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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:14 PM
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63. In principle ...
I am opposed to any legislation that seeks to limit the access of people to the Courts. The right to file a lawsuit when we have been injured is our right. It makes me nervous when Congress tries to take away our rights.

There are sanctions available to the Courts when attorneys file frivolous lawsuits. Those are serious sanctions, and they should be enforced. A Congressional decree that limits the right of the people to seek justice through the Courts is a bad solution.

-Laelth

P.S. I hear Canada's not much colder than the Midwest. In fact, Vancouver is warmer, on average.

P.P.S. Did I mistakenly land in FreeRepublic? I could have sworn I was logged into DU.
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  -S 397, Gun Industry Protection Bill Passes House 283-144 Silverhair  Oct-20-05 11:07 AM   #0 
  - About time  saigon68   Oct-20-05 11:08 AM   #1 
  - gun makers shoudl be held responsible.........  uniden   Oct-20-05 11:11 AM   #2 
  - Did you read the last paragraph?  RebelOne   Oct-21-05 01:15 PM   #79 
  - This is welcome news.  D__S   Oct-20-05 11:18 AM   #3 
  - WOOHOO!  Township75   Oct-20-05 11:23 AM   #4 
  - politicians should focus on human nature?  maxsolomon   Oct-21-05 11:10 AM   #72 
  - I'm not taking a stance on this bill until I know more about this bill  bluestateguy   Oct-20-05 11:23 AM   #5 
  - Link to the bill on thomas.loc.gov...  Mithras61   Oct-20-05 11:28 AM   #6 
  - One of the best parts of the legislation...  D__S   Oct-20-05 01:01 PM   #17 
     - WOW! Yes, that will definitely affect future court fights.  Xithras   Oct-20-05 03:37 PM   #43 
     - Yes, it does, doesn't it? NT  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 03:49 PM   #46 
     - If it can't be infringed, I want my Tommy Guns and TOW missiles!  gulfcoastliberal   Oct-20-05 06:23 PM   #55 
        - Which model Thompson are you interested in?  D__S   Oct-20-05 06:57 PM   #56 
           - Wow - pricey. I'd rather get a sear that lets my VEPR go full auto.  gulfcoastliberal   Oct-20-05 07:06 PM   #58 
           - You know you can achieve the same thing...  D__S   Oct-20-05 07:19 PM   #61 
           - How to buy a machine gun:  gulfcoastliberal   Oct-20-05 07:11 PM   #59 
              - PS - That 1986 law - thank the gipper for that!  gulfcoastliberal   Oct-20-05 07:12 PM   #60 
              - "Hey Chief". "I have a great connection for Hellfire missiles".  D__S   Oct-20-05 07:25 PM   #62 
  - That is a function of the cartridge, not the gun.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 11:37 AM   #8 
  - Most any hunting rifle will defeat a vest. n/t  Wcross   Oct-20-05 01:39 PM   #24 
  - yes, what i want to know  shanti   Oct-21-05 01:29 PM   #80 
  - Stupid fucking bill  alarimer   Oct-20-05 11:35 AM   #7 
  - At least Bernie Sanders voted the right way on this bill  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-20-05 12:23 PM   #13 
  - The bill has nothing to do with illegal interstate traffic in guns  slackmaster   Oct-20-05 04:25 PM   #51 
  - Your right!  toopers   Oct-21-05 02:25 PM   #87 
  - This is great new; LONG overdue  SlipperySlope   Oct-20-05 11:40 AM   #9 
  - This is not the business of the lawmakers!  MindPilot   Oct-20-05 11:45 AM   #10 
  - The anti-gunners were abusing the system.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 12:19 PM   #11 
  - Bullshit....  MrBenchley   Oct-21-05 07:24 AM   #66 
