Reply #2: was discussing "echos of vietnam" with a friend just a few minutes ago ...

[sundancekid]

plus, has anyone else seen/heard the Levin quote below about "Washington would have to rethink..." in any other source???

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/RegionNF.asp?ArticleID=164812
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Two senior senators, one Democratic and one Republican, said over the weekend that only about one-quarter of the 168,000 Iraqi troops currently being trained are able "or willing" to fight.

The outcome of the political process will also make a difference, one way or another, according to Democratic Senator Carl Levin of Michigan.

Levin said if Iraqis fail to write a constitution, elect a new government and develop reliable security forces by early next year, Washington would have to rethink its commitment to Iraq.

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, agreed.

The writer is an Arab journalist based in Washington