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Tue Dec-26-06 08:29 PM
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| 126. Ok, what I get out of this |
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is that six months after we got into Iraq, Edwards still believed in his IWR vote.
I am not sure how that supports making statements like "And Edwards role in supporting the Iraq invasion goes much deeper than how he voted on IWR."
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| -How can Edwards effectively compete with Obama? |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-25-06 10:09 PM |
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Edwards will be seriously hindered should Obama enter the race. |
Ninja Jordan |
Dec-25-06 10:11 PM |
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Maybe. |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-25-06 10:12 PM |
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Gore will not run; Clark is a marginal candidate. |
Ninja Jordan |
Dec-25-06 10:16 PM |
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If you check another Politics post |
illinoisprogressive |
Dec-25-06 10:24 PM |
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I figured as much; it would be idiotic for Obama not to run now. |
Ninja Jordan |
Dec-25-06 10:29 PM |
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You are correct...Obama is sucking all the oxygen out of Edwards |
fuzzyball |
Dec-26-06 01:04 PM |
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That could change. |
Andromeda |
Dec-26-06 08:18 PM |
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If Clark runs, he will pull votes away from supporters of other candidates |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-25-06 10:27 PM |
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Marginal as it relates to his prospects of winning the nomination. |
Ninja Jordan |
Dec-25-06 10:31 PM |
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Except I doubt he'd want to be vice president. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-26-06 10:47 AM |
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Clarkie1 - why not ask how can CLARK effectively compete with Obama? |
chimpymustgo |
Dec-26-06 08:02 AM |
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Because that's not what this thread is about. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-26-06 10:59 AM |
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Why don't YOU start a thread asking that question - this is the DU forum, not the Clark forum |
beaconess |
Dec-26-06 02:56 PM |
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I think Clark and Edwards will appeal to different groups. |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-26-06 08:21 PM |
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Gore will most likely not run |
Andromeda |
Dec-26-06 08:16 PM |
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There is no way Obama will win the nomination |
Bitwit1234 |
Dec-25-06 10:24 PM |
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You mean win the general election. |
Ninja Jordan |
Dec-25-06 10:26 PM |
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I agree. His race is certainly not a negative to winning the Democratic |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-25-06 10:58 PM |
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Look, there are bigots who are Dems, particularly in the red/purple |
Clark2008 |
Dec-26-06 11:03 AM |
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Disagree about the nomination |
Solo_in_MD |
Dec-25-06 10:38 PM |
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I don't believe that. |
Andromeda |
Dec-26-06 08:24 PM |
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edwards better start thumpin his bible if he has one nt |
msongs |
Dec-25-06 10:27 PM |
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This may be begging the question, but must they compete against each other? |
no_hypocrisy |
Dec-25-06 10:28 PM |
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Edwards will do much better in the south |
PretzelWarrior |
Dec-25-06 10:35 PM |
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A huge chunk of South Carolina's primary voting block is African-Americans |
Ninja Jordan |
Dec-25-06 10:41 PM |
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Edwards can't even carry his own home state! |
BluegrassDem |
Dec-25-06 10:52 PM |
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The South has been seen as "GOP right wing bigots" |
Erika |
Dec-25-06 11:03 PM |
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How does the Iraq being "one unholy cockup" help Edwards? |
damkira |
Dec-25-06 11:48 PM |
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I Certainly Agree With You About The South To Some Extent.... |
ChiciB1 |
Dec-26-06 02:02 PM |
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I totally agree with you |
nevergiveup |
Dec-25-06 10:35 PM |
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Obama can't carry a candle to John Edwards IMHO. |
Andromeda |
Dec-26-06 08:30 PM |
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Self delete ... |
Trajan |
Dec-25-06 10:41 PM |
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Well, a lot of people I know really like Edwards. |
madfloridian |
Dec-25-06 10:48 PM |
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Edwards And Obama Are My Dream Ticket |
mntleo2 |
Dec-25-06 10:56 PM |
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Yep. I 100% agree |
Erika |
Dec-25-06 10:59 PM |
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Edwards is loved by the crowds. |
Erika |
Dec-25-06 10:58 PM |
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Edwards is battle tested |
lwin |
Dec-25-06 11:00 PM |
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He and Eizabeth are wonderful! |
Erika |
Dec-25-06 11:06 PM |
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Agree. And we don't really know what Obama stands for |
question everything |
Dec-25-06 11:17 PM |
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What did you or anyone else know about Edwards in December of 2002? |
beaconess |
Dec-26-06 09:59 AM |
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I knew that he was a successful trial lawyer, meaning he is |
question everything |
Dec-26-06 09:21 PM |
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Edwards is battle tested because he ran for president in 2004 |
beaconess |
Dec-26-06 09:59 AM |
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Of Late... His Maturity Is Really Beginning To SHINE Too!!! |
ChiciB1 |
Dec-26-06 02:06 PM |
