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Since you have not cited a case where one can be certain that torture saved an innocent life, you should entertain the possibility that there is no such case.
Don't worry. Mr. Dershowitz failed to satisfy me in this respect as well. You are in good company.
However, that torture could save lives in some hypothetical circumstances is not sufficient to justify allowing its use. However you slice it, there is no reasonable probability that it would.
Moreover, if time is urgent and obtaining a court order is time consuming, then my objection stands. If a judge is not going to take the time to examine whether torture might possibly do any good, we may as well do things the way Hamas does it. On the other hand, if time is not urgent, then that assumes the authorities have time to carry out a conventional investigation. Under those circumstances, it would be impossible for the authorities to demonstrate the necessity of torture.
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