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Tue Nov-11-08 02:43 AM
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the LDS was up to their eyebrows along with the KoC, and the RCC.
the while lot of them need their tax exempt status revoked and taxed up the ass for 200 years back taxes! (only only 120 for the morons..er .. LDS)
at what point is it too much?
at what point do we finally say ENOUGH HATE FROM THE CHURCH!
the first amendment CLEARLY states the intent of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!
The IRS Tax code clearly states that churches are NOT ALLOWED TO BE POLITICAL!
for what it's worth, i know a lot of mormons, I LIKE most mormons, the one's I grew up with are decent people!
it's the CHURCH, that's fucking dangerous!!! like ALL "church"es.
I didn't mind that they used California as their breeding grounds, but this... the more I've found out about the LDS, the more I despise it. Their views towards blacks and other minority groups is INEXCUSABLE!!!
It is unacceptable that a people that were HUNTED, for CENTURIES (2? 1+?) would want to restrict ANYONE'S rights is appalling and pathetic. it's to absurd to be beyond laughable, and only rises to the level of pitiable.
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| -Lawmakers join call to overturn Prop. 8 |
DogPoundPup |
Nov-10-08 07:45 PM |
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Hooray! This is good news. |
123infinity |
Nov-10-08 07:48 PM |
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Most Excellent |
SoCalNative |
Nov-10-08 07:54 PM |
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Looks like O'Lielly gloated too soon on Franken AND this. |
carpentrerman |
Nov-10-08 07:59 PM |
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Like this one? |
Q3JR4 |
Nov-10-08 08:23 PM |
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LOL. That'll work! |
carpentrerman |
Nov-10-08 08:24 PM |
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This is good news |
LonePirate |
Nov-10-08 07:58 PM |
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K&R |
Maine-ah |
Nov-10-08 08:06 PM |
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Bravo! K&R |
Hepburn |
Nov-10-08 08:09 PM |
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Thanks lawmakers! |
Politicub |
Nov-10-08 08:13 PM |
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That's perfect. That sounds like a written law. Which, of course, it should be. |
kayakjohnny |
Nov-11-08 05:13 PM |
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Having read the pleadings, etc (former lawyer here) the chance this will be overturned is excellent |
scytherius |
Nov-10-08 08:16 PM |
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The LDS Church didn't donate money to support "yes on 8" |
CubicleGuy |
Nov-11-08 12:58 AM |
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church members were told "their souls would be in jeopardy" if they do not donate money |
FreeState |
Nov-11-08 02:42 AM |
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Mormons were told to contribute to the cause in Arizona as well. |
yardwork |
Nov-11-08 08:55 AM |
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links to back up your claim? |
comtec |
Nov-11-08 02:43 AM |
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It's not the CHURCH... it's PEOPLE |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 09:29 AM |
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It's not people, it's THE CHURCH(tm) |
comtec |
Nov-11-08 09:38 AM |
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The IRS Tax code clearly states that churches ARE ALLOWED TO BE POLITICAL! |
CubicleGuy |
Nov-12-08 04:29 PM |
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Fair point, I did hear that |
comtec |
Nov-13-08 02:27 AM |
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Correction: funds came from mormon congregations all over the country. |
Raster |
Nov-11-08 07:00 AM |
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Really? Check out this list |
nichomachus |
Nov-11-08 07:04 AM |
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Follow the Money...Follow the Link |
Rockholm |
Nov-11-08 08:40 AM |
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Nice to hear that from a "Professional" |
BlueJazz |
Nov-11-08 09:53 AM |
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I'm so glad to hear this |
wryter2000 |
Nov-11-08 12:27 PM |
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Excellent! This is looking better and better... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-10-08 08:24 PM |
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Hee Hee |
fascisthunter |
Nov-10-08 08:55 PM |
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I didn't see the numbers on this vote. was it even close or was it a blowout? n/t |
ladywnch |
Nov-10-08 09:17 PM |
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Overall it passed by about 5 points, around 52.3% to 47.7% or something like that. |
SurferBoy |
Nov-11-08 12:37 AM |
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No spouses for Gay people, but more than one for Mormon men. Make sense to me. |
olddad56 |
Nov-10-08 09:22 PM |
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Excellent point that should be put front and center |
goclark |
Nov-11-08 03:52 AM |
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the LDS church which promoted prop 8 does not support polygamy |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 09:19 AM |
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So....if Mormons can change their definition of marriage.... |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 09:49 AM |
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Wonderful point - you know why they did it? |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 10:03 AM |
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K&R |
fNord |
Nov-10-08 09:56 PM |
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K&R Who the hell do those Mormons think they are? |
bluesmail |
Nov-10-08 10:13 PM |
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K & R |
Mrspeeker |
Nov-11-08 12:11 AM |
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K&R nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-11-08 12:28 AM |
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Wonderul--!!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-11-08 12:32 AM |
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Good. |
jacobfloyd |
Nov-11-08 12:33 AM |
