Glenn Beck is going to get someone killed. UPDATE with threat

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Glenn Beck is going to get someone killed. UPDATE with threat
by Fokozatos siker
Sat Jan 22, 2011 at 05:03:45 PM PST

Maybe that's his point. Is there a way under the law -- or protests, or whatever -- to stop this lunatic?

He's been going after Frances Fox Piven, a City of New York University professor, saying that she is responsible for a plan "to intentionally collapse our economic system."

So of course...now this 78 year old woman is getting death threats.

My GOD that man is a son of a bitch.

What did she do?

She wrote a plan to help poor people....FORTY FIVE YEARS AGO!!! That's right -- when Lyndon Johnson was president.

A complaint was filed with Fox Scumbag News saying they are putting her in danger.

Oh, no they're not, says Fox scumbag spokesman.

“ ‘The Glenn Beck Program,’ probably above and beyond any on television, has denounced violence repeatedly,” he says.

here is the link.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/business/media/22beck.html?_r=1&src=ISMR_HP_LO_MST_FB

And if she does get hurt -- gee, I'm sure they'll scream "wasn't us!!!"

UPDATE: Here is one of the threats...

“Somebody tell Frances I have 5000 roundas ready and I’ll give My life to take Our freedom back.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/22/938218/-Glenn-Beck-is-going-to-get-someone-killed.-UPDATE-with-threat

[somone]

1. And they had no problem shooting 9-year-old girls in Arizona

[Name removed]

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[phantom power]

2. you mean in addition to anybody he's *already* gotten killed?

[Zoeisright]

48. Including Dr. Tiller and all those people in Arizona, and the guard at the

Holocaust museum - etc. etc. etc.

[molly77]

52. What if a democrat was calling for the assassination of republicans

Think that could happen in the US? The FBI would be all over it. Suddenly there would be trumped up charges and smear campaigns. How long is this one sided hate fest going to go on? Nobody is saying fascism . And if they do allude to it, in a day or two tops they have to walk it back. But the right says anything and everything they want. Calling Obama a commie when every day he works for the fascist system which is America. IF he got out of line, he would be out of the WH in a heart beat and hillary would be installed.

[MadMaddie]

58. Let's go even more basic than that

What if it were a minority saying the things that Beck or Rush were saying and death threats came after statements like theirs?

The Law is not touching him because he is a white Christian man...sorry but that is the truth.

Remember the Black Panthers? They did some stupid shit yes....but a lot of what they did was make threatening statements against the establishment and individuals....anyone remember what happened to them in the 60's abd 70's?

Same type of rhetoric except Beck, Rush and the TeaPartiers remain untouched by law enforcement.

http://www.itsabouttimebpp.com/Chapter_History/BPP_Pieces_of_History.html


http://redwoodcurtaincopwatch.net/book/export/html/211

What Beck, Rush, Palin and the TeaPartiers are doing is leading to Civil Unrest and a threat to the country. What is it going to take before the law does something about it? This is not simply Free Speech anymore.....

[Richard Steele]

51. Quite right. nm

[The Wielding Truth]

53. He aims and others do it.

[Initech]

61. I was just gonna say that Dr. Tiller was a victim of the Fux News machine.

[nenagh]

3. What I want to know is how Beck's propaganda works on a brain..

Because it seems logical to me that a dupe listening to
Beck must become enraged faster and more and more completely as the months and years go by. :(

[mopinko]

12. people who watch beck are the ones who are already mad

all day every day. they are just looking for something, anything, to blame for their own internal turmoil.

[greiner3]

24. Reminds me of the soldier in Full Metal Jacket;

The one who was pushed too far by his drill instructor.

Bang, bang.

[MindPilot]

14. Hell, I "become enraged faster and more and more completely..."

just from reading DU...and no one on DU is telling me to shoot people.

