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Wed Sep-26-07 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
| 24. They oppose it because of their RELIGIOUS BELIEFS! |
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And sorry, allowing gays to LEGALLY marry has nothing to do with religion. Hence, you cannot be "tolerant" and "loving" of gays and vote against their right to LEGALLY marry. That doesn't mean your church has to marry them. Just the courts.
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| -I think if religious people had thier way, we'd extend tolerance and love to Gays in this country. |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:30 PM |
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Do you make a living out of making provocative, false statements? |
Flabbergasted |
Sep-26-07 12:32 PM |
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No, it's just his hobby here at DU. nm |
dicksteele |
Sep-27-07 07:29 AM |
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This is as much BS as the OP it is a copycat of. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:32 PM |
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yeah tell em troll. tell em. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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I'm tempted to start my own thread now. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:42 PM |
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It has, however, successfully proven |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:33 AM |
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Does tolerance include gay rights? The right to marry? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:32 PM |
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Depends on the faith |
Prophet 451 |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
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People in my |
Irishonly |
Sep-28-07 02:47 PM |
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what bullshit. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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Religous people are good people, by and large |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:38 PM |
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umm yeah, this is why theocracies are such examples of love peace and kindess |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:39 PM |
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"In this country" - America |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:46 PM |
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this is what you said 'Religous people are good people, by and large' |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:48 PM |
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I was refering to religous people in America |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:52 PM |
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so only american religious people are good, the rest are crappy. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:53 PM |
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Didn't say that |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:54 PM |
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as i said on gd before, america's slogan should be "we could be much worse" |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
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hey...don't be bashing America. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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Yes, much worse |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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ok so irans worse. no one is denying that. how is that related to goodness of american religious |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
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Somebody brought it up |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:00 PM |
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you did. not post 13. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:00 PM |
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Is your hatred of religious people, as a group, any more justifiable? |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:36 AM |
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i dont hate religious people as a group. and no my ideal regime wouldnt burn anybody |
lionesspriyanka |
Oct-02-07 07:38 PM |
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As long as we're two degrees above absolute shit we're great! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
#43 |
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LOL |
Scurrilous |
Sep-26-07 12:54 PM |
#32 |
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Why are you offended by that? You agree with half of it. |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:28 AM |
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So a religious Iranian is not a "good person"? |
SOS |
Sep-28-07 11:10 AM |
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Really? Then why is it that just about the only reason people give as to why gay marriage should |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:40 PM |
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It's thier religous belief, for many |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:48 PM |
#20 |
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They oppose it because of their RELIGIOUS BELIEFS! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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hmm... |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Yeah, and religion also says that women should be subordinate to men |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
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I'm not sure a persons religious beliefs |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
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but that's not true |
Bill McBlueState |
Sep-28-07 10:26 AM |
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Sep-28-07 11:05 AM |
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just as long as they don't do that icky same sex - homosexhul - marriage girlyboy bikerdyky thingy. |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:34 PM |
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It's a big stretch |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
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The OP is not about executing gays, it says that there would be love and tolerance |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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fair enough |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:01 PM |
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whew - that make is OK then... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:42 PM |
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not really - its just one small step... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:39 PM |
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are they against DADT? |
varun |
Sep-26-07 01:03 PM |
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Following the upheaval in the Episcopal Church much? |
PassingFair |
Sep-27-07 08:16 AM |
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I don't disagree with you. |
PassingFair |
Sep-27-07 08:18 AM |
