Reply #118: It's exactly the same thing for men: YOU have the final say

[Raksha]

on what is or is not "masculine," both individually and collectively. I may have a voice but I do not have a veto. All I can talk about is my own experience of men, because that *IS* my experience which nobody can be the authority on except me.

As I said in my earlier post (the one you were responding to), men HAVE been defining the essence of both maleness AND femaleness for several thousand years now, and it's about time they granted women the same right to self-definition they have always claimed for themselves.

OTOH I haven't been waiting around for you guys to "grant" me anything. Years ago I claimed the right to self-definition and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it!