[Plucketeer]

27. Yeah but....

.... the fact that you CAN read, and do so comprehensively, AND practice that skill at DU - disqualifies you from going out and shooting some convienent antagonist. :;):

[molly77]

54. Frances Fox Piven is an elderly professor.

She works for clean elections and the underprivileged. You know who first started targeting her and working up the propaganda? Andrew Breitbart who planned and directed the video that got ACORN defunded.
Andrew also has worked for Drudge and Huff Po.

Odd, such an neocon was on the ground floor designing and directing Huff Po.This month's issue of Vanity Fair.

[Initech]

20. I know people who think he's the real deal, and it's scary.

[Urban Prairie]

4. Looks like Dreckkk has declared an all-out rightwing "Gihad" on Ms. Piven n/t

[lonestarnot]

5. Charlie Manson motherfucker fathead.

[Initech]

22. Yeah he does have a bit of a Charles Manson esque mentality, doesn't he?

I'm waiting for him to start playing Helter Skelter.

[sam sarrha]

65. nothing wrong with him an Exorcism can't cure...

[pacalo]

6. Flood the FCC with complaints; they put them on the air.

[MindPilot]

16. The FCC has no regulatory power over Fox News.

The only control the FCC has over cable is technical standards; they can't enforce "decency" like they can as a condition of granting a station a license to broadcast.

On Edit, D'oh! It just occured to me that Beck has a radio show as well. So the FCC could regulate at least what he says on the AM waves.

[howmad1]

57. Ain't it interesting:

They sure can enforce decency. I have an amateur radio license and if I say shit, fuck, tit, etc. on the air, I get my license yanked in a heartbeat. If a little bit of tit is shown during Super Bowl, the Murkin people and the FCC go nuts. And yet, If Dreck says he'd like to kill someone on the air, he gets away with it - and gets more listeners. Fuckin FCC is more than worthless.

[annabanana]

62. I think what he does could be classified as shouting "FIRE" in

a crowded theater, thus not protected speech.

[bluevoter4life]

30. I've tried that with Limp-balls show. Twice actually

All I've gotten is a response of "We have found no threats of violence or sedition in his program and it protected by the First Amendment...."

[AsahinaKimi]

7. I saw an interview with Frances Fox Piven

She says she is not worried because she is surrounded by her lovely friends. She is, however dismayed by the kinds of rhetoric coming from the right..

[Capitalocracy]

8. Isn't the American citizen on the "kill list"

there for pretty much doing this? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Lint Head]

9. Beck has an audience full of KILLERS and by god he's gonna use them!

[Rex]

10. It is very interesting to watch which people the govt goes after and

which ones they don't. Glenn Beck is given immunity to what he says and his followers take that as a sign to act upon his violent tendencies toward innocent people. Real interesting.

[Swamp Rat]

11. Glenn Beck is apparently protected from the repercussions of his hate speech.

An average citizen who wears an anti-Bush t-shirt on a commercial airliner, for example, could get disappeared in Guantanamo.

[sce56]

13. Hey Swamp Rat, you did not have to draw him in there you could have just used his REAL PICTURE in

NAZI UNIFORM! No shit this is Glen posing for his Nazi sympathizers in full uniform!

[malaise]

15. It sure looks that way

Some very powerful people wants Glen Beck on air - if he were Muslim he would have been dragged off in chains to Gitmo.

gr.

[bongbong]

44. Keep the rabble divided

That is the reason Adolf Beck is still on the air. The PTB need lots of fear and anger, but they need to make sure it isn't directed at the people who caused it, i.e,. the billionaires and their employees (AKA legislators) in the repig & Democratic parties.

[Rex]

67. You would think the FBI would find him to be dangerous by now

all his talk about acts of violence.

[JohnnyRingo]

17. O'Reilly recently revealed his pet peeve with people like Piven

It's his money and what the government does with it.

He believes the govt doesn't have the right to spend it on people who "don't deserve it", either because he thinks they're too lazy to help themselves, or they foolishly created families too big to support independently. Either way, when he talks about "his money" he always defends it by stating that "he works hard for it" (unlike us?) and the government shouldn't be allowed to make charitable decisions for him. That O'Reilly is demonetizing someone for advocating govt help for poor people is no surprise, but his motive isn't for a better society, it's his wallet and the fact that he'd rather people die than his taxes go to help them.