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Religious people account for more death and torture than all the other people added together. |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:45 AM |
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When you account for the deaths in the Soviet Union |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:26 AM |
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And atheists are bad people, by and large? |
Ignis |
Oct-03-07 01:49 PM |
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You mean religious people do NOT get their way? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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I think it's more a matter that most religious people dont want to politicize what they believe. |
StrongBad |
Sep-26-07 12:37 PM |
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I think you may be confusing spirituality with religion |
KitchenWitch |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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A fair point |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:37 PM |
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and my experience is : not so much. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:44 PM |
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Tolerance and love |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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i am not talking legality. you can perform a same sex wedding without it having any state/fed rights |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:51 PM |
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As is thier right |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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but not as much as they love/tolerate straights? |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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Which Religions Would Those Be? |
Crisco |
Sep-26-07 01:12 PM |
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except for all that SEX part... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:48 PM |
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That is EXACTLY what I was going to say. There is a lot of 'religion' without spirituality. n/t |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:49 AM |
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I agree, KW. |
I Have A Dream |
Oct-02-07 11:10 AM |
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Your statement |
H2O Man |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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It does seem to that. But the OP was just trying to be nice and got |
King Coal |
Sep-28-07 03:39 PM |
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So true! |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:28 AM |
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Define what you mean by "if religious people had their way", please. |
impeachdubya |
Sep-26-07 12:36 PM |
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To a great extent, they do |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
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You didn't answer my question, though:Are you trying to say that religious people are inherently |
impeachdubya |
Sep-26-07 02:37 PM |
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Sep-26-07 12:38 PM |
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Ahh, I see. It's the Atheists that are the homophobes... |
SidDithers |
Sep-26-07 12:46 PM |
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yeah we are such bastards/ |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:47 PM |
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many are. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:49 PM |
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And so are many religious...nt |
SidDithers |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
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no disagreemnent there. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 01:06 PM |
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I may not be religious..... |
demgurl |
Sep-28-07 11:42 AM |
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What percentage, exactly? |
Ignis |
Oct-03-07 01:51 PM |
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Yep |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Sep-26-07 03:10 PM |
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You are the judge of what constitutes "religious"? |
Selatius |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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Then why haven't they? Why is it that every major religion is anti-gay? |
Beelzebud |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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Don't hold your breath waiting for recommendations on this thread... |
bullwinkle428 |
Sep-26-07 12:52 PM |
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You have got to be kidding yourself |
supernova |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
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No... |
dicksteele |
Sep-27-07 07:34 AM |
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on a side note...what exactly is tolerance? |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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Apparently it means they don't lock you up and execute you. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
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tolerance is apparanly the lack of hanging in public squares. so long as we arent doing that |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Tolerance doen't mean acceptance or affirmation |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:05 PM |
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You're comparing tolerance of a sport...to the acceptance of legal rights. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:05 PM |
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so we should tolerate gays in the same way we tolerate a crappy sport? |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:06 PM |
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EXACTLY! don't you people get it?!?! They're really NICE people!!! |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:53 PM |
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do you think gay people or nascar fans need you to condone them? |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:08 PM |
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no... but there seems to be a cult of affirmation |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:13 PM |
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"Maybe they don't buy into every bit of gay rights" |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:14 PM |
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I tolerate blacks, I just don't think they should share the same stuff as whites or vote |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:16 PM |
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excellent!!! i mean we dont have to buy their whole point about equality now do we? |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:17 PM |
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"Tolerance doen't mean acceptance or affirmation" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:21 PM |
