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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:08 PM Original message |
So, a fire department let three dogs and a cat burn to death... |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Privatize it all... |
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1620rock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. ASSHOLE FD. They should be in prison! |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
315. Does it matter if, in another fire three years ago, they *DID* save his bacon... |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #315 |
346. Reference? |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #315 |
349. You must support denying care at the ER for the uninsured then n/t |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. That law is as close to protection pay |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It sure is. n/t |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
35. damn right! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
152. the libertarian policy belongs to the county, & it's humorous to see that fact spun 180. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. Since now? And people are DEFENDING this. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Hell, cheering it. |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. His dogs and cat |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yep. (nt) |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
127. so firemen should risk their own lives to save the pets of people who are outside |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #127 |
158. how can you have a photo of marx as your avatar???? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #158 |
167. yes, giving people the option not to pay is the aberration, & that's what the county voted for, 19-1 |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #167 |
185. the county should force all people to pay for fire service |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #185 |
193. & how do you suggest "the county" "force" "the county" to pay when "the county" DOESN'T WANT TO? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #193 |
268. how??? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #268 |
279. well why do you think it is that hasn't happened, eh? since this dispute has been going on for |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #279 |
293. politicians working for monied interests |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #293 |
309. that may be. however, the same interests are served when a small-town PUBLICLY_FUNDED fire dept is |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #185 |
344. they should force them? |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #167 |
198. Hmm..so let's see if we can apply the same to the cops...then when they try and bust... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #198 |
204. they won't be saving anyone if the city of 2500 residents goes bankrupt to pay for county (32K |
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #204 |
325. So, half of them never paid the bill, so charge a higher penalty. Problem solved. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #167 |
232. good points. unfortunate but factual. wonder what would happen |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #232 |
238. The fire department already stated they respond to calls where lives are at stake, |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #238 |
251. Again with the facts. Geez! BTW, |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #251 |
276. and the homeowners pay for it. & likely more than they'd pay for public fire protection, |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #276 |
301. It's part of their ins. premium, yes, but |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #167 |
245. Screw that, EVERYONE should pay... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #245 |
259. BUT THEY DON'T. AND NO ONE CAN MAKE THEM. That's the reality of the situation. |
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Stonepounder (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #259 |
340. They can handle it very easily |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #245 |
294. you must have misunderstood me |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #167 |
298. We have a fellow here in Washington whose name is Tim Eyman |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #167 |
366. Fires are not just a hazard to the property that is burning, they |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #158 |
249. Maybe taxes SHOULD pay for fire service. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #127 |
208. delete nt |
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MsPithy (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #127 |
313. Isn't animal cruelty a crime? |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #313 |
351. Good point. |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #127 |
321. I would've gone after the dogs, then the cat. Free, and I don't care who for. |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
367. I've avoided this topic since yesterday. Have progressives |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #367 |
377. Not ""Progressives" ; just the usual party faithful |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
375. His KIDS pets no less! They think that the beloved pets of small children |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #375 |
397. it's not the democratic party you knew, because NO ONE thinks |
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FirstTimeVoterAt37 (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
33. For their families' sakes, I hope their houses never catch on fire |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
157. i dont give a damn if the guy votes libertarian |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #157 |
178. he gets farm subsidies from usda in two states, for corn, wheat and tobacco. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #178 |
184. because small farmers are not members of the working class? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #184 |
195. properties in two states suggest he's not a "small" farmer. that's your spin. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #195 |
291. he has kids and grandkids |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #178 |
330. Sounds like something a Tea Bagger would say. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #157 |
288. Exactly....Anyone who would "approve" an unfought house fire |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #157 |
379. Amen reggie, well said! |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
43. I'm no longer surprised by what I see here, EFerrari |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I assume they had insurance I think the insurance company |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
116. why doesn't the insurance policy require fire protection? the city fire department |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #116 |
153. This whole thing is weird to me, where I live all our fire |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #153 |
159. according to the records i've seen, city population = 2500, county = 32K. county has never |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #159 |
170. That is one strange situation, beyond my comprehension |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. "totally populated with people of the Teabagger mentality" |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #159 |
203. I'm hearing ya |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #116 |
162. the fact that they dont is the problem |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
150. Yeah - I'm sure that's cold comfort in the loss of their pets |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
