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Tue Nov-11-08 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #40 |
| -Lawmakers join call to overturn Prop. 8 |
DogPoundPup |
Nov-10-08 07:45 PM |
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Hooray! This is good news. |
123infinity |
Nov-10-08 07:48 PM |
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Most Excellent |
SoCalNative |
Nov-10-08 07:54 PM |
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Looks like O'Lielly gloated too soon on Franken AND this. |
carpentrerman |
Nov-10-08 07:59 PM |
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Like this one? |
Q3JR4 |
Nov-10-08 08:23 PM |
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LOL. That'll work! |
carpentrerman |
Nov-10-08 08:24 PM |
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This is good news |
LonePirate |
Nov-10-08 07:58 PM |
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K&R |
Maine-ah |
Nov-10-08 08:06 PM |
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Bravo! K&R |
Hepburn |
Nov-10-08 08:09 PM |
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Thanks lawmakers! |
Politicub |
Nov-10-08 08:13 PM |
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That's perfect. That sounds like a written law. Which, of course, it should be. |
kayakjohnny |
Nov-11-08 05:13 PM |
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Having read the pleadings, etc (former lawyer here) the chance this will be overturned is excellent |
scytherius |
Nov-10-08 08:16 PM |
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The LDS Church didn't donate money to support "yes on 8" |
CubicleGuy |
Nov-11-08 12:58 AM |
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church members were told "their souls would be in jeopardy" if they do not donate money |
FreeState |
Nov-11-08 02:42 AM |
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Mormons were told to contribute to the cause in Arizona as well. |
yardwork |
Nov-11-08 08:55 AM |
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links to back up your claim? |
comtec |
Nov-11-08 02:43 AM |
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It's not the CHURCH... it's PEOPLE |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 09:29 AM |
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It's not people, it's THE CHURCH(tm) |
comtec |
Nov-11-08 09:38 AM |
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The IRS Tax code clearly states that churches ARE ALLOWED TO BE POLITICAL! |
CubicleGuy |
Nov-12-08 04:29 PM |
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Fair point, I did hear that |
comtec |
Nov-13-08 02:27 AM |
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Correction: funds came from mormon congregations all over the country. |
Raster |
Nov-11-08 07:00 AM |
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Really? Check out this list |
nichomachus |
Nov-11-08 07:04 AM |
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Follow the Money...Follow the Link |
Rockholm |
Nov-11-08 08:40 AM |
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Nice to hear that from a "Professional" |
BlueJazz |
Nov-11-08 09:53 AM |
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I'm so glad to hear this |
wryter2000 |
Nov-11-08 12:27 PM |
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Excellent! This is looking better and better... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-10-08 08:24 PM |
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Hee Hee |
fascisthunter |
Nov-10-08 08:55 PM |
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I didn't see the numbers on this vote. was it even close or was it a blowout? n/t |
ladywnch |
Nov-10-08 09:17 PM |
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Overall it passed by about 5 points, around 52.3% to 47.7% or something like that. |
SurferBoy |
Nov-11-08 12:37 AM |
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No spouses for Gay people, but more than one for Mormon men. Make sense to me. |
olddad56 |
Nov-10-08 09:22 PM |
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Excellent point that should be put front and center |
goclark |
Nov-11-08 03:52 AM |
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the LDS church which promoted prop 8 does not support polygamy |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 09:19 AM |
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So....if Mormons can change their definition of marriage.... |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 09:49 AM |
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Wonderful point - you know why they did it? |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 10:03 AM |
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K&R |
fNord |
Nov-10-08 09:56 PM |
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K&R Who the hell do those Mormons think they are? |
bluesmail |
Nov-10-08 10:13 PM |
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K & R |
Mrspeeker |
Nov-11-08 12:11 AM |
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K&R nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-11-08 12:28 AM |
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Wonderul--!!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-11-08 12:32 AM |
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Good. |
jacobfloyd |
Nov-11-08 12:33 AM |
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NO MORMON MARRIAGES SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN CALIF |
YEBBA |
Nov-11-08 12:43 AM |
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As long as we're engaged in the world of fantasy... |
jwlashta |
Nov-11-08 06:05 AM |
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Don't forget, you'd have to wear "special" underwear. n/t |
VaYallaDawg |
Nov-11-08 09:03 AM |
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This is great news |
fourvahl |
Nov-11-08 12:43 AM |
