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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:10 AM Original message |
Obama announcing $5 BILLION in research grants for cures for diseases |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. GOOD! This generation's moon shot. nt |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. Excellent news! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. Just $5 Billion! What a disgrace!!!!!! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I hope that was sarcasm |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. It was. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. The entire yearly budget of the NIH is $30 billion. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. $5 billion is the largest investment in research for disease cures in history. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I'm aware. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Then you deserve a big thanks for your service. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. No I don't. I owe a big debt of gratitude to my government and US taxpayers... |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Awesome! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. It's posts like this that have made this place such a downer lately. |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I'd rather be a realist than a cheerleader nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I'm no cheerleader but you are a complainophile. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Yeah, like Penicillin! |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. +1. It's important to tell the truth, but people will often hate you for it. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Problem is, it's not the truth. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. He didn't dispute that. He commented that the average American will have to go bankrupt |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Not all research is pharma-related. In fact, most of it isn't. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. And you'd be the first one bitching if Obama had nixed the money |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. I was THRILLED to see that this morning! Way to go Mr. President! |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
15. Why should the government fund the research, and insurance co's reap the profit? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Great point. That should be brought up in the debate for certain. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Huh? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Private pharmaceutical companies and their ilk don't profit from NIH funded research? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Directly, the answer is generally "no". |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. This paper says that 92% of the cancer drugs approved by the FDA were developed by NIH |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Again, most of the research conducted by the NIH has nothing to do with pharmaceuticals. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Just the profitable parts. That was the complaint. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. What exactly are you arguing for then? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I am wondering how the public funding/private profit model can be justified in light of the current |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. But pharma does not profit off of my research, nor does it profit off of 99%... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. According to the NIH, it's biggest expenditures are "Clinical Trials" and "Clinical Research" |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Impossible to say... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. He's comparing the public funding of a cure to the costs of private insurance. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Actually, it's similar to the public option. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. The insurance cos are the middle man, and pharma companies also profit greatly from the arrangement. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
16. One wonders if the same DUers against this, would have been complaining... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. +10000..... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. It's true - I wasn't *really* wondering. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. People bitching the US govt. giving money to the one field the US still leads the world in... |
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seemunkee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. My wife has been working on opening trials with recovery money |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
32. Another give away to Big Pharma, or will it go to the teaching medical schools? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. The money goes to research projects conducted by both academic and professional research firms |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Great. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. It goes to my paycheck and my husband's paycheck... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. How does the data exclusivity amendment in the proposed bills... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Sorry, I, like the majority of NIH scientists, am so far removed from clinical trials.... |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. That is what I wanted to hear. Sorry, I don't trust big give-aways. I |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Nor do I. And there is always a corporate tie-in, even with science... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
38. May all the haters get sick, suffer, and die... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Never did I think I would have to defend NIH funding on DU. |
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Rude Dog (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You didn't expect this? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
54. I see the Alt-Med nuts are whining. |
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