115. so the firemen didn't "stand around & watch it burn". |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #115 |
148. Yes they did. They waited until the fire spread to the next property |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #148 |
181. no. they didn't respond to the first homeowner's call at all. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. ? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Our neighbor's house caught on fire a few years ago... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Cops weren't on the scene there.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. They would have to shoot me before I let anyone keep me from those dogs. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
145. the fire dept didn't respond to the call until the neighbor's place caught fire, so the |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. You don't know that the owners had the ability to save their animals. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. i know that if the fire took two hours to reach the house, they did, if they could walk. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #154 |
165. Deleted message |
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #165 |
174. i see you have no response to the facts & must resort to personal attack & redbaiting. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #174 |
187. how is he not working class? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #187 |
201. "working class" = wage workers. he works for himself as an owner = petit-bourg. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #201 |
258. i never said he could not afford 75 dollars a year |
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mommalegga (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #201 |
353. Yah just another "Kulak" who should be liquidated... |
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mommalegga (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #201 |
355. Double post |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #174 |
376. Well you just discredited yourself |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #165 |
186. the county has no fire service |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. so we agree |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #154 |
324. You know nothing about the details of where the fire started |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. This makes me sick. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
156. how could anyone WITH a "conscious" NOT pay for fire protection |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #156 |
331. So this is an appropriate punishment for not paying a $75 fee? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #331 |
362. it's not a punishment, it's a consequence of his own negligence n/t |
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kurtzapril4 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #156 |
352. I had a fire in my building |
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WeekendWarrior (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think what they did is criminal. nt |
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jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. k&r! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. K/R! |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. K&R |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. "Moral obligation" says it all. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Did the fire department in the article let any pets die? |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. When someone purposely evades taxes,everyone else has to make it up. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. They still could have billed him after the fact. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Life doesn't work like that. Pay for coverage after you need it? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Life works that way all the time. It's called good will and what distinguishes |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Exactly. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
67. Ding Ding |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
125. and when that policy was in place before the fee system, more than half of the county residents |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
380. Amen! Enough of the de-evolving that comes with the sick |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
384. You are absolutely right. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
62. That's precisely how ambulance service works where I live. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
63. They wouldn't just bill 75. They would bill the cost of the putting out the fire, just like if you |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
126. that was the previous policy. more than half the county residents who made fire calls |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
70. This isn't insurance |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
163. Thank you. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
190. it's a city (pop 2500) fire dept, not a county (pop 32K) fire dept. it has no obligation to fight |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #190 |
265. Attaching liens is simple |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #265 |
356. You can ONLY put a lien if someone lets you |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
381. Some of the responses make it feel more like "Brownshirts Underground" |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
103. Mike? Is that you? |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #103 |
143. Why do you jump to this? I think the US should have universal health care. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #143 |
386. Should people who have no coverage be treated in the ER? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
192. life does too work that way |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
220. In the end, that is the best solution. |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
328. You're talking about insurance. This is a fee (tax) not insurance. |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
332. A fee is a tax. Seriously. It wasn't an insurance policy. nt |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. What sense would billing after the fact make? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
139. billing after the fact was the previous policy. more than half of the county residents |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
199. They did 3 years ago when they set another fire at another of their homes |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #199 |
217. i keep hearing they'd already had a previous fire. do you have a link for that? |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #217 |
304. Here ya go |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
409. they tried billing afterthe fact, and hardly anyone paid. thats why the $75 fee came about. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
247. and in this case, 2,500 city residents supporting 32K county residents, |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
329. Looks like Glenn Beck agrees with you! Aren't you proud?!" |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. It's not civilized to stand by while someone loses everything over $75... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. No. What would be unconscionable |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
71. Such drama |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
105. No, it doesn't. They're not even in the same state. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #105 |
130. i agree. the poster tries to paint the city as enacting libertarian policies when it's the county |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
