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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 02:47 PM
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Anti-evolution zombies linking climate change denialists to prove their "point"
It was bound to happen.

Right Wing Superstitionalistas have been saying that the Bible was correct by saying the Universe was created in seven days by some Guy with a long white beard, his long-haired, bearded son with supernatural powers who hangs out with a whore and a lot of fishermen and a bird that resembles a dove with a feather in its beak about 5,000 years ago.

That's right, no pun intended. Science be damned, literally. The heck with proof.

Evolution never happened, according to these zombies.

And now, with the high school dropouts like Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh (and the legion of racist, homophobic swine who "believe") who can't figure out that weather patterns in their town is different than climate, there is a new "movement" to show that since climate change doesn't exist after some snow storms recently, then there must have been no evolution either! Get it! Science is bad! Evil!



“Our kids are being presented theories as though they are facts.”
State Representative (R) Tim Moore of Kentucky

Let's see how this asshat is wasting time as well as others with a severe case of The Stupids nationally:

State Representative Tim Moore, a Republican who introduced the bill in the Kentucky Legislature, said he was motivated not by religion but by what he saw as a distortion of scientific knowledge.

“Our kids are being presented theories as though they are facts,” he said. “And with global warming especially, there has become a politically correct viewpoint among educational elites that is very different from sound science.”

(snip)

In Kentucky, a bill recently introduced in the Legislature would encourage teachers to discuss “the advantages and disadvantages of scientific theories,” including “evolution, the origins of life, global warming and human cloning.”

The bill, which has yet to be voted on, is patterned on even more aggressive efforts in other states to fuse such issues. In Louisiana, a law passed in 2008 says the state board of education may assist teachers in promoting “critical thinking” on all of those subjects.

Last year, the Texas Board of Education adopted language requiring that teachers present all sides of the evidence on evolution and global warming.

Oklahoma introduced a bill with similar goals in 2009, although it was not enacted.

The linkage of evolution and global warming is partly a legal strategy: courts have found that singling out evolution for criticism in public schools is a violation of the separation of church and state. By insisting that global warming also be debated, deniers of evolution can argue that they are simply championing academic freedom in general.

(snip)

In South Dakota, a resolution calling for the “balanced teaching of global warming in public schools” passed the Legislature this week.

“Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant,” the resolution said, “but rather a highly beneficial ingredient for all plant life.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/science/earth/04climate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all


So what's the danger? Creationist zombies like denying science because perhaps their IQs are below 80 and thinking just hurts their little heads.

Actually, schools books are at stake with getting the Climate Deniers who just so happen to be Creationist zombies deciding what needs to included (or not) in school curriculum initiatives that will affect the next ten years:

...Joshua Rosenau, a project director for the National Center for Science Education, began noticing that attacks on climate change science were being packaged with criticism of evolution in curriculum initiatives.

He fears that even a few state-level victories could have an effect on what gets taught across the nation.

James D. Marston, director of the Texas regional office of the Environmental Defense Fund, said he worried that, given Texas’ size and centralized approval process, its decision on textbooks could have an outsize influence on how publishers prepare science content for the national market.

“If a textbook does not give enough deference to critics of climate change — or does not say that there is real scientific debate, when in fact there is little to none — they will have a basis for turning it down,” Mr. Marston said of the Texas board. “And that is scary for what our children will learn everywhere.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/science/earth/04climate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all


Gee, what would Sarah Palin think? In her "Going Rogue", she (or her writer) screed:

“I didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.”

"Going Rogue", pages 217 to 219


And what would the half-governor Queen of Quit think about climate change and global warming?

We knew the bottom line . . . was ultimately to shut down a lot of our development. And it didn’t make any sense because it was based on these global warming studies that now we’re seeing (is) a bunch of snake oil science.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/10/palin-snake-oil/













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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 02:54 PM
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1. Nasa does not agree with FOX NOISE.
More at link:

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=270

02.23.10
By Patrick Lynch
NASA's Earth Science News Team
That feeling of numbness in your toes, even inside your thickest boots, is not lying to you. It's been very cold so far this winter in most of the U.S. and many places at middle latitudes in the Northern Hemisphere. Washington, D.C., London and Seoul have already shoveled themselves out from major snowfalls. And over the course of 2009, average temperatures across some parts of the U.S. were cooler than the average temperature for a baseline period of 1951-1980.

