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zacherystaylor Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:12 AM
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29. Chris Mathews made that claim without evidece too
The biggest problem is with the incompetence of the Warren report which Bugliosi refereed to as "admirable." They acknowledge numerous problems, including the fact that Governor Connolly's suit was cleaned before they checked it for evidence, and fail to address them properly; instead they used a lot of hype and propaganda. I haven't read Bugliosi's book but I fail to see how he could possibly put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

I mentioned Mathew's review recently and it could just as easily apply to your claim. Douglass is far more credible than the birther stuff; here is what I wrote previously:


Chris Mathews has labeled the investigators and people who don’t believe the official story a bunch of “crazies” or “grassy knollers;” and he has equated them with the conspiracy theorist who have challenged whether or not Obama was born in the USA. Chris Mathews isn’t the only high profile person from the media or government to do this; in most case they have been more subtle. They didn’t back this claim up by reviewing the evidence instead they have indicated that past attempts have done this successfully and therefore it should be put to rest. The problem is, of course, that a review of past “debunking” attempts hasn’t been very credible if you actually look at the efforts.

There have of course been many of these efforts including one high profile TV show that stated that the bullet couldn’t possibly have come from the grassy knoll because then it would have hit Jacqueline after passing through JFK instead of Governor Connelly. This was presented without any review as a credible debunking effort even though anyone who looks at a map can clearly see that both the knoll and the depository were to the right of the limo, one in the front the other in the rear; neither of these would have put Jacqueline in the line of fire right behind JFK. On many other occasions they have focused an enormous amount of attention on an alleged conspiracy that claims that JFK was shot from a sewer. They claim that this is a high profile conspiracy and they debunk it quite easily since it is so clearly flawed. I have rarely if ever read a sincere conspiracy theorist that mentions this much if at all and certainly none that spend much time on it. If they want to do a good debunking job they might want to spend a modest amount of time on something like this but they should spend the majority of their time on the more credible theories and they should spend more time reviewing the details of the official reports.

This came from a recent blog which also mentions a problem with the way Bugliosi described Hearsay:

Also another thing that Bugliosi might want to address in his book is his definition of hearsay. The reason for this is that in his forst major book “Helter Skelter” he argued that hearsay is almost always admissible and that the cases where it is banned should be considered the exception not the rule. If he “debunked” all conspiracy theories then he should have included the Clay Shaw and he should have a good explanation to the bizarre hearsay rules implemented by the judge in that case which clearly contradicts his claim in “Helter Skelter.”

for complete review see:

http://open.salon.com/blog/zacherydtaylor/2011/06/13/jfk_and_the_unspeakable_james_douglass
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