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Wed Sep-26-07 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #80 |
| -I think if religious people had thier way, we'd extend tolerance and love to Gays in this country. |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:30 PM |
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Do you make a living out of making provocative, false statements? |
Flabbergasted |
Sep-26-07 12:32 PM |
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No, it's just his hobby here at DU. nm |
dicksteele |
Sep-27-07 07:29 AM |
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This is as much BS as the OP it is a copycat of. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:32 PM |
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yeah tell em troll. tell em. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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I'm tempted to start my own thread now. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:42 PM |
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It has, however, successfully proven |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:33 AM |
#171 |
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Does tolerance include gay rights? The right to marry? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:32 PM |
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Depends on the faith |
Prophet 451 |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
#69 |
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People in my |
Irishonly |
Sep-28-07 02:47 PM |
#151 |
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what bullshit. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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Religous people are good people, by and large |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:38 PM |
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umm yeah, this is why theocracies are such examples of love peace and kindess |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:39 PM |
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"In this country" - America |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:46 PM |
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this is what you said 'Religous people are good people, by and large' |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:48 PM |
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I was refering to religous people in America |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:52 PM |
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so only american religious people are good, the rest are crappy. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:53 PM |
#30 |
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Didn't say that |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:54 PM |
#31 |
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as i said on gd before, america's slogan should be "we could be much worse" |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
#33 |
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hey...don't be bashing America. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
#36 |
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Yes, much worse |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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ok so irans worse. no one is denying that. how is that related to goodness of american religious |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
#44 |
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Somebody brought it up |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:00 PM |
#49 |
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you did. not post 13. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:00 PM |
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Is your hatred of religious people, as a group, any more justifiable? |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:36 AM |
#183 |
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i dont hate religious people as a group. and no my ideal regime wouldnt burn anybody |
lionesspriyanka |
Oct-02-07 07:38 PM |
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As long as we're two degrees above absolute shit we're great! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
#43 |
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LOL |
Scurrilous |
Sep-26-07 12:54 PM |
#32 |
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Why are you offended by that? You agree with half of it. |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:28 AM |
#170 |
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So a religious Iranian is not a "good person"? |
SOS |
Sep-28-07 11:10 AM |
#133 |
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Really? Then why is it that just about the only reason people give as to why gay marriage should |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:40 PM |
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It's thier religous belief, for many |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:48 PM |
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They oppose it because of their RELIGIOUS BELIEFS! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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hmm... |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
#47 |
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Yeah, and religion also says that women should be subordinate to men |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
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I'm not sure a persons religious beliefs |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
#67 |
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but that's not true |
Bill McBlueState |
Sep-28-07 10:26 AM |
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Sep-28-07 11:05 AM |
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just as long as they don't do that icky same sex - homosexhul - marriage girlyboy bikerdyky thingy. |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:34 PM |
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It's a big stretch |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
#34 |
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The OP is not about executing gays, it says that there would be love and tolerance |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
#38 |
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fair enough |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:01 PM |
#51 |
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whew - that make is OK then... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:42 PM |
#150 |
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not really - its just one small step... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:39 PM |
#149 |
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are they against DADT? |
varun |
Sep-26-07 01:03 PM |
#55 |
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Following the upheaval in the Episcopal Church much? |
PassingFair |
Sep-27-07 08:16 AM |
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I don't disagree with you. |
PassingFair |
Sep-27-07 08:18 AM |
#102 |
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Religious people account for more death and torture than all the other people added together. |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:45 AM |
