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RayUbinger Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:13 PM
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32. I don't target special sub-audiences
piobair writes:

> Tell the families

Bring them here, where I am equally addressing ALL of our brothers and sisters in citizenship.

> and the authorities

That would be us again. We the People are the authorities when it comes to firing the criminal coup d'etat and re-establishing the Constitution.


> Repeated references back to bizarre websites do not constitute proof

My evidence is not from any website, silly. It's from a publicly available DVD, Naudet 911. Try to keep up.


> I do think websites that promote "no plane" theories and holographs as a catch all excuse to explain things you can't understand qualify as bizarre.

Straw man. The Naudets created the content of the movie excerpts. The Naudets are not no-planers. The Naudets are not hologram theorists.

But since you bring it up again, WHY do you find it "bizarre" for people to think that a real plane would have broken on impact? (which is the opposite of what the 2nd Hit videos actually show)

And how do you possibly explain shadows cast toward the sun and comprised of white light?


> Also,a statement asserting a fact such as Hanlon being an actor as well as a firefighter is not proof of anything greater than that one statement.

That is not to say it's a trivial datum. It's a piece of a puzzle. It is not a directly damning thing like the sneaky cut that was used to insert Tony into the Gorumba funeral crowd, but it's intriguing to look into further. And when I did look into it further, I found Hanlon and "Firefighter Bill Walsh," ANOTHER Naudet 911 name, BOTH with appearances on the TV cop/firefighter show Third Watch, which is set in NYC. And Hanlon made a PREVIOUS movie with the Naudets. And the Naudet 911 movie says NOTHING about this side of him.

Incidentally I wonder what Hanlon and Tony doing were doing at WTC before S11?

As I said, Tony is real good at standing around in a uniform and looking pretty. That's him, second from the left, and Hanlon, first from the right, in an unexplained scene early in the movie. Hanlon's narration claims that they would sometimes get called to WTC five times in a single shift! What for? Just standing around to have their picture taken, like Tony (again second from left) is seen doing in this other clip
http://911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld2.htm
?


>Your continued attempts to weave a huge 10 plus year conspiracy that must have included thousands of players is laughable.

Straw man. I specifically said I have only suspcion, no proof, regarding how long the planning was.


> There may yet be a conspiracy revealed but I'm confident that it does not involve the Naudet film in the way you portray and that the FDNY is not poulated with CIA operatives and murderers.

Simply repeating your foregone conclusion is not an answer to any of the points I cited as remaining unrefuted by you.

Your inability to believe that your own govt could even POSSIBLY have not only done S11 but also infiltrated the FDNY for S11 propaganda purposes, is what makes it so ingenious that they did do that very thing. They knew that that particular infiltration would give them cover beyond suspicion. They knew the FDNY would be put on a pedestal after S11, and rightly so FOR ITS LEGITIMATE EMPLOYEES. But this firehouse at 100 Duane Street is or at least was loaded with agents, because the film they're in is full of holes and they participated in it in a highly coordinated way.


Ray Ubinger
http://911foreknowledge.com
Sinister clues of inside info and deep deception lurk in Emmy-winning S11 "documentary" by the Naudet "brothers."
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