Reply #62: *sigh* You disappoint me Tom

[JNelson6563]

But it's shallow to presume that people promote someone simply for the sake of promoting them .

And it is interesting that you write that since I did not even suggest anyone promotes anyone for the sake of promotion. I was referring to that handful of posters who have remained at DU for the sole purpose of promoting Clark for an 08 run. I did not touch on why they want that, however did you read that into what I said Tom?

I support someone who shares my values and the vast majority of my positions on issues that I care very deeply about. I support someone who I believe will be able to deliver on the promises he makes in his policy statements (which I agree with) because A) I think he says what he means and means what he says. B) I think he has the ability to implement ideas, not just articulate them and C) I think he can produce a broad winning national coalition for Democrats that will strengthen our ticket nation wide, delivering the type of virtually veto proof majorities that we will need in order to radically alter the direction that our nation is heading.

Most excellent soap-box routine Tom but nobody questioned anybody's reasons for supporting Clark. As you know (but seems to be lost on many of your commrades) I really don't have any issues with Clark myself. The question was not about why anyone could support Clark.

Anyone can differ with me on agreeing with Clark or on my reasons for thinking he can deliver on what I care about. But if you willing to be charitable enough to take me at my word, then why on earth would I not spend time here supporting the person that I do? It is completely consistent with me trying to realize Democratic progressive goals that this message board is dedicated to. I often post about Clark, but I do not only post about Clark. I also engage in numerous other discussions on Democratic Underground. However when I do post about Clark I am always ready and willing to get into a substantive discussion of real issues. I am always willing to explain my positions, and explain what it is about Clark's positions that resonate with me personally. I think that adds to the quality of discussion here, and I think my participation on Democratic Underground is as valid as anyone else's here.

Me thinks thou dost protest too much Tom. I am surprised to see you consider yourself to be in the group I referred to (surely you didn't miss the fact I was referring to some, not all). While I have never seen you in other discussions I surely don't question it as I miss many of the discussions here. Besides Tom, rational and civil dialogue is not at question here, no matter how repetitive, persecuted (imagined or otherwise) or overly verbose.

What I wondered about, that seems to have been actually forgotten by you while penning your very lengthy, almost relevent reply was: what will those whose only purpose on DU has been to promote a Clark fun for 08 do if Clark does not run? If this does not apply to you then I reckon you don't know the answer. I wish someone it does apply to would just answer the question but I am beginning to believe there is none honest enough to actually admit that is their one and only reason for being here.

Ah well, it was worth a shot anyhow. I can guess at the answers.....only so many possible out comes. The first is they'd stop posting here if Clark doesn't run. The second is they stay and harrass supporters of others cause they're pissed their guy's out. They cold either tire of this can eventually quit posting or the mods/admins could grow weary of it and TS the offender(s).

I guess we can just wait and see since no forthright answer seems to be forthcoming from those that my original question applies to.

Julie