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When you account for the deaths in the Soviet Union |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:26 AM |
#180 |
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And atheists are bad people, by and large? |
Ignis |
Oct-03-07 01:49 PM |
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You mean religious people do NOT get their way? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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I think it's more a matter that most religious people dont want to politicize what they believe. |
StrongBad |
Sep-26-07 12:37 PM |
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I think you may be confusing spirituality with religion |
KitchenWitch |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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A fair point |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:37 PM |
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and my experience is : not so much. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:44 PM |
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Tolerance and love |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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i am not talking legality. you can perform a same sex wedding without it having any state/fed rights |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:51 PM |
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As is thier right |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 12:56 PM |
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but not as much as they love/tolerate straights? |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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Which Religions Would Those Be? |
Crisco |
Sep-26-07 01:12 PM |
#70 |
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except for all that SEX part... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:48 PM |
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That is EXACTLY what I was going to say. There is a lot of 'religion' without spirituality. n/t |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:49 AM |
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I agree, KW. |
I Have A Dream |
Oct-02-07 11:10 AM |
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Your statement |
H2O Man |
Sep-26-07 12:33 PM |
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It does seem to that. But the OP was just trying to be nice and got |
King Coal |
Sep-28-07 03:39 PM |
#166 |
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So true! |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:28 AM |
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Define what you mean by "if religious people had their way", please. |
impeachdubya |
Sep-26-07 12:36 PM |
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To a great extent, they do |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
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You didn't answer my question, though:Are you trying to say that religious people are inherently |
impeachdubya |
Sep-26-07 02:37 PM |
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Sep-26-07 12:38 PM |
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Ahh, I see. It's the Atheists that are the homophobes... |
SidDithers |
Sep-26-07 12:46 PM |
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yeah we are such bastards/ |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:47 PM |
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many are. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:49 PM |
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And so are many religious...nt |
SidDithers |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
#48 |
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no disagreemnent there. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 01:06 PM |
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I may not be religious..... |
demgurl |
Sep-28-07 11:42 AM |
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What percentage, exactly? |
Ignis |
Oct-03-07 01:51 PM |
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Yep |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Sep-26-07 03:10 PM |
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You are the judge of what constitutes "religious"? |
Selatius |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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Then why haven't they? Why is it that every major religion is anti-gay? |
Beelzebud |
Sep-26-07 12:50 PM |
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Don't hold your breath waiting for recommendations on this thread... |
bullwinkle428 |
Sep-26-07 12:52 PM |
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You have got to be kidding yourself |
supernova |
Sep-26-07 12:55 PM |
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No... |
dicksteele |
Sep-27-07 07:34 AM |
#100 |
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on a side note...what exactly is tolerance? |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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Apparently it means they don't lock you up and execute you. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 12:58 PM |
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tolerance is apparanly the lack of hanging in public squares. so long as we arent doing that |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Tolerance doen't mean acceptance or affirmation |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:05 PM |
#56 |
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You're comparing tolerance of a sport...to the acceptance of legal rights. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:05 PM |
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so we should tolerate gays in the same way we tolerate a crappy sport? |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:06 PM |
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EXACTLY! don't you people get it?!?! They're really NICE people!!! |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:53 PM |
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do you think gay people or nascar fans need you to condone them? |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:08 PM |
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no... but there seems to be a cult of affirmation |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:13 PM |
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"Maybe they don't buy into every bit of gay rights" |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:14 PM |
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I tolerate blacks, I just don't think they should share the same stuff as whites or vote |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:16 PM |
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excellent!!! i mean we dont have to buy their whole point about equality now do we? |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:17 PM |
#76 |
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"Tolerance doen't mean acceptance or affirmation" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-26-07 01:21 PM |
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that's a strawman |
PDenton |
Sep-26-07 01:24 PM |
