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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:03 PM
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How does someone so sexist and vile have a "love child"?
It seems quite contradictory.

Groping women and forcing yourself on them just doesn't strike me as love, it's more like assault. Especially if the guy is your boss!

The media has this all wrong. Not that it's surprising or anything.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:05 PM
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1. Republicans have "love children". Democrats have "illegitimate children" or "bastards"
Didn't you get the memo?
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TimLighter Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:06 PM
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2. Makes you wonder what Shriver's motives were
or maybe she was raised around men like that.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:08 PM
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4. She didn't know about the child until recently.
When he told her, she moved out.

Or are you making some other point?

:shrug:
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TimLighter Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:11 PM
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9. How could she not have noticed that he was sexist and vile?
That was the original question. Maybe that's what she thought was the normal way for men to act.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:14 PM
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13. I don't know how things were between them...
I doubt she thought he was vile.

It's really difficult to know what goes on inside a marriage, even a public one like theirs...

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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:20 PM
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18. Or perhaps like many other intelligent women, she believed he had changed?
I mean, lots of men (and women) have a history as a single person that some would consider promiscuous or wild.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:08 PM
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6. Please elucidate. Are you asking why she married him?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:09 PM
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7. Did the anti-Kennedy opportunity make you peek out from under the bridge? n/t
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:17 PM
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15. Well duh ... yes she was "raised around men like that" but what is your point
since she left him and showed she wouldn't put up with it. You brought it so what about "motive", what are you trying to get at?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:14 PM
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24. What?????
Can you clarify?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:06 PM
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3. Good point. The maid may be just as much a victim
as Maria. Hope she comes forward and explains herself.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:15 PM
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25. Seems unlikely to me.
Edited on Tue May-17-11 10:16 PM by wickerwoman
Would you keep working for *14 years* for someone who sexually assaulted you? Would it have been that hard to get another housekeeping gig in 1997?

As much as I have absolutely no sympathy for Arnold, there doesn't seem like much evidence here that the woman is a victim of anything except terrible taste in men.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:08 PM
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5. The sad thing is the media and his wife protected him when
these allegations first surfaced, the groping and womanizing I mean. And as a result the kept him in the Governor's mansion. Makes you wonder why his wife is leaving him now. Didn't she know what he was up to while he was Governor? Was the position that important to her?

California would have been far better off had he just stepped down. But that's just my opinion, we'll never know what might have been.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:10 PM
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8. I'm pretty sure she has said she wasn't told until recently.
At which point, she promptly packed her bags and left.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:17 PM
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16. Then she was out of the loop as his philandering was being
discussed each time he was up for reelection with women even coming forward to tell of their experiences. But true, there was no talk of a 'love child' and I believe he admitted to being a 'bad boy' who had cleaned up his act. So, it's possible she believed that, until the latest allegations. Sad for her and their children.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:14 PM
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14. If that story had come out back then, he'd have lost the election to Grey Davis.
He was enabled.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:11 PM
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10. perhaps it's sarcasm
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:13 PM
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11. They work for him so they are fired if they don't! His housekeeper and his stewardess both
women who probably need their jobs more than they need their self respect.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:13 PM
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12. I heard he saved her from an invisible evil in the jungles of south america
Come one, if someone saves your life from an invisible evil, you have to bang them, its in the rules.:rofl:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:18 PM
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17. Simple: He takes said penis and puts it in said vagina
it goes in and out a few times, sperm is released and 9 months later you get a product of both people's DNA

I'm surprised I have to explain this
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:34 PM
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19. I don't think the mechanics of the act are in question
It's the semantics of the terminology bandied about in the corporate media. 'Love child.' Seems like I heard that term deployed when Strom Thurmond was discovered to have committed statutory rape against a 15-year-old household employee, from which union a child was born.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:35 PM
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20. Precisely.
Thanks.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 06:36 PM
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21. Oh well that's very different....never mind
Edited on Tue May-17-11 06:37 PM by Taverner
On a serious note however:


Yes, Strom Thurmond RAPED his employee, and it has always bothered me that the media doesn't call it for what it is
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:11 PM
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22. That term does deserve to leave the lexicon
Also, I realize that all the political cartoonists and late night comedians are going to have their fun, but at the heart of this is a child who is old enough to see all the jokes. I hope the mother and her husband have taken the time (and Ahhnuld has borne the expense of) to find someone to help this innocent young person, who is now about to be the subject of a national chucklefest, through no fault of his/her own.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:12 PM
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23. I think "love-child" is meant to make the kid fool good. Better than being a "bastard."
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:17 PM
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26. I have only heard a few details of the story, but I thought it was conseneual
and went on for some time.
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