216. Exactly. They're lucky fire department simply didn't tell them to go pound sand in the first place. |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #216 |
286. They counld have thrown matches at it... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
300. You'd lose that bet. |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. Disgusting.. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. On Countdown, the same FD, according to the homeowner, allowed a barn with horses to burn |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. And yet 86% of DUers who voted in this poll blamed the owner or his county government .. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. .... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
66. What has happened to DU? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
134. DLCers, Republican trolls and paid propagandists are very good at getting on threads quickly to try |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #134 |
278. That's pretty funny you say that since one of the people defending this action |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #278 |
334. I'm not seeing the connection? This is MY opinion. Why is it |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #334 |
347. I didnt reply to you, I replied to the person who said RWers were the ones defending this |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #347 |
363. Okay, sorry, my mistake then. And btw |
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meeshrox (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
264. What I don't understand is why the FD even CHECKED if he was on a list or not before they left! |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
196. 57% blame the county for its shit policy |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
31. That makes me seriously want to vomit. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
37. People need to return to the agreement that sometimes taxes are necessary. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. People need to return to the agreement that sometimes humanity is necessary. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. The fire department can't work for free. It just can't. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. False premise. They could have saved the house and billed. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Then why have this stupid arrangement in the first place? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You're not an emergency worker, are you? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You don't live near a community of teabagger type right wing whackadoodles do you? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:36 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I live in a rural area surrounded by all kinds of people. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Did they vote down a measure to fund any vital services? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. You don't take it out in lives and property. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It's even more wrong to take it out on the citizens of the city they serve |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. No one is advocating what you suggest. n/t |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. That is exactly what is being suggested. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Nope. People are suggesting that the way to resolve this issue |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:22 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. And the way they're suggesting it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:25 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. No, it doesn't mean that and that has been explained to you over and over again. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Yes, it's been explained to me. They're apparently supposed to just keep working for free. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:04 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. No they are not. They could bill thousands if they had to put out a non-subscriber's fire. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
140. It's not just this one man's house. It's the cost to provide service |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #140 |
404. They can charge for the fire, AND the proportional cost of the truck, maintenance, etc. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
225. uninsured motorists have to pay because there are state laws with enforcement. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
306. They tried that |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #306 |
405. Then they can sue, just like hospitals do. n/t |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #405 |
411. No, actually they can't. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
205. if i could save my neighbors house |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
335. They are not working for free. Give it a rest. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
124. there have been multiple attempts to resolve it. two attempts to establish a volunteer fire dept in |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #124 |
200. so the county reps duped a bunch of yokels |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #200 |
219. lol. you're really reaching. do you think the man couldn't afford $6 a month, or not? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #219 |
248. you assume the county officials work for the people |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #50 |
385. So, what lesson was learned from letting the house burn and |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #42 |
82. Yeah, |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
281. Lately, I have wondered if it really is liberal any more. |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
93. "It makes no sense for this fire department to show up anyway and fight the fires." |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
86. Except they were doing that |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
111. that was the previous arrangement, & more than half the people in the county who got their fires |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #111 |
327. Glenn Beck agrees with you... aren't you proud? |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
114. problem there is that the fire department has no authority to actually collect it |
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Salviati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
333. And an equal number of people also brought up the fact that this is what they used to do... |
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
40. Kick and Rec!!!! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
48. USA! USA! USA! |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Better goes and talks to the House of Representin' bout this. |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. dupe |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
55. Please provide the link on letting animal die that weren't dead already |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:30 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. IMO, without evidence either way, the animals would have died |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
57. K&R |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
65. They are Republicans. So we should not be surprised. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
68. The bank probably owned it before the fire |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
69. I cannot believe anyone is actually defending this. |
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katnapped (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Wait until the police start doing this! |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
