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Sat Apr-09-11 04:21 PM
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| 84. RED FLAG #1 -GAB director, Kevin Kennedy's illegal contract with Accenture |
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Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 04:50 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
Remember HAVA the “Help America Vote Act”? One of the requirements was for states to have a statewide list of voters. In 2004, Wisconsin’s State Elections Board director Kevin Kennedy put out a “request for proposal” to potential vendors to create the list.
While HAVA requires compliance in seven areas, Kennedy included over 500 criteria for vendors, including a nearly insurmountable requirement that the vendor had done a similar contract with at least one million voters in the past. This made Wisconsin vendors ineligible, and opened the door to only the few companies that could meet the requirement, including Accenture.
Here is an excerpt from a Madison WI Capital Times article, published Sept. 2005:
John Nichols: Elections chief owes us explanation By John Nichols - September 22, 2005
(In 2004) Kennedy was lobbying to award a $13.9 million contract for the creation of a statewide voter database to the controversial technology giant Accenture.
Kennedy was told at the time that the price tag for the project was far too high - Minnesota got its database work done for about $5 million. Kennedy was told that Accenture had a problematic track record - the company's work on voter registration and other technology issues has drawn criticism in states across the country.
In Florida, where officials were trying to clean up their elections after the 2000 presidential recount debacle, the St. Petersburg Times newspaper reported, "The state then turned to Accenture, a huge consulting and technology firm, to create a list that election supervisors were to use this year to screen felons whose voting rights had not been restored. But the list proved inaccurate." In Kansas, Accenture was hired to develop a voter registration system but the relationship proved so troublesome that the state canceled the contract several months later.
As more was learned about the cost of the project and the company involved, Kennedy was counseled to change course by state legislators, experts in elections and state politics and groups working for clean government. Hundreds of Wisconsinites rallied outside the Elections Board headquarters to urge Kennedy and the board to reject the Accenture contract.
(*Many labor union members protested that day, and non-union members too, including me) ... Wisconsin vendors warned that the state was being "fleeced" and detailed how the project could be completed - with much of the work being done by current state employees - for far less.
When the board followed Kennedy's recommendation and decided to go ahead with the Accenture deal, officials with election reform organizations, heads of public employee unions and state Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Madison, grew so concerned that they filed suit in an attempt to block the deal.
Kennedy would not listen. In fact, he kept cheerleading for the Accenture deal even as Elections Board employees quietly warned that things were not going well.
*(Kennedy signed it anyway, without the Board's approval. Several people sued the state over the contract, saying it was illegally awarded to Accenture because Kevin Kennedy signed the agreement before the board voted on it).
In July, Kennedy wrote an opinion piece published in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel under the headline, "New state voter registration system is right on track." At the time, the Elections Board had already quietly approved an additional $1.4 million in funding for what was already an excessively costly project. Now, just two months later comes a new Journal Sentinel headline: "Voter registration system delayed: Testing finds too many errors to meet deadline."
To the surprise of no one, except perhaps Kevin Kennedy, testing by Elections Board staff and volunteer clerks revealed multiple system errors in the state's new voter registration and election management software. According to the Journal Sentinel report of last week: The system "is not ready, and the deadline to comply with the federal Help America Vote Act of 2002 won't be met."
...Kennedy owes Wisconsinites a lot more than a late-in-the-game expression of dissatisfaction. He owes us an explanation for why, when so many people in this state warned him that he was making the wrong deal with the wrong company, he encouraged the board to go ahead with it anyway.
And he needs to explain why, if Accenture's performance has proved unsatisfactory, he continues to refer to the firm as Wisconsin's "partner"? Isn't it time to consider canceling the contract and putting Wisconsin vendors and state employees to work on a simple project that could have been completed months ago at a fraction of the cost?