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I agree - but these are qualities that weren't apparent until he ran for president |
beaconess |
Dec-26-06 02:55 PM |
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This Is True... Obama Certainly Has A Comfort Zone That He |
ChiciB1 |
Dec-26-06 06:00 PM |
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As an Iowan... |
Counciltucky |
Dec-25-06 11:05 PM |
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But, he has not been running... |
illinoisprogressive |
Dec-25-06 11:09 PM |
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But at this point, is it possible? |
Counciltucky |
Dec-26-06 02:35 AM |
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How do you know what Obama can and can't do in a campaign? He hasn't started yet! |
beaconess |
Dec-26-06 10:02 AM |
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I agree, barack Obama hasn't even begun to get all of his views opinons across yet! |
Imagevision |
Dec-26-06 01:43 PM |
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What about the poll that shows Edwards and Obama tied at... |
damkira |
Dec-26-06 11:29 AM |
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Seems to me Obama transends many things. |
illinoisprogressive |
Dec-25-06 11:07 PM |
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I prefer Edwards personally... |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-25-06 11:29 PM |
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In time you will find someone to support fully |
illinoisprogressive |
Dec-25-06 11:56 PM |
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Of course. :-) |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-26-06 12:07 AM |
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Edwards could have competed (note PAST tense) |
app_farmer_rb |
Dec-25-06 11:55 PM |
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I've heard this before about Edwards |
illinoisprogressive |
Dec-26-06 12:08 AM |
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These were/are most of the Repub talking points from 2004 |
unc70 |
Dec-26-06 04:22 AM |
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No they're not. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-26-06 11:08 AM |
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He was well-liked in NC, and is still |
venable |
Dec-26-06 05:59 PM |
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The GOP welcomes you to DU with this biased, unsubstantiated slander of Edwards. |
chimpymustgo |
Dec-26-06 07:55 AM |
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Don't you love these threads ? |
Catchawave |
Dec-26-06 10:01 AM |
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that's right chimpy: you CAN'T |
app_farmer_rb |
Dec-26-06 02:28 PM |
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Well, opinions are like *ssholes. But you know that. |
chimpymustgo |
Dec-26-06 03:49 PM |
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oops, gotta correct my own statement |
app_farmer_rb |
Dec-28-06 07:22 AM |
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I never heard from John Edwards either. |
NCarolinawoman |
Dec-26-06 09:15 PM |
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Edwards' platform |
liberalpragmatist |
Dec-26-06 12:09 AM |
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This is funny because |
illinoisprogressive |
Dec-26-06 12:26 AM |
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Well everyone always says they don't want VP |
liberalpragmatist |
Dec-26-06 12:32 AM |
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I think Obama will move so far ahead |
talk hard |
Dec-26-06 12:22 AM |
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I wish Hillary would stay in the Senate |
illinoisprogressive |
Dec-26-06 12:39 AM |
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Obama is moving supporters from lots of camps to his side |
talk hard |
Dec-26-06 12:50 AM |
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Go back to the archives of 2003 |
madfloridian |
Dec-26-06 12:47 AM |
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Florida.... how do you get in the archives from that far back? |
larissa |
Dec-26-06 03:05 AM |
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You can't get in prior to, I believe, July of 2003. |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-26-06 03:47 PM |
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it is obama's to lose |
earthlover |
Dec-26-06 01:33 AM |
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If it comes down to Obama, Hillary and Edwards |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-26-06 03:55 PM |
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I don't share your choice (I like Edwards) but I love |
venable |
Dec-26-06 06:02 PM |
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He combines everything Obama has to offer with a little bit more experience and track record. n/t |
Infinite Hope |
Dec-26-06 02:46 AM |
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He comes across as less sincere than Obama, IMO |
ripple |
Dec-26-06 09:38 AM |
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I think our top tier 3 will be Clark, Edwards and Obama |
larissa |
Dec-26-06 03:00 AM |
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You forgot that Obama hasn't been on a losing national ticket, Edwards is damaged goods |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-26-06 04:57 AM |
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Bingo |
mtnsnake |
Dec-26-06 10:14 AM |
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I'd pick Edwards over Obama in a second |
Digit |
Dec-26-06 07:20 AM |
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I am with you on this one. n/t |
grmamo |
Dec-26-06 10:37 AM |
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Too early to call on Edwards or Obama, they've both just barely started... |
Imagevision |
Dec-26-06 01:56 PM |
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Edwards has a bigger base to work with |
MATTMAN |
Dec-26-06 10:22 AM |
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Well, my whole family of Southerners aren't voting for him. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-26-06 11:12 AM |
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I am sure your family represents the southern consensus. |
MATTMAN |
Dec-26-06 11:53 AM |
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Southerners aren't die cast. And when you consider how many YANKEES |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 12:29 PM |
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I thought this was about Edwards and Obama |
venable |
Dec-26-06 06:07 PM |
