Reply #11: Incorrect. I slept through western civ

[Pavulon]

but would not make that assertion. WW1 was started because of very complex geo-political situations in europe. If you want to start a thread on it we can however it is FAR to complex to discuss here. Short answer, umm no.

You are jumping around. The NATO treaty, which has been quite effective at preventing large wars, makes Iran relevant. The europeans are doing a fine job of handling the issue. My concerns are revolve around non-proliferation. Israel is an obvious actor in what will become a regional arms race in the event of a nuclear armed Iran. Egypt and the other states will not stand idle to a change in the position of Iran.

At NO POINT have I said the us should take military actions. However sanctions are reasonable for non-compliance, worked with north korea. They were a Kahn customer too..

Let the EU sort it out and back them is a wise position.