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that's a strawman |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:24 PM |
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thats not a strawman. gays and straights dont enjoy the same rights. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-27-07 07:23 AM |
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It's hardly a strawman. It's a clear, direct comparison. |
dicksteele |
Sep-28-07 02:58 AM |
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WOW! |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:57 PM |
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manonman SEX!!! EEEEK!!! but they could watch girlongirlsex - THAT'S HOT!!!!! |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:55 PM |
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sadly that might be a better way to change people's negative attitudes... |
tigereye |
Oct-03-07 01:16 PM |
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Gay rights? Guess what, gay people are---people and they are entitled to the same rights |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:17 PM |
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i guess my brilliant marketing has atleast worked on you. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:19 PM |
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indeed! Plastics are the future young lady and i think you have one helluva |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:21 PM |
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your use of the word tolerance is bigoted and offensive. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 01:25 PM |
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... |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:26 PM |
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thank you for your tolerance. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 01:28 PM |
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Indeed. |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 09:06 AM |
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Uh oh. Looks like this one got TS'd. |
quantessd |
Oct-02-07 04:32 PM |
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No True Scotsman n/t |
Kelly Rupert |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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The eternal defense. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 10:34 AM |
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um what? Aren't you the same person that wants to bomb Iran and now you're |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
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Nope |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:08 PM |
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right uh huh sure. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:09 PM |
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Of course. It's all the World's Most Obvious Facade. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 10:50 AM |
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You aren't from my part of the country, are you? |
mmonk |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
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Looks like somebody is bored. |
Breeze54 |
Sep-26-07 01:06 PM |
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Depends on the religion and the believer |
Prophet 451 |
Sep-26-07 01:08 PM |
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Yes, religions have ALWAYS been a beacon of understanding |
Goblinmonger |
Sep-26-07 01:10 PM |
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That's not true |
terrya |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
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the op is describing tolerance only by the lack of imprisonment and killing |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
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Nope. |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:14 PM |
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read what you have to say yourself and your idiotic circular arguments |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:15 PM |
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Go right up to post 1 |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:18 PM |
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you know what i saw the message board you started and after reading your posts |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:19 PM |
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Link or cached page? |
GoneOffShore |
Sep-26-07 01:23 PM |
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check your pm ok? |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:24 PM |
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Can I get in |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:25 PM |
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sorry dude, i'm not religious so i don't have to tolerate you or your flamefests any longer. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:26 PM |
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Got it. |
GoneOffShore |
Sep-26-07 01:40 PM |
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So, if you don't imprison and torture somebody for something you disagree with, you are tolerant? |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:48 AM |
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That was the other thread's standard, actually. |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:35 AM |
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You're holding all religious people responsible for the view of |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:30 AM |
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"..those few": Few? They carried the election for Bush** twice on hatred and |
AlinPA |
Sep-26-07 01:28 PM |
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The religious people want to make this country & the world a better place. |
baldguy |
Sep-26-07 01:28 PM |
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you're begging for this shit |
hiphopnation23 |
Sep-26-07 01:46 PM |
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Religious is too broad a term here... |
Solon |
Sep-26-07 01:47 PM |
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The MLK avatar is a nice touch, btw. |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 02:54 AM |
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.. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 09:07 AM |
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Aren't we LUCKY not to have been rounded up by now? |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 09:13 AM |
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well they just have to 'tolerate us'....and so long as we are a few steps above iran |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 09:14 AM |
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I credit the religious people for looking out for us. |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 09:15 AM |
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you know the same people who have the 2 lines from leviticus tattooed on their brain |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 09:17 AM |
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Hey! |
DuStrange |
Sep-29-07 10:06 PM |