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How can Clark effectively compete with Edwards and Obama? |
Catchawave |
Dec-26-06 12:15 PM |
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I think Edwards is better on TV than Obama. |
gulliver |
Dec-26-06 12:38 PM |
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I agree about Elizabeth n/t |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 12:54 PM |
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It's better for Edwards that Obama is running, if Edwards is the better man? he will win... |
Imagevision |
Dec-26-06 01:39 PM |
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Obama in the race will make Edwards a stronger and deeper candidate |
beaconess |
Dec-26-06 02:59 PM |
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He can be himself and not worry about taking stances the media does not like. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-26-06 03:00 PM |
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Off base? |
LWolf |
Dec-26-06 03:05 PM |
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Charisma? |
durtee librul |
Dec-26-06 04:07 PM |
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Yes, I think that the Bush Presidency proves how much gritty reality means to Americans. |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 05:13 PM |
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As long as that's not a rhetorical question: |
LWolf |
Dec-26-06 08:07 PM |
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well said |
venable |
Dec-26-06 06:08 PM |
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Obama Is On The Rise FOR NOW. Hillary Is "Sliding," And Obama is Next, THEN |
Dinger |
Dec-26-06 03:56 PM |
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Obama is a newer, shinier candidate with that new car smell. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-26-06 06:02 PM |
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Ahhh...but it was a failed candidacy once removed. |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 06:04 PM |
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So does Gore ? |
Catchawave |
Dec-26-06 06:14 PM |
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just that Obama is a clean slate |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-26-06 06:36 PM |
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I worry it might be a little TOO clean. |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 06:40 PM |
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the MSM is already excavating dirt on Obama |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-26-06 06:48 PM |
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I don't know about Velveeta, but it sure can give the other side |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 06:52 PM |
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So is Edwards.... |
Catchawave |
Dec-26-06 07:53 PM |
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Obama is pristine comparatively. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-26-06 08:09 PM |
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$50 says Obama has been guilty of significant poor judgement at some point |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 08:15 PM |
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oh no doubt |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-26-06 08:17 PM |
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Pax |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 08:33 PM |
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Thank you :) |
Catchawave |
Dec-26-06 08:20 PM |
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thank you |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-26-06 08:24 PM |
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See ya on the race track :) |
Catchawave |
Dec-26-06 08:51 PM |
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Gore didn't lose. I think that would be in his favor in other campaign.n/t |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 06:38 PM |
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plus Gore has had sufficient time |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-26-06 06:44 PM |
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Yup |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 06:50 PM |
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So did Kerry/Edwards then ? |
Catchawave |
Dec-26-06 07:51 PM |
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This reminds me of my daughter |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 07:57 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-26-06 06:42 PM |
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I really don't see how Obama is a weak candidate |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-26-06 07:14 PM |
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again, love the flickering window, but how can you say |
venable |
Dec-26-06 07:41 PM |
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You have your view and I have mine. |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-26-06 07:46 PM |
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Please |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 07:50 PM |
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I'll give my biased shorthand version |
venable |
Dec-26-06 08:13 PM |
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This thread has some good info. |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-26-06 08:23 PM |
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Ok, what I get out of this |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 08:29 PM |
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there's something else worth saying |
venable |
Dec-26-06 08:44 PM |
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"Why do we eat our own, good men and women all?" Hell if I know...n/t |
renie408 |
Dec-26-06 08:50 PM |
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Just that, as Venable said, |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-28-06 03:47 AM |
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Do you really believe Edwards is stupid |
venable |
Dec-26-06 08:49 PM |
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I believe that he displayed some very poor judgement. |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-27-06 03:33 AM |
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I agree with almost everything you said. |
SanCristobal |
Dec-26-06 07:43 PM |
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How can Edwards compete with Obama? |
SteveM |
Dec-28-06 08:58 AM |
#138 |
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