206. exactly |
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Trekologer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:12 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I don't think it is a good idea but something needs to tip the scale |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
100. Neither can I. I'm completely speechless. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #100 |
177. And I especially can't believe some of the DUers defending it... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
209. dont leave, please dont leave |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #209 |
394. I am not planning on leaving, I think the progressive/liberal wing |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
74. I read these threads with some amazement |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
212. we are not suddenly outraged |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
75. Those firefighters are pieces of shit. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
76. Everyone who thinks this is justified in the name of money is disgusting |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:17 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I've felt the same way many times on DU |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
214. i cant believe how many people here |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Don't let anyone tell you |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
202. god damned right you are!!! |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
337. Nice try however... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
77. I can't beleive people are actually defending this shit. |
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blue_roses_lib (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #77 |
194. +1. nt |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
215. there is no way the people defending this are liberals or progressives |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #215 |
341. Oh give it a rest. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #341 |
401. liberals are not saints |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
78. The teabaggers' libertarian paradise |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
80. If the people of Obion County are upset by this, they can tax themselves enough |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
81. It's disgusting |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
84. just curious, how did the fire start? |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
85. As a former volunteer firefigher in a rural area |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I know guys in San Francisco |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Right. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. your out of line and over the top |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #94 |
137. "They were following orders" |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. I don't believe you are out of line- I don't |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #144 |
169. because those people are part of a collective that funds fire services |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #137 |
168. This is a small city fire department that offers extended service to people |
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Citizen Kang (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #88 |
348. This is over the top |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #348 |
389. I'm not your pal |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
138. WORD ! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #85 |
382. ... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
89. you should blame the douche who didnt pay |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. On Countdown he said he forgot. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. one of the most recent articles quoted him as saying that he was refusing to pay |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. he lied. he was quoted as saying he thought they would put out fire even if you didnt pay. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #95 |
132. "I thought they'd come out and put it out, even if you hadn't paid your $75, but I was wrong," |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. yup |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
218. so to teach him a lesson about the importance of 75 dollars |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #218 |
223. Or, to show him that collective community services are worth while enough |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #223 |
244. so let a family lose everything to teach a lesson???? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #244 |
254. Its not an opt out law. Its an opt in service |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Does $75 make a fire less mortally dangerous? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. It makes it an obligation |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. I see putting out a fire as an obligation no matter who paid what. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #118 |
131. well, thats the part of your assumption that isnt true. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Public servants serve the public, no matter who's on record for having |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #135 |
164. Those people are outside the area of responsibility for those public servants |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #164 |
172. The FD served the area under subscription. It doesn't serve the neighbors |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #172 |
239. well, outside of municipality |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #239 |
311. Bullshit on the insurance argument--insurance is generally for profit, it's |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #311 |
396. nope is exactly the same |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #172 |
273. That's just wishful thinking, unsubstantiated by fact and law. If |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #273 |
305. What? What is wishful thinking? Everyone can tell everyone they owe |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #305 |
399. And this issue had already been dealt with |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #273 |
398. the actual number of non payers is 70% |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
222. i teach kids and i never ask if their parents pay taxes |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #222 |
226. If your services where subscription based |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #226 |
237. yes |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #237 |
240. yeah, the part where you are mistaken is the belief that this was a tax. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #240 |
243. i know it is not a tax |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #243 |
246. do you want a fucking cookie |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #246 |
250. move out of the usa and you will see it for the shithole it is |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
211. Bullshit. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #211 |
242. nope, its the truth. |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #89 |
390. Got it, Glenn |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #390 |
400. This guy is one of these no tax people |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #89 |
391. Thanks, Glenn |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
92. Sometimes a tragedy is needed so that people understand the importance of social goods |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. I feel bad for you... |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #96 |