I and others have used the same argument for war spending only to be told firmly "I can't pick & choose where my tax money goes", and that's true for both me and Bill O'Reilly. It is also true however, that O'Reilly's rhetorical greed could get someone killed without him missing so much as a night's sleep, and that's one big sorry difference between him and responsible citizens who differ with govt spending.

Oops, on edit I realized the article is about Beck, not O'Reilly, but I imagine the same two tone oxford fits either man well.

[SemperEadem]

47. it's my money, too--and considering I get taxed at a higher rate

than o'liar, I should have more of a say so about it than him---and I say I don't mind helping out people who are having a hard time through no fault of their own.

[AngryOldDem]

18. Just enough distance and plausible deniability if something does happen to this woman.

That's his (and others') MO. Get the dogs in a rabid frenzy then let them go while you deny that you opened the gate in the first place.

I wish there were a way to make him accountable for what he says. So much for any lessons learned from Tucson.

[myrna minx]

19. K&R n/t

[WillyT]

21. K & R !!!

:mad:

:kick:

[Initech]

23. Bill Maher was wrong. It's not just the NRA that's the " assassin's lobby".

It's a dangerous combination of the NRA and Fux News that's the real assassin's lobby. Here's a list of Fux-inspired killers:

http://m.bnet.com/blog/advertising-business/6-lunatics-inspired-by-fox-news-and-glenn-beck/6399

:yoiks:

[cbdo2007]

37. The NRA is just trying to make $$$. The problem is people like Beck, Palin, Limbaugh....

who are getting the crazies riled up with lies, hoping they'll USE their weapons. Really the NRA is only about selling guns, they aren't the ones telling people to use them and telling them who to target.

[Initech]

39. I'm not denying that.

What I'm concerned about is that the NRA is making it easier and easier to acquire guns. And this crap on Fox that's inspiring these people to go crazy has already cost a lot of lives. Beck and his ilk are getting the crazies fired up to the point where they use their easily-acquired weapons to act on it. Look at Jim Adkinsson - he killed people and said that Fux News made him do it. That scares the shit out of me. And that's what this list has presented.

[Fuzz]

25. Read a fr thread about this.

In the immortal words of eternal youth and my best attempt to feel your pain,let me say to Frances,"That is so mean and not fair!" But alas, just like the little child who hides under a table to escape a spanking because they aren't sophisticated enough to see the bigger picture, I'm sure you are very shocked to think your little secret to play master of the universe has been exposed.

My best advice, better get a security detail sweety... all "rulers" have to keep paid protection from the looneys and live somewhat isolated...sinks to be you now that part of your freedom has been stripped. I think someone said something about what goes around...

56 posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:13:57 AM by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)



“Dr.” Piven has been dispensing her mad theories from the safe, rarified ivy towers of Academia for years. I can’t imagine anyone as insolated from the chaos she advocates. Now, Mr. Beck has turned he spotlight on her and she cries unfair. Tough. It is well past time that Piven starts reaping the whirlwind of her ideas.

75 posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:41:39 AM by rbg81



“Far lefties, on the other hand, know full well what they are doing and use these idiots to advance their destroy America agenda.”

She IS the far left; no one is using her. She’s using what resources are available to her, cabals of leftists throughout academia, the media, churches, and legal circles that work together on their anti-America agenda. Don’t think for one minute that Pivens is being used. She’s a user and destroyer.

104 posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:44:29 AM by EDINVA

Sometimes if you are a bad person bad things happen.

113 posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:07:11 AM by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)



If she is in danger, she has only her own words to blame. I doubt she will even have to employ a fraction of the security that Beck must because of the true nature of the danger of the left.

130 posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:56:25 AM by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)



Thank you Glenn Beck, for making another pinko-commie squirm under the light of truth.

