess when you are a closeted gay black man who shills for Bush, self hatred is a pre-requisite.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:11 AM
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6. Is he really gay? I thought he was married.... I guess I'm confusing him
with Keyes...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:20 PM
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10. He's VERY single......
and I have heard that he is gay. Nothing wrong with that mind-you...it's the closet part I have problems with.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:11 AM
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11. I agree! nm
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:06 AM
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2. I didn't get to see it...
can you tell us a little more about what was said.

BTW, what network is Black Forum on NOW? I can't seem to find it on ABC where I think it USED to be.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:15 AM
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7. Well....
Armstrong started spouting right wing propaganda and Cornel when on a long diatribe ending with calling him a STOOGE! LOLOL.... I wish they put the video on the net. I'll look around and see what I can find.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:00 PM
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3.  I'd have paid to see that!
Please, can you give a link or a summary of the fireworks?!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:27 PM
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5. yes, yes I love Cornel West!!

$$$$$$$'s are ready to see Cornel smack that piece of crap down to the ground.
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 08:29 PM
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4. YOUR FIRED!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

“AMERICA’S BLACK FORUM,” NATIONALLY SYNDICATED NEWS PROGRAM, TERMINATES COMMENTATOR ARMSTRONG WILLIAMS

(Washington, D.C. – January 11, 2005)

America’s Black Forum, the nationally syndicated weekly television news broadcast, has terminated its relationship with conservative pundit Armstrong Williams.

The action is in response to the admission by Williams that he received payments through Ketchum, Inc., a global public relations firm, to promote the Bush administration’s No Child Left Behind Act while acting as commentator for America’s Black Forum.

“Failure to disclose the potential conflict of interest has led to Mr. Williams’ dismissal and has impaired his credibility as a commentator expressing his own views,” said Byron Lewis, Jr., president and executive producer for America’s Black Forum. “As a respected television program with a 28-year history of presenting news and opinion, maintaining the journalistic integrity of our broadcast is our top priority.”

America’s Black Forum is a nationally syndicated television news broadcast seen on over 100 television stations across the country and on the TV One cable network. The program is hosted by Juan Williams of Fox News Sunday and James Brown of Fox NFL Sunday. The hosts are joined by commentators including former White House correspondent Deborah Mathis and NAACP chair Julian Bond.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:24 AM
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8. Armstrong is finished I'm afraid... He fell on his sword nm
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:08 AM
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9. Yep, just like the rest of 'em.
The other side tormented dems for 8 years over every teeny tiny real or imagined infraction with the aid of hysterical 24/7 media coverage. But their own suspect members - with the exception of DeLay, of course - immediately take a dive and drop out of sight to avoid even a fraction of the same, with the evident complicity of a suddenly moderate press corps.

Williams got off a parting shot by saying he wasn't the only one and that to me is more significant than his current humiliation. He isn't the only and that's what we should be concentrating on, especially considering the donations pouring in to help 'promote' Social Security reform.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:16 PM
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12. Armstrong also called Dr. West a "sympathizer"
to "Islamo-fascism." Well, this really did not sit well with West, Julian Bond, or Juan Williams, who kept hectoring him until he finally--after a commercial--gave in and apologized. This gave Dr. West the chance to talk about the importance of civil debate in democratic societies and to indict Williams for falling down on the job.

Williams is just repugnant. It was good to see two icons like Bond and West slap him around a bit. He didn't know what hit him because, of course, he is accustomed to getting away with saying bullshit like that.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 02:09 AM
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13. Here's a great radio debate
regarding Armstrong Williams and the whole issue of propoganda disguised as news. You've got to hear the guy from the right desperately throw in Tavis Smiley's name a few times and, of course, the UN scandal.

It's not long so please give a listen. Click on:http://www.moretothepoint.com/">Mainstream Media, Fake News and Politics for January 14.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 04:07 AM
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14. I wish I coulda seen that!
Geaux Dr. West!!! :kick:
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:08 PM
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15. Swamp Rat, check out the radio link I posted,
you'll LOVE the debate!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 06:26 PM
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16. Thanks. I tried the link but the server is apparently down. n/t
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:46 AM
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17. Okay, try this
Go to: http://www.moretothepoint.com/ and click on the audio link by Mainstream Media, Fake News and Politics under Recent Programs.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:45 PM
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18. Thanks, I'm listening right now. n/t
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