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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:28 AM
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You know that turbo-woo crap about human concsiousness creating everything thru observation?
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Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 08:53 AM by trotsky
PZ Myers linked to the most thorough, incredible beatdown of it I've ever seen.

http://nirmukta.com/2009/12/14/biocentrism-demystified-a-response-to-deepak-chopra-and-robert-lanzas-notion-of-a-conscious-universe/

Yeah, it's long, but worth it.

On edit: I was going to quote a paragraph or two, but just couldn't pick from among the gems. After reading it again I think this one is a beauty:
Considering Chopra’s reputation in the scientific community for making absurd quack claims about every subject under the sun, one must wonder about the strange pairing between the two writers. With Lanza’s experience in biomedical research, he could not possibly be in agreement with Chopra’s brand of holistic healing and quantum mysticism. Rather, it seems likely that this is an arrangement of convenience. If you look at what drives the two men, a mutually reinforced disenchantment with Darwin’s ideas emerges as a strong motive behind the pairing. Both Chopra and Lanza are disillusioned with a certain perceived implication of Darwinian evolution on human existence - that the meaning of life is inconsequential to the universe. Evolutionary biology upholds the materialist view of modern science that consciousness is a product of purely inanimate matter assembling in highly complex states. Such a view is disillusioning to anyone who craves a more central role for the human ego in determining one’s reality. The view that human life is central to existence is found in most philosophical and religious traditions. This view is so fundamental to our nature that we can say it is an intuitive reaction to the very condition of being conscious. It has traditionally been the powerful driving force behind philosophers, poets, priests, mystics and scholars of history. Darwin dismantled the idea in one clean stroke. Therefore, Darwin became the enemy. The entire theory of biocentrism is an attempt to ingrain the idea of human destiny into popular science.


It's been remarked how the woos are the left's intellectual analog to the far-right fundies, and this paragraph really drives that home. Fear of scientific idea, and unwillingness to accept it, drives a dogmatic devotion to ANYTHING that tells them science is wrong.
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