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Overturn prop 8 or the mormon tabernacle choir gets it. |
bjobotts |
Nov-11-08 01:11 AM |
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Conflict and conversation-See how that works |
mentalslavery |
Nov-11-08 04:10 AM |
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Go argue with a rock. n/t |
ToolTex |
Nov-11-08 05:00 AM |
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What does that do? |
mentalslavery |
Nov-11-08 08:01 AM |
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I don't think you understand the purpose of DU. |
zipplewrath |
Nov-11-08 08:12 AM |
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I do understand the purpose of DU |
mentalslavery |
Nov-11-08 03:55 PM |
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it's perfectly reasonable to discuss how best to change people's minds here |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 09:33 AM |
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I totally agree... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-13-08 02:34 AM |
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It's very promising |
Vattel |
Nov-11-08 06:39 AM |
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Good news but . . . |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-11-08 07:03 AM |
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We have almost 2/3 in the legislature, but well under half of the voters |
slackmaster |
Nov-11-08 08:23 AM |
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Perhaps I am naieve, but i didn't realize... |
MiJaMu |
Nov-11-08 08:45 AM |
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You're right. You are naive that you didn't realize that marriage is a civil liberty. |
yardwork |
Nov-11-08 08:59 AM |
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What rock have you been hiding under? |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 09:10 AM |
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You are joking, yes? |
123infinity |
Nov-11-08 09:48 AM |
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Marriage can be both - |
haele |
Nov-11-08 10:03 AM |
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Oh well, live and learn. |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 10:11 AM |
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Nope. Religion does not own marriage. If it did, there'd be no married atheists/agnostics. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:34 PM |
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Look at it from a family point of view... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-13-08 02:41 AM |
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WooHoo !!! - K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Nov-11-08 09:42 AM |
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This is a terrible idea.... |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 10:05 AM |
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The only way the problem is going to be fixed is to change peoples' hearts and minds |
slackmaster |
Nov-11-08 10:09 AM |
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to change peoples' hearts and minds |
AlbertCat |
Nov-11-08 10:21 AM |
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Good reply, AlbertCat and I think we need to remember something here |
slackmaster |
Nov-11-08 12:01 PM |
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Not at all. If it's unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional. There's no reason to tolerate |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 10:30 AM |
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The ballot initiative was approved by the CA Supreme Court |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 10:34 AM |
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Wrong. They did not approve this or any other initiative in advance. |
greeneyedboy |
Nov-11-08 10:47 AM |
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The ballot initiative process is spelled out.. |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 11:09 AM |
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Maybe I'm not reading closely enough, but I don't see anything in the initiative |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 01:57 PM |
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It's a revision, not an amendment, and is therefore invalid. |
greeneyedboy |
Nov-12-08 07:10 PM |
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A revision that takes away rights is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:38 PM |
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The the court will say so, won't it? |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 01:33 PM |
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That's aboslutely untrue. They did NOT approve it in advance. That is a lie. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:36 PM |
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Civil rights often come from court cases. |
greeneyedboy |
Nov-11-08 10:49 AM |
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Like the Kelo case? |
WriteDown |
Nov-11-08 11:10 AM |
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Or like Loving v Virginia. |
mondo joe |
Nov-11-08 01:38 PM |
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Boy, it's a good thing MLK didn't listen to advice like yours. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-08 09:35 PM |
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You don't understand what happened... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-13-08 03:04 AM |
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Awesome |
wryter2000 |
Nov-11-08 12:26 PM |
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It will be overturned.,. heard it here first :) |
wroberts189 |
Nov-12-08 04:51 PM |
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