12 posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:47:20 AM by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)


A hit dog howls. The Right has been very cowardly in shining the light of truth on these Marxist cockroaches who have been sabotaging the nation for decades from their university covens. People, especially parents and taxpayers paying their salaries, need to know what these enemies of freedom have written and taught generations of students.
Right on, Glenn Beck and Roger Ailes! You are patriots.

16 posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:47:55 AM by kittymyrib



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2661436/posts

[Contrary1]

59. "If she is in danger, she has only her own words to blame."

Conservatives can use any words they want to incite the lemmings, and claim their innocence in doing so, yet it is this woman's own fault because of her words.

Right. How that can make sense, even in their own warped little minds is beyond me.

[Fuzz]

66. Shocking, but not surprising.

[StarsInHerHair]

68. they're the embodiment of hypocrisy

nt

[bbgrunt]

26. I really don't understand why he is NOT considered a domestic terrorist

If peace groups and Quaker sewing circles can be dogged by DHS, why can't anything be done about the likes of Beck?

[jillan]

31. +1

[StarsInHerHair]

69. oopsie, you just pulled the curtain back.....why indeed

nt

[dotymed]

28. I'm sure

beck has contributed to many attacks and deaths by RW nutjobs, already.

[SnakeEyes]

29. Saying that Frances plan was just to help poor people

is rather disingenuous. Makes me wonder if that person has actually read her article in The Nation. She also wrote an updated piece last month for the same publication.

[Jackpine Radical]

32. Therefore Beck is…pardon the expression…

On Target here?

[Hannah Bell]

35. gee, please enlighten us about the secret agenda.

could it have anything to do with pajama media's take on it?

"Professor Piven wrote, and The Nation published, an article calling for violent, angry protest."

[Hannah Bell]

33. "has denounced violence repeatedly" = these people are shameless fascists.

[Kat45]

34. I haven't heard Frances Fox Piven's name in years.

I think I read her about 35 years ago when I was in college. How the fuck did she end up on that despicable man's radar screen?

[Hannah Bell]

36. the targets of fascists aren't logical. the more illogical, the better. it's a form of terrorism;

randomness helps.

[femrap]

40. He's too afraid to

pick on anyone except older women. He's a coward. A pathetic waste of human flesh.

[cbdo2007]

38. Why doesn't she sue him? It's not protected speech to threaten people...

so she needs to go after everyone threatening her and if they're anonymous she should sue Beck. At least make an issue out of it.

[Zoeisright]

49. [phone]

Definitely the right thing to do.

[crim son]

41. I have never written to Pox News to tell them what I think of them.

It struck me as a useless exercise guaranteed to have no effect whatsoever. But maybe it's time I did and maybe if there are others like me, it's time for them to write too.

[Name removed]

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[RoccoR5955]

43. Beck needs a dose of his own medicine.

What if someone was to threaten him with violence? How would he feel about that.
What if someone actually attempted violence against him, in retort to his calling for violence?
How would that go over?

[paparush]

46. Beck Follower quote - ” The time for talk is over ! ..."

”The time for talk is over ! i stand with free people and my Lord Jesus, he has the ability to forgive. I do not. It will be ugly”.

Ah, sweet, beautiful, religion.

More sickness here:
http://www.laprogressive.com/the-media/glenn-becks-attacks-frances-fox-piven-trigger-death-threats/

[Stumbler]

50. < Defeatist

What does it matter at this point? One man calls for the killing of his opponents and not only remains on air, but earns fans... Another calls out others' hypocrisy, especially in "the name of the nation," and is kicked off the air for expressing an undesired truth.

Fuckitall... We've lost.

[Joe Bacon]

55. Beck will continue until his corporate masters no longer need him

It does not matter what Beck says. He is protected by his corporate masters because he incites others to do corporate dirty work. As long as he does what his corporate masters want, they will continue to encourage him and he will not be touched by the law.

[sam sarrha]

64. they will always need him and others like him.. because no same person can represent that filth

see post #63

[The Wizard]

56. Glenn bek Laden

is a domestic terrorist and should be labeled as such whenever his name is mentioned. Whenever the opportunity presents itself he should be spat on. Fuck the Nazi scumbag.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

60. Beck is raw evil

evil evil.