#85 |
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thats not a strawman. gays and straights dont enjoy the same rights. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-27-07 07:23 AM |
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It's hardly a strawman. It's a clear, direct comparison. |
dicksteele |
Sep-28-07 02:58 AM |
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WOW! |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:57 PM |
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manonman SEX!!! EEEEK!!! but they could watch girlongirlsex - THAT'S HOT!!!!! |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:55 PM |
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sadly that might be a better way to change people's negative attitudes... |
tigereye |
Oct-03-07 01:16 PM |
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Gay rights? Guess what, gay people are---people and they are entitled to the same rights |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:17 PM |
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i guess my brilliant marketing has atleast worked on you. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:19 PM |
#79 |
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indeed! Plastics are the future young lady and i think you have one helluva |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:21 PM |
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your use of the word tolerance is bigoted and offensive. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 01:25 PM |
#87 |
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... |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:26 PM |
#89 |
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thank you for your tolerance. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-26-07 01:28 PM |
#90 |
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Indeed. |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 09:06 AM |
#105 |
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Uh oh. Looks like this one got TS'd. |
quantessd |
Oct-02-07 04:32 PM |
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No True Scotsman n/t |
Kelly Rupert |
Sep-26-07 12:57 PM |
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The eternal defense. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 10:34 AM |
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um what? Aren't you the same person that wants to bomb Iran and now you're |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
#53 |
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Nope |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:08 PM |
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right uh huh sure. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:09 PM |
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Of course. It's all the World's Most Obvious Facade. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 10:50 AM |
#126 |
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You aren't from my part of the country, are you? |
mmonk |
Sep-26-07 01:02 PM |
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Looks like somebody is bored. |
Breeze54 |
Sep-26-07 01:06 PM |
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Depends on the religion and the believer |
Prophet 451 |
Sep-26-07 01:08 PM |
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Yes, religions have ALWAYS been a beacon of understanding |
Goblinmonger |
Sep-26-07 01:10 PM |
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That's not true |
terrya |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
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the op is describing tolerance only by the lack of imprisonment and killing |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:11 PM |
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Nope. |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:14 PM |
#73 |
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read what you have to say yourself and your idiotic circular arguments |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-26-07 01:15 PM |
#74 |
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Go right up to post 1 |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:18 PM |
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you know what i saw the message board you started and after reading your posts |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:19 PM |
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Link or cached page? |
GoneOffShore |
Sep-26-07 01:23 PM |
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check your pm ok? |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:24 PM |
#84 |
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Can I get in |
Zandor |
Sep-26-07 01:25 PM |
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sorry dude, i'm not religious so i don't have to tolerate you or your flamefests any longer. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-26-07 01:26 PM |
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Got it. |
GoneOffShore |
Sep-26-07 01:40 PM |
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So, if you don't imprison and torture somebody for something you disagree with, you are tolerant? |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:48 AM |
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That was the other thread's standard, actually. |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:35 AM |
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You're holding all religious people responsible for the view of |
treestar |
Oct-01-07 05:30 AM |
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"..those few": Few? They carried the election for Bush** twice on hatred and |
AlinPA |
Sep-26-07 01:28 PM |
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The religious people want to make this country & the world a better place. |
baldguy |
Sep-26-07 01:28 PM |
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you're begging for this shit |
hiphopnation23 |
Sep-26-07 01:46 PM |
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Religious is too broad a term here... |
Solon |
Sep-26-07 01:47 PM |
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The MLK avatar is a nice touch, btw. |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 02:54 AM |
#103 |
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.. |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 09:07 AM |
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Aren't we LUCKY not to have been rounded up by now? |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 09:13 AM |
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well they just have to 'tolerate us'....and so long as we are a few steps above iran |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 09:14 AM |
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I credit the religious people for looking out for us. |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 09:15 AM |
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you know the same people who have the 2 lines from leviticus tattooed on their brain |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 09:17 AM |
#110 |
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Hey! |
DuStrange |
Sep-29-07 10:06 PM |
#178 |
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Shouldn't you be trolling MySpace for cannon fodder? |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:38 AM |