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NO MORMON MARRIAGES SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN CALIF |
YEBBA |
Nov-11-08 12:43 AM |
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As long as we're engaged in the world of fantasy... |
jwlashta |
Nov-11-08 06:05 AM |
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Don't forget, you'd have to wear "special" underwear. n/t |
VaYallaDawg |
Nov-11-08 09:03 AM |
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This is great news |
fourvahl |
Nov-11-08 12:43 AM |
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Overturn prop 8 or the mormon tabernacle choir gets it. |
bjobotts |
Nov-11-08 01:11 AM |
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Conflict and conversation-See how that works |
mentalslavery |
Nov-11-08 04:10 AM |
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Go argue with a rock. n/t |
ToolTex |
Nov-11-08 05:00 AM |
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What does that do? |
mentalslavery |
Nov-11-08 08:01 AM |
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I don't think you understand the purpose of DU. |
zipplewrath |
Nov-11-08 08:12 AM |
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I do understand the purpose of DU |
mentalslavery |
Nov-11-08 03:55 PM |
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it's perfectly reasonable to discuss how best to change people's minds here |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 09:33 AM |
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I totally agree... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-13-08 02:34 AM |
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It's very promising |
Vattel |
Nov-11-08 06:39 AM |
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Good news but . . . |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-11-08 07:03 AM |
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We have almost 2/3 in the legislature, but well under half of the voters |
slackmaster |
Nov-11-08 08:23 AM |
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Perhaps I am naieve, but i didn't realize... |
MiJaMu |
Nov-11-08 08:45 AM |
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You're right. You are naive that you didn't realize that marriage is a civil liberty. |
yardwork |
Nov-11-08 08:59 AM |
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What rock have you been hiding under? |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 09:10 AM |
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You are joking, yes? |
123infinity |
Nov-11-08 09:48 AM |
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Marriage can be both - |
haele |
Nov-11-08 10:03 AM |
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Oh well, live and learn. |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 10:11 AM |
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Nope. Religion does not own marriage. If it did, there'd be no married atheists/agnostics. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:34 PM |
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Look at it from a family point of view... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-13-08 02:41 AM |
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WooHoo !!! - K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Nov-11-08 09:42 AM |
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This is a terrible idea.... |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 10:05 AM |
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The only way the problem is going to be fixed is to change peoples' hearts and minds |
slackmaster |
Nov-11-08 10:09 AM |
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to change peoples' hearts and minds |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 10:21 AM |
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Good reply, AlbertCat and I think we need to remember something here |
slackmaster |
Nov-11-08 12:01 PM |
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Not at all. If it's unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional. There's no reason to tolerate |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 10:30 AM |
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The ballot initiative was approved by the CA Supreme Court |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 10:34 AM |
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Wrong. They did not approve this or any other initiative in advance. |
greeneyedboy |
Nov-11-08 10:47 AM |
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The ballot initiative process is spelled out.. |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 11:09 AM |
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Maybe I'm not reading closely enough, but I don't see anything in the initiative |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 01:57 PM |
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It's a revision, not an amendment, and is therefore invalid. |
greeneyedboy |
Nov-12-08 07:10 PM |
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A revision that takes away rights is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:38 PM |
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The the court will say so, won't it? |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 01:33 PM |
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That's aboslutely untrue. They did NOT approve it in advance. That is a lie. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:36 PM |
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Civil rights often come from court cases. |
greeneyedboy |
Nov-11-08 10:49 AM |
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Like the Kelo case? |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 11:10 AM |
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Or like Loving v Virginia. |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 01:38 PM |
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Boy, it's a good thing MLK didn't listen to advice like yours. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:35 PM |
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You don't understand what happened... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-13-08 03:04 AM |
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Awesome |
wryter2000 |
Nov-11-08 12:26 PM |
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It will be overturned.,. heard it here first :) |
wroberts189 |
Nov-12-08 04:51 PM |
#74 |
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