To many people's confusion, these weather events happened against a backdrop of increasing man-made greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere that are gradually warming the planet. But scientists stress this weather does not mean that those gases are no longer exerting a warming influence. Nor does it go against the grain of basic global warming theory. Cold snaps and bouts of natural cooling that could last years are expected naturally even as the climate continues on a long-term warming trend, forced by man-made emissions.

It's snow joke
So, what has been going on out there these past few months? As for the Arctic winter weather, it is exactly that — Arctic. A pattern of high sea-level pressure over the Arctic has led to weaker westerly winds that typically pin cold air closer to the North pole. According to John M. Wallace, an atmospheric sciences professor at the University of Washington, the weakened jet stream has allowed cold Arctic air to creep into more southern latitudes over the U.S., Canada, Europe and Asia.



United States: The same pattern with the Arctic Oscillation brought harsh winter conditions to the United States as well. Snow blanketed the East Coast just days before Christmas. Nearly two feet of snow covered the Washington, D.C. area. Image courtesy of NASA, MODIS Rapid Response Team.
This pattern of pressure is called the "Arctic Oscillation." The oscillation comes in two phases: a "negative phase" where there is relatively high pressure over the North pole and low pressure at the mid-latitudes (at about 45 degrees North); and a "positive phase" in which this pressure system is reversed. This winter, the Arctic Oscillation has been in an extremely negative state. This has caused unseasonably cold air masses to sweep over what are normally temperate latitudes, and unusually mild air masses to be brought in over much of the Arctic itself, Wallace explained.



"The unseasonable temperatures have been accompanied by well-above-normal sea-level pressure in the Arctic, especially over the Atlantic sector. That's how scientists characterize the Arctic Oscillation," Wallace said. "Winter isn't over yet, we're barely to the halfway mark. But this will be a winter to remember because of the Arctic Oscillation."
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:03 PM
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2. The electric universe theorist is taking issue with anti-science positions?
How droll.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:54 PM
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4. There will come a day when your stance will be considered highly
anti-science sir pron.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:37 PM
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5. Furthermore, NASA does not agree with its own understanding
of solar mechanics.

Charged particles have apparently become bunched along the ribbon near the boundary, says McComas, but how they got there “is still a big mystery. Our previous ideas about the outer heliosphere are going to have to be revised." “I’m blown away completely,” says space physicist Neil Murphy of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. “It’s amazing, it’s opened up a new kind of astronomy.”




"The expectations of NASA scientists are not being met because their shock front model is incorrect. The boundary that Voyager has reached is more complex and structured than a mechanical impact.” —Wal Thornhill, September 2006.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:04 PM
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3. This is the natural consequence of decades of Creationists pushing their shit in schools.
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 03:05 PM by HiFructosePronSyrup
A lot of people don't take it seriously, thinking that Creation vs. Evolution is some sort of pointless philosophical/academic debate.

How wrong they are.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 08:42 PM
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6. “I didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish
that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.”

Guess what Sarah, I don't believe that either. But that is not the same as saying that humans, monkeys, and yes, fish have a common ancestor if one goes back far enough. Not to mention the trees the monkeys were swinging in.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 09:03 PM
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7. Obviously, this is a disturbing development- and needs to be met with a shap response
My choice on these matters hasn't changed much over the years. Fundamentalist absurdity needs to be met with ridicule and derision- not pandered to, enabled and legitimized as is al too often been the case (and which is one major reason why America finds itsELF in this position- whereas other western nations assuredly DO NOT).

One might also add in a quote by cognitive scientist and political behavior researcher Drew Westen:

We are supposed to be the party of science, yet we constantly practice political creationism...
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