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Shouldn't you be trolling MySpace for cannon fodder? |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:38 AM |
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Good thing she/he made a "support the troops" thread - else she/he'd have trouble.. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 10:52 AM |
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! |
Raster |
Sep-28-07 11:02 AM |
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All religion is poison, it doesn't matter whom you believe to be |
NoFederales |
Sep-28-07 09:19 AM |
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I can't find this |
Enthusiast |
Sep-28-07 09:47 AM |
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well look upthread: i think by 'tolerance' they mean 'not killing, imprisoning or maiming" |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 10:15 AM |
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Is your post for the original OP? Mine is contrary: Religion is poison. nt |
NoFederales |
Sep-28-07 11:27 AM |
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Hehehe, 115 replies and only 1 rec... |
SidDithers |
Sep-28-07 10:16 AM |
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Riiiiiiiiiight. |
Oregonian |
Sep-28-07 10:22 AM |
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I hate to tell you this but... |
youthere |
Sep-28-07 10:28 AM |
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but religious people do have their way |
Bill McBlueState |
Sep-28-07 10:32 AM |
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EXACTLY. |
youthere |
Sep-28-07 10:35 AM |
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Jesse Ventura.... A congressman in california... Thats about it. |
TheUniverse |
Sep-28-07 11:10 AM |
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Clearly you don't live near a Southern Baptist megachurch |
Rob H. |
Sep-28-07 10:41 AM |
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Amen. n/t |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:46 AM |
#123 |
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This is pure flamebait and it devalues your other threads and posts |
yardwork |
Sep-28-07 11:04 AM |
#129 |
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No it doesn't - they're exactly the same value. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 11:09 AM |
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OOH! SNAP! |
youthere |
Sep-28-07 11:10 AM |
#135 |
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I disagree |
Zandor |
Sep-28-07 11:57 AM |
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I've yet to see a thread by you |
charlie |
Sep-28-07 12:00 PM |
#141 |
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Sorry you feel the need to make a personal attack |
Zandor |
Sep-28-07 12:03 PM |
#142 |
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"we're all progressives here" |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-28-07 02:50 PM |
#153 |
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Fair & Balanced, eh Zandor? |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 12:16 PM |
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As subtle as a heart attack, isn't it? |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 02:26 PM |
#144 |
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HEY! Be nice Bluebear! Just be nice. |
King Coal |
Sep-28-07 03:51 PM |
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Religion is the belief in stupid stuff for no legitimate reason. |
TheUniverse |
Sep-28-07 11:08 AM |
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I am not sure about that. |
demgurl |
Sep-28-07 11:31 AM |
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!!?? |
ronnie624 |
Sep-28-07 11:53 AM |
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depends on your meaning of 'religious' |
spanone |
Sep-28-07 02:27 PM |
#145 |
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ohforchrissake... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:30 PM |
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Sep-28-07 02:33 PM |
#147 |
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"Why the f**k do DUers keep nominating these threads?" |
Zandor |
Sep-28-07 03:01 PM |
#157 |
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What is your platform? The "Democrats like you" who are getting louder & whose voices are unheard? |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 03:11 PM |
#159 |
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I love diverse opinions, really. But you are starting some odd discussions |
paxmusa |
Sep-28-07 03:13 PM |
#160 |
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'a certain slick, devisive precision' |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 03:21 PM |
#162 |
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Well if people were slightly brighter |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 06:05 AM |
#176 |
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Yes, exactly. Too many DUers are playing right into it and I wonder |
paxmusa |
Sep-29-07 10:45 AM |
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Why do you say "DUers" --- as if you are NOT one? hmmmmm? |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Oct-05-07 02:07 AM |
#195 |
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Show me a homophobic asshole on DU or in the real world. |
Evoman |
Sep-28-07 03:05 PM |
#158 |
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You are confusing religious people with spiritual people |
Juniperx |
Sep-28-07 03:14 PM |
#161 |
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And those few that don't like haggis, it's hard to consider True Scotsmen. |
LeftyMom |
Sep-28-07 03:24 PM |
#163 |
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I could take considerable offense at that remark. |
baby_mouse |
Oct-02-07 03:51 PM |
#188 |
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that is simply not true, have you never studied history? |
pitohui |
Sep-28-07 03:30 PM |
#164 |
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So what's/who's stopping them? The Pope? God? n/t |
scorpiogirl |
Sep-28-07 03:32 PM |
#165 |
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. |
Zenlitened |
Sep-28-07 08:28 PM |
#168 |
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Zen, Zen, Zen. Why did you kick this steaming pile of crap? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-29-07 01:36 AM |
#169 |
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The stink is coming from one clearly identifiable direction. |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:37 AM |
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indeed it is |
sniffa |
Oct-02-07 11:02 AM |
#185 |
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First of all, you mis-spelled, |
Beerboy |
Sep-29-07 05:54 AM |
#175 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-29-07 10:07 PM |
#179 |
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Talk about a patently false statement (nm) |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Oct-01-07 03:58 PM |
#184 |
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Zandor approves of gay marriage. Bravo! |
gatorboy |
Oct-02-07 11:18 AM |
#187 |
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My Bullshit-o-Meter just went haywire. |
Jamastiene |
Oct-02-07 08:57 PM |
#191 |
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