160. No kidding! |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #96 |
197. Thank you for your thoughts and feelings. |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #197 |
207. As a resident of the city |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #207 |
224. Bad things have happened to me and mine, and, I'm sure, shall again happen. |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #224 |
229. As a county resident they pay taxes too... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #207 |
257. they are not residents of the city |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #257 |
283. VOLUNTEER fire departments. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #283 |
299. The equipment didnt volunteer |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #299 |
322. I disagree... |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #322 |
358. The "appropriate authority " was his COUNTY Government, which refused to provide the service |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #322 |
395. It is probably more about this douchbags disdain for collective public service |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Or not. He said he forgot to pay. That may even be true. -nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. he had said earlier he didnt pay because he thought they would come out anyway |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. No. Really, a tragedy is not needed. Especially when the manpower |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Maybe the "example" tragedy will hit a little closer to home next time. nt |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. On some level I agree with you. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
129. I saw that interview. The did not speak of politics, Parties nor |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
227. you should still call |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #227 |
262. The Cranicks own Gene Cranick Farms. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #262 |
271. gene cranick farms |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #271 |
290. Very true. My point is just that |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #290 |
292. i am with you 100% on that |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
102. It doesn't have to be either/or. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Or, simpler still, the county can charge the taxes/fees on everyone. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Didn't they already put that up for vote? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. True, but I was responding to what I thought was best -- |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Ah, okay. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #108 |
228. voted down by the county reps who are bought and paid for |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #102 |
122. the problem is the separate jurisdictions, county & city. the city residents can't "vote" |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. I'm so happy we don't have that "county" bullshit here. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #128 |
370. No municipality in this area |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
112. They should have put the fire out... |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. ok, they put out the fire, send a bill to the owner |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Then you get a judgement against the homeowner... |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #121 |
141. That sounds wonderful, but how exactly do you propose that |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. I guess if the Fire Department shows up... |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Sure - if the homeowner gives them permission, then they |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #146 |
213. they used to bill the residents after they'd put out the fires. more than half of them never paid. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #146 |
307. Can't sign the contract in that situation |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #121 |
142. 50% of the people opt out on payment. leaving the local taxes from city to pay. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #121 |
147. 75% of calls to the municipal fire depts are from outside, & under the previous |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #147 |
406. Majority of 32K people don't to have a fire dept? |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #119 |
161. So what? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #161 |
231. not only that |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #112 |
155. Perhaps the next time the South Fulton TN fire department |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #112 |
189. Totally agree, this is social regression at its finest. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
117. What if it was homeless family in an abandoned home |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
171. Yes. After ensuring no human life was in danger. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #171 |
295. Yes, squatters. |
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120. Deleted message |
ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
123. Awful. K&R. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
133. being human comes ahead of politics- we treat others the way we |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #133 |
166. The city in Kentucky paid taxes to support their CITY fire... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #166 |
176. south fulton is in tennessee. fulton is in kentucky. looks like they're effectively one city. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #166 |
179. so they even had time to get the fuckin animals out and this is who the people on du defend |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #179 |
284. I don't 'defend' the landowners who didn't get the animals out |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #284 |
308. a ity in another state is funding the FD. if 50% of the other county puts no money in, that drains |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #308 |
316. I don't agree with you, and in MY opinion the democratic principal |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #316 |
317. what good does it do anyone when this cities FD is no longer functional to provide service to anyone |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #317 |
320. the fire dept is obviously able to respond - they did for the person |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #320 |
323. then we agree adn with many of the people on du. there should not be opt in/out |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #166 |
234. am i a free rider because i am so poor |
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ShroomDuke (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
175. No mention of pets burning to death in "Conservative Corporate Media Cartel" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #175 |
180. especially since it took TWO HOURS for fire to reach house. adaquit time to get animals out. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #180 |
210. Wow two hours to reach the house... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #210 |
233. His son was burning in the yard -- knowing there was no fire protection. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #233 |
266. there are no real fire codes in the rural areas |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #266 |
357. Lets' not make this a "bash rural people" issue, |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #233 |
267. do you have a link on that ? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #267 |
