Reply #13: And you know, they are welcome to whatever they believe,

[patrice]

if they just didn't consider it their responsibility to inflict it on others; this is blasphemous. In doing so, they get results the opposite of what they say they want, i.e. stronger christians. They get weaker Christians and inflict much pain in the process.

"God" would not have made us free if "he" didn't want us to come to "him" by our own free will, not through manipulation, not through coercion, not through persuasion, no matter how well intentioned. Something like that can only be real if you've chosen it personally, and even then you can get it wrong, and the only way you'll be able to learn from your errors is if you choose to do so.