#174 |
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Good thing she/he made a "support the troops" thread - else she/he'd have trouble.. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 10:52 AM |
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! |
Raster |
Sep-28-07 11:02 AM |
#128 |
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All religion is poison, it doesn't matter whom you believe to be |
NoFederales |
Sep-28-07 09:19 AM |
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I can't find this |
Enthusiast |
Sep-28-07 09:47 AM |
#112 |
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well look upthread: i think by 'tolerance' they mean 'not killing, imprisoning or maiming" |
lionesspriyanka |
Sep-28-07 10:15 AM |
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Is your post for the original OP? Mine is contrary: Religion is poison. nt |
NoFederales |
Sep-28-07 11:27 AM |
#136 |
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Hehehe, 115 replies and only 1 rec... |
SidDithers |
Sep-28-07 10:16 AM |
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Riiiiiiiiiight. |
Oregonian |
Sep-28-07 10:22 AM |
#115 |
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I hate to tell you this but... |
youthere |
Sep-28-07 10:28 AM |
#117 |
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but religious people do have their way |
Bill McBlueState |
Sep-28-07 10:32 AM |
#118 |
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EXACTLY. |
youthere |
Sep-28-07 10:35 AM |
#120 |
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Jesse Ventura.... A congressman in california... Thats about it. |
TheUniverse |
Sep-28-07 11:10 AM |
#134 |
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Clearly you don't live near a Southern Baptist megachurch |
Rob H. |
Sep-28-07 10:41 AM |
#121 |
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Amen. n/t |
renie408 |
Sep-28-07 10:46 AM |
#123 |
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This is pure flamebait and it devalues your other threads and posts |
yardwork |
Sep-28-07 11:04 AM |
#129 |
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No it doesn't - they're exactly the same value. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 11:09 AM |
#132 |
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OOH! SNAP! |
youthere |
Sep-28-07 11:10 AM |
#135 |
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I disagree |
Zandor |
Sep-28-07 11:57 AM |
#140 |
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I've yet to see a thread by you |
charlie |
Sep-28-07 12:00 PM |
#141 |
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Sorry you feel the need to make a personal attack |
Zandor |
Sep-28-07 12:03 PM |
#142 |
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"we're all progressives here" |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-28-07 02:50 PM |
#153 |
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Fair & Balanced, eh Zandor? |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-28-07 12:16 PM |
#143 |
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As subtle as a heart attack, isn't it? |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 02:26 PM |
#144 |
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HEY! Be nice Bluebear! Just be nice. |
King Coal |
Sep-28-07 03:51 PM |
#167 |
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Religion is the belief in stupid stuff for no legitimate reason. |
TheUniverse |
Sep-28-07 11:08 AM |
#131 |
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I am not sure about that. |
demgurl |
Sep-28-07 11:31 AM |
#137 |
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!!?? |
ronnie624 |
Sep-28-07 11:53 AM |
#139 |
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depends on your meaning of 'religious' |
spanone |
Sep-28-07 02:27 PM |
#145 |
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ohforchrissake... |
TankLV |
Sep-28-07 02:30 PM |
#146 |
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Sep-28-07 02:33 PM |
#147 |
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"Why the f**k do DUers keep nominating these threads?" |
Zandor |
Sep-28-07 03:01 PM |
#157 |
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What is your platform? The "Democrats like you" who are getting louder & whose voices are unheard? |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 03:11 PM |
#159 |
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I love diverse opinions, really. But you are starting some odd discussions |
paxmusa |
Sep-28-07 03:13 PM |
#160 |
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'a certain slick, devisive precision' |
Bluebear |
Sep-28-07 03:21 PM |
#162 |
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Well if people were slightly brighter |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 06:05 AM |
#176 |
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Yes, exactly. Too many DUers are playing right into it and I wonder |
paxmusa |
Sep-29-07 10:45 AM |
#177 |
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Why do you say "DUers" --- as if you are NOT one? hmmmmm? |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Oct-05-07 02:07 AM |
#195 |
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Show me a homophobic asshole on DU or in the real world. |
Evoman |
Sep-28-07 03:05 PM |
#158 |
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You are confusing religious people with spiritual people |
Juniperx |
Sep-28-07 03:14 PM |
#161 |
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And those few that don't like haggis, it's hard to consider True Scotsmen. |
LeftyMom |
Sep-28-07 03:24 PM |
#163 |
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I could take considerable offense at that remark. |
baby_mouse |
Oct-02-07 03:51 PM |
#188 |
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that is simply not true, have you never studied history? |
pitohui |
Sep-28-07 03:30 PM |
#164 |
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So what's/who's stopping them? The Pope? God? n/t |
scorpiogirl |
Sep-28-07 03:32 PM |
#165 |
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. |
Zenlitened |
Sep-28-07 08:28 PM |
#168 |
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Zen, Zen, Zen. Why did you kick this steaming pile of crap? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-29-07 01:36 AM |
#169 |
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The stink is coming from one clearly identifiable direction. |
spoony |
Sep-29-07 05:37 AM |
#173 |
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indeed it is |
sniffa |
Oct-02-07 11:02 AM |
#185 |
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First of all, you mis-spelled, |
Beerboy |
Sep-29-07 05:54 AM |
#175 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-29-07 10:07 PM |
#179 |
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Talk about a patently false statement (nm) |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Oct-01-07 03:58 PM |
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Zandor approves of gay marriage. Bravo! |
gatorboy |
Oct-02-07 11:18 AM |
#187 |
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My Bullshit-o-Meter just went haywire. |
Jamastiene |
Oct-02-07 08:57 PM |
#191 |
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