289. here's one: (reports it was a grandson burning rather than the son who assaulted the chief) |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #289 |
408. Thanks, Hannah. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #175 |
221. "someone" = the man's son -- you know, the guy who started the fire by burning on the property -- |
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LTX (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #175 |
241. I'm kind of puzzled about the pets burning to death, too -- |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
182. arent we a bunch of dummies. fire out in back yard. why the hell didnt owners get their animals out |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #182 |
235. i am a liberal socialist and i dont tell "dummies" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #235 |
252. the stupidity is in US on DU buying they couldnt get their OWN pets out of house before the BURNED |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. perhaps they got the grandkids out |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #253 |
256. wow... all kinds of excuses allowing pets to burn alive. the fire was well out into the yard |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #256 |
260. deal with issue and expect no help???? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #260 |
263. if it was my neighbor i would have been in the house getting em too, but probably pull gun for |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #263 |
272. that actually made me laugh! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #272 |
275. my treat.... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #235 |
269. Then send these people $75 dollars. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. ya... all us liberals can send these 50% of county teabaggers 75 bucks to pay their way |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #270 |
280. the county should never make public services |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #280 |
310. we agree. 2008 they did a report stating .13 from all would ensure service for all. |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #270 |
339. Oh, so it's because they are Tea Baggers. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #339 |
360. i willingly and happily pay my taxes adn thank the services i receive. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #269 |
274. give me their adress |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #274 |
277. Sounds dangerous, they woudl probably burn their house down smoking it |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:01 PM Original message |
well that would be a bummer man..... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
296. or a pipe made from a carrot |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #296 |
297. those are great |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
183. What about organized capitalism don't you understand? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #183 |
230. completely mistaken comparison. A city of 2500 assesses taxes to fund a fire department |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #230 |
303. Not at all, the fact is they should have put the fire out. The petty amount |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
191. I think the FD should be morally or ethically obligated. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #191 |
282. What if Martians invade tomorrow? You can play ":what if" |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #282 |
319. Bad law. |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
236. link please |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
255. Agreed |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #255 |
285. A little courtesy and an unpaid bill for some thousands of dollars |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
261. No, the Owner did. House burned for over 2 hours before the |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #261 |
287. How do you come to this conclusion? The pets might have been dead in 5 |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
302. Cats and dogs aren't worth the risk to a single firefighter. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #302 |
383. Firefighters put out fires all the time when NO living thing is inside |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 05:46 AM Response to Reply #383 |
388. The warehouse owner paid for fire protection |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
312. Poor animals |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #312 |
342. It's not insurance. It's a fee paid to the government thus a tax. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
314. Poor animals.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #314 |
318. the fire was way out in back yard. took lots of time to get to house. why didnt owner get animals |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #318 |
350. If that's the case, shot |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #318 |
403. I wish the dude had |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
326. Crassus would have been so proud of the (ahem) fire department nt |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
336. That was my first thought--What if the guy had had pets? That's just |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
338. More proof that Capitalism does not work. |
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ebt12 (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
343. People have stopped beng human over money a long time ago |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
345. Olbermann did a nice job interviewing the man. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #345 |
361. just a guy, that left animals in house to burn? the fire was well out in his back yard |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
354. Kick |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
359. There is no excuse for this |
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midsummer (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
364. Social Darwinism has no place in civilized society |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #364 |
372. I absolutely agree! |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #364 |
393. Quit paraphrasing William Jennings Byran in the Scopes Monkey Trial |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
365. KICK and RECOMMENDED MOST HIGHLY |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
368. I can't believe people here defend this. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
369. Fucking america. What a joke your are these days. |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
371. This same type of "law" was in effect in Belgium. . .400 years ago! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
373. K&R |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
374. Since when? Reagan. And apparently the New Reaganites are right here |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #374 |
378. the fire was way out in back yard. the owner coul easily have gotten animals out of house |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #378 |
410. Something's fishy. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
387. Whether they had a moral obligation to put out the fire misses the big picture |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
392. The guy who didn't pay the $75 should be kicking himself |
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kerkes (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
402. There's no legal obligation by South Fulton Fire Department but there is an ethical obligation |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
407. sounds like a libertarian type of set up |
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