Reply #204: I don't think that is what is at issue at all.

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Many people agree that the artists and even the record companies deserve to be paid. And that it is illegal to pirate music. And that those who do pirate music should be punished.

What is at issue is wither the fines for violation are excessive.

Let's say your child downloads a couple of albums illegally. That is a crime and he/she should be punished. As their legal guardian you would be responsible for damages etc. Assume 10 tracks per album at about $1 per track.

Obviously we all know you owe the companies $20 for the stolen tracks. And some money for legal fees and some punitive damages to prevent you from just going ahead and doing it hoping not to get caught.

The question is... what is a reasonable amount for all that other stuff.

Using the current numbers you would be responsible for between $15,000 and $300,000 just for those 20 tracks.

If a judge tried to give punitive damages like that to someone shoplifting two CDs I doubt it would hold up. They would rule it as excessive. Can you see a judge saying someone who shoplifted two CDs from walmart owed walmart $300,000 in damages?

I am not saying people should not be punished for breaking the law, but there is a legitimate question as to wither these judgments are reasonable. And keep in mind my example is just a couple of CDs with a MINIMUM of $15,000.