Reply #63: But it seemed to stop at the point of saying control was bad and therefore

[CTyankee]

well, we can't have any control over "bad."

So everything is OK, because it is free will. Well, what is happening in Darfur is "free will." Everything bad that goes on that is not strictly government controlled is "free will" and somehow (because benefits accrue to males) it is OK. It is NOT OK when men have to suffer, as the protagonist did in Clockwork Orange (oh, no, he was controlled by the government and that is bad, and it is only bad when he is controlled by the government, not when he is being "himself", that monster).

I am NOT agreeing that the state should control humans. NOt at all. But I am saying that just stating that it is a black or white choice is no choice at all. We do have a moral choice, one that does not exploit the weak, but also honors a moral code of tolerance towards others. The C.O. argument negates the entire notion of moral choice and that is my major objection to it. I think it could have been a more deeply intellectual movie.