  - It still costs companies money to defend these lawsuits  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-20-05 12:22 PM   #12 
  - Congress gives gun industry a lawsuit shield  Debau2005   Oct-20-05 12:25 PM   #14 
  - Some one IS held accountable - the actual murderer.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 01:26 PM   #20 
  - Another special exception  depakid   Oct-20-05 12:30 PM   #15 
  - Here's why.  D__S   Oct-20-05 01:15 PM   #18 
  - I think I asked for a rational reason  depakid   Oct-20-05 01:18 PM   #19 
  - It is mostly cities that are suing.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 01:32 PM   #22 
  - It's not that I think the gun industry should be given special treatment.  D__S   Oct-20-05 01:40 PM   #25 
  - And yet  PaulaFarrell   Oct-20-05 01:29 PM   #21 
     - Link Please. NT  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 01:35 PM   #23 
     - Here ya go  depakid   Oct-20-05 01:51 PM   #28 
     - That is not exactly an impartial site.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 02:35 PM   #35 
     - Here's another for you  PaulaFarrell   Oct-20-05 03:09 PM   #39 
        - Looks like McD is overreacting, in this case.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 03:31 PM   #42 
     - Just more proof that the legal system is out of control and needs fixing.  D__S   Oct-20-05 01:50 PM   #27 
        - That's a bogus assertion  depakid   Oct-20-05 01:53 PM   #29 
        - "Bogus assertion"?  D__S   Oct-20-05 02:14 PM   #31 
        - Punitive damages should go into a state fund  PaulaFarrell   Oct-20-05 02:34 PM   #34 
  - People giving up their civil rights  sandnsea   Oct-20-05 02:50 PM   #36 
     - All civil liability HAS NOT BEEN REMOVED.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 03:18 PM   #40 
        - It's just one step  sandnsea   Oct-20-05 04:10 PM   #48 
           - You will have a hard time reversing it.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 04:18 PM   #49 
  - Then they should countersue.  PunkPop   Oct-20-05 12:46 PM   #16 
  - The anit-gunners were very public about it awhen they started.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 01:48 PM   #26 
     - I read the link to the Brady site above  PunkPop   Oct-20-05 02:12 PM   #30 
        - Not true about safety.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 02:27 PM   #32 
        - Guns should be harder to use for anybody other than the person  PunkPop   Oct-20-05 02:52 PM   #37 
        - That technology does not exist.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 03:08 PM   #38 
           - Or in the commission of a crime  PunkPop   Oct-20-05 03:30 PM   #41 
           - I keep a SIG 220 in .45, loaded with alternating rounds  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 03:37 PM   #44 
           - Man, you must live in a really bad neighborhood n/t  MindPilot   Oct-21-05 10:43 AM   #69 
           - No. The criminal has time to plan. He has the initiave.  Silverhair   Oct-20-05 03:47 PM   #45 
           - Might i suggest 2 sticks.  TX-RAT   Oct-21-05 12:09 PM   #76 
              - Suggest whatever you want.  PunkPop   Oct-21-05 01:10 PM   #78 
           - It REALLY scares me...  FarceOfNature   Oct-21-05 09:54 AM   #68 
              - I own a fire extinguisher and smoke detectors  davepc   Oct-21-05 04:20 PM   #88 
        - And of course  CHestonsucks   Oct-20-05 03:52 PM   #47 
           - the Aussies and UK folks are "saturated" in illegal firearms  Romulus   Oct-20-05 04:22 PM   #50 
              - Yes, it's the phony English bloodbath again....  MrBenchley   Oct-20-05 05:59 PM   #54 