[sam sarrha]

63. you have no idea what is going on till you read this book.. a cult has taken over the GOP >Link>>

they profess that god and Jesus favor the rich.. wealth/power is proof of gods favor of a man, so it is a sin to tax a rich man/coporation... and the poor are being punished by god, so it is a sin to help the poor. good works make the poor worse off.. the only way a poor man can find salvation out of poverty is thru his accepting total submission to gods will... and how does he find out what is gods will is.?. well, gods self appointed representatives tell them what it is..

http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060559799/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1295836780&sr=8-1
read the Reviews it the link

http://www.insider-magazine.com/christianmafia.htm
"snip...After several months of in-depth research and, at first, seemingly unrelated conversations with former high-level intelligence officials, lawyers, politicians, religious figures, other investigative journalists, and researchers, I can now report on a criminal conspiracy so vast and monstrous it defies imagination. Using “Christian” groups as tax-exempt and cleverly camouflaged covers, wealthy right-wing businessmen and “clergy” have now assumed firm control over the biggest prize of all – the government of the United States of America. First, some housekeeping is in order. My use of the term “Christian” is merely to clearly identify the criminal conspirators who have chosen to misuse their self-avowed devotion to Jesus Christ to advance a very un-Christian agenda. The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have termed the major conspirators and it is not intended to debase Christians or infer that they are criminals . I will also use the term Nazi – not for shock value – but to properly tag the political affiliations of the early founders of the so-called “Christian” power cult called the Fellowship. The most important element of this story is that a destructive religious movement has now achieved almost total control over the machinery of government of the United States – its executive, its legislature, several state governments, and soon, the federal judiciary, including the U.S. Supreme Court.

The United States has experienced religious and cult hucksters throughout its history, from Cotton Mather and his Salem witch burners to Billy Sunday, Father Charles Coughlin, Charles Manson, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, and others. But none have ever achieved the kind of power now possessed by a powerful and secretive group of conservative politicians and wealthy businessmen in the United States and abroad who are known among their adherents and friends as The Fellowship or The Family. The Fellowship and its predecessor organizations have used Jesus in the same way that McDonald’s uses golden arches and Coca Cola uses its stylized script lettering. Jesus is a logo and a slogan for the Fellowship. Jesus is used to justify the Fellowship’s access to the highest levels of government and business in the same way Santa Claus entices children into department stores and malls during the Christmas shopping season...snip"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_(Christian_organization)
"snip...Jeff Sharlet and Andrea Mitchell have described Fellowship leader Doug Coe as preaching a leadership model and a personal commitment to Jesus Christ comparable to the blind devotion that Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, and Pol Pot demanded from their followers.<40><41> In one videotaped lecture series in 1989, Coe said:

Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler were three men. Think of the immense power these three men had...But they bound themselves together in an agreement...Two years before they moved into Poland, these three men had...systematically a plan drawn out...to annihilate the entire Polish population and destroy by numbers every single house...every single building in Warsaw and then to start on the rest of Poland." Coe adds that it worked; they killed six and a half million "Polish people." Though he calls Nazis "these enemies of ours," he compares their commitment to Jesus' demands: "Jesus said, ‘You have to put me before other people. And you have to put me before yourself.' Hitler, that was the demand to be in the Nazi party. You have to put the Nazi party and its objectives ahead of your own life and ahead of other people.<40><41>
National Prayer BreakfastFellowship Foundation is best known for the National Prayer Breakfast, held each year on the first Thursday of February in Washington, D.C.<36><31> First held in 1953, the event is now attended by over 3,400 guests including dignitaries from many nations. The President of the United States typically makes an address at the breakfast, following the main speaker's keynote address. The event is hosted by a 24-member committee of members of Congress. Democrats and Republicans serve on the organizing committee, and chairmanship alternates each year between the House and the Senate.

At the National Prayer Breakfast, the President usually arrives an hour early and meets with eight to ten heads of state, usually of small nations, and guests chosen by the Fellowship.<57><58..."[br />