                 - England and Australia DO have a gun problem, just not a shooting problem  NickB79   Oct-21-05 01:03 PM   #77 
                    - Rubbish,,,,  MrBenchley   Oct-22-05 08:07 AM   #91 
                       - What does that response have to do with my point?  NickB79   Oct-22-05 01:16 PM   #95 
                          - Really, what more needed to be said?  MrBenchley   Oct-23-05 08:09 AM   #99 
        - You might also notice that manufacturers of other consumer products  MrBenchley   Oct-20-05 05:57 PM   #53 
  - Good job...  Jack_DeLeon   Oct-20-05 02:32 PM   #33 
  - What a disgracefully crappy bill....  MrBenchley   Oct-20-05 05:55 PM   #52 
  - Where can I find a list of who voted how on this bill?  hollowdweller   Oct-20-05 07:01 PM   #57 
  - In principle ...  Laelth   Oct-20-05 09:14 PM   #63 
  - Worth noting the gun industry IS your actual scum of the earth  MrBenchley   Oct-21-05 07:29 AM   #67 
     - Proof?  yppahemnkm   Oct-21-05 01:47 PM   #82 
     - Of course I do....  MrBenchley   Oct-21-05 07:14 PM   #89 
     - This was one reason many people voted for * IMO. Killing people is the  Conservativesux   Oct-23-05 03:39 PM   #105 
  - if a legal product is used illegally-  MarsThe Cat   Oct-20-05 09:19 PM   #64 
  - If a legal product is distributed and marketed irresponsibly  MrBenchley   Oct-21-05 07:22 AM   #65 
     - in case you can't tell-  MarsThe Cat   Oct-21-05 10:50 AM   #70 
        - In case you can't tell, I think the bill was a piece of shit  MrBenchley   Oct-21-05 07:17 PM   #90 
           - that's your...per-og-ative.  MarsThe Cat   Oct-23-05 10:37 AM   #101 
              - For now....  MrBenchley   Oct-23-05 01:35 PM   #102 
                 - why not try and sue a gunmaker, and find out...?  MarsThe Cat   Oct-23-05 03:16 PM   #103 
                    - Sounds good to me....  MrBenchley   Oct-24-05 08:05 AM   #109 
  - To the people complaining about inapporpriate gun marketing:  skipos   Oct-21-05 10:59 AM   #71 
  - Here's a perfect example of inappropriate marketing  slackmaster   Oct-21-05 11:57 AM   #73 
  - This is a joke, right.  yppahemnkm   Oct-21-05 12:02 PM   #74 
     - Affirmative  slackmaster   Oct-21-05 12:07 PM   #75 
     - Saved for posterity.  D__S   Oct-22-05 08:39 AM   #94 
     - Birdman is a joke site.  Zynx   Oct-21-05 01:39 PM   #81 
     - Hoax?  D__S   Oct-22-05 08:36 AM   #93 
  - Wow!  MrBenchley   Oct-22-05 08:19 AM   #92 
     - Gun safety training is inappropriate to you?  NickB79   Oct-22-05 01:24 PM   #97 
        - Nothing is ever too scummy for gun nuts, is it?  MrBenchley   Oct-23-05 08:03 AM   #98 
  - so gun owners can't sue if a child gets a hold of the gun  superconnected   Oct-21-05 01:48 PM   #83 
  - Nope  yppahemnkm   Oct-21-05 01:56 PM   #84 
  - If the gun were defective, then yes they can sue  NickB79   Oct-21-05 02:00 PM   #85 
  - Right  IA_Seth   Oct-21-05 02:10 PM   #86 
  - Perhaps people who actually need warning labels to realize the danger  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-23-05 09:32 AM   #100 
  - Guns without safeties are better guns  currents   Oct-23-05 04:16 PM   #107 
  - U.S. Gun Manufacturers Win Right to Sue Shooting Victims  IChing   Oct-22-05 01:20 PM   #96 
  - And minimum wage increases fail.  Darranar   Oct-23-05 03:21 PM   #104 
  - How to fix the problem....  Sgent   Oct-23-05 04:08 PM   #106 
  - How can they ban already filed suits?  Danmel   Oct-23-05 05:09 PM   #108 
     - Sounds like ex post facto to me  slackmaster   Oct-29-05 10:05 AM   #110 
 

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