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| -Wisconsin is NOT hand counting the ballots- only comparing voter rolls with diebold tabulated result |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:06 PM |
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I believe they can ask for a hand recount. If I can find the |
shraby |
Apr-09-11 03:09 PM |
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They can ask for one, but it has to be approved by a judge |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 03:15 PM |
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Are they asking for a hand recount throughout the state? |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:24 PM |
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They can't request a recount until the canvas is complete |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 03:31 PM |
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Not true. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:28 PM |
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what is not true? |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:29 PM |
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Or there's this |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:30 PM |
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People have posted the legal statutes for you, that means more than a radio interview |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 03:36 PM |
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Except the radio interview was with the director of agency responsible |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:56 PM |
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Did the Koch brothers fund the DLC? Answer YES!! Would the Republicans put moles in the Dem party? |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:58 PM |
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lolz |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:58 PM |
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But you have no proof of it at this time, just speculation. |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:03 PM |
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election law proves that Kevin Kennedy is lying |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 04:04 PM |
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The law means more than a radio interview, even if that interview is with the director |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:06 PM |
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lolz. we'll see |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:08 PM |
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Laugh all you want, you still haven't answered my question. |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:15 PM |
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The law says a candidate can request a hand count... and guess what, they ALL do. Court order is NOT |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:16 PM |
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No they can request a machine recount without a court order, a hand recount is different |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:20 PM |
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And they will request a hand recount and a judge will give it to them. |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:22 PM |
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There will be a lot of pressure on the judge to deny it |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:24 PM |
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And THEN aliens will land in Madison and kill all of our Democratic reps. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:26 PM |
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Stop with the ad hominems, the law was cited for you |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:32 PM |
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lol, ok we will see. I'll also bet YOU $1 we get a hand-recount |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:36 PM |
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We may get a hand recount, but I bet you $100 it won't happen without a judge's order |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:38 PM |
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Yes - Remember all the problems with the Florida recounts due to uncooperative judges? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 04:32 PM |
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This is true at least for Opti-scan ballots |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 03:32 PM |
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Seriously: |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:33 PM |
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Nikki, I am not going to take time to look at your link. What I posted is a simple fact |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 03:36 PM |
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It is, and in a way you and the interview PeaceNikki posted are covering two different things. |
sybylla |
Apr-09-11 04:31 PM |
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Not true. Listen to it. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:32 PM |
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No need to take my word for it. There are 72 county clerks in this state who will tell you so. |
sybylla |
Apr-09-11 11:53 PM |
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Were the ones you observed hand counted under court order? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 04:45 PM |
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Not under court order. Simply requested by a candidate. |
sybylla |
Apr-09-11 11:35 PM |
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Oh Boy - the DRE tapes are recounted by hand... |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-10-11 02:30 PM |
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he is LYING!!! You understand LYING?? |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:37 PM |
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lolz. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:56 PM |
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Nikki, the law seems pretty clear. |
tammywammy |
Apr-09-11 04:24 PM |
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He's the director of the agency responsible for certification and recount |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:28 PM |
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I didn't dispute that he's the director |
tammywammy |
Apr-09-11 04:32 PM |
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But, Wisconsin law does call for full recount unlike Ohio law c2004 targeted sample |
blm |
Apr-09-11 03:11 PM |
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THIS IS NOT THE RECOUNT! |
MineralMan |
Apr-09-11 03:13 PM |
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they certainly are pretending this is somehow checking into the election problems |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:25 PM |
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This is the official canvass. It's required before the election can |
MineralMan |
Apr-09-11 03:29 PM |
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they are going to certify it based on this bullshit |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:31 PM |
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I don't think they can undertake a recount until the canvassing is done |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-09-11 03:12 PM |
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Kennedy has said he trusts this county clerk |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:23 PM |
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Do you mean Kevin Kennedy, Gov't Accountability Board supervisor? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 03:30 PM |
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yes, the person blatantly lying in that interview |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:42 PM |
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lolz |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:58 PM |
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RED FLAG #1 -GAB director, Kevin Kennedy's illegal contract with Accenture |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 04:21 PM |
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illegally awarded to Accenture because Kevin Kennedy signed the agreement before the board voted on |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 04:52 PM |
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He keeps a clean facade but I do not trust him |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 04:55 PM |
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Well, hell... this doesn't look good at all. Thanks for the info, though. n/t |
Tatiana |
Apr-09-11 05:30 PM |
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No it doesn't - it is a bummer. |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 05:37 PM |
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So his shadiness is Accentuate and appearing at the same place as Theresa LePore? |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 06:33 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-09-11 08:04 PM |
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For one thing, he accepted favors from Diebold, Sequoia , ES&S, and Accenture |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-10-11 09:33 AM |
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RED FLAG # 2 - Kevin Kennedy shills for Accenture @ ES&S-Diebold-Sequoia Conference |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 04:29 PM |
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one of the speakers at this RW THUG event - guess who else was a speaker-- THERESA LEPORE! |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 04:53 PM |
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see post 168 for more details on why this is a RED FLAG ^ |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-10-11 09:37 AM |
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Recounts are done for a 5$ fee per ward |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-09-11 03:37 PM |
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Where EXACTLY did he say he "trusts this county clerk"? |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:02 PM |
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Kennedy is an admin. ..not the board. The board is made up of retired judges. |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 05:02 PM |
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Correct -- a recount can't be requested until the election has been certified. n/t |
gkhouston |
Apr-09-11 05:58 PM |
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I don't trust anything they do |
Zax2me |
Apr-09-11 03:18 PM |
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Given how many times we have been burned, It's hard - I hear ya-nt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 03:31 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-09-11 03:19 PM |
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Why? Has nothing been learned? |
JackRiddler |
Apr-09-11 03:19 PM |
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Here ya go. |
Tx4obama |
Apr-09-11 03:24 PM |
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the candidate has to specifically go to court for a HAND RECOUNT |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:27 PM |
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Stop it. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:30 PM |
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you stop it |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:33 PM |
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lol, ok we will see. I'll bet you $1 we get a hand-recount |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:34 PM |
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thanks for showing your confidence in your 'facts' |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:56 PM |
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Who are YOU!? |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:57 PM |
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A full recount by hand. |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:14 PM |
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We want a full recount by hand, the problem is we may not get it |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:17 PM |
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Okay, but we will get a hand recount! |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:19 PM |
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No it doesn't. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:19 PM |
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Yes it does, the law was cited to you more than once but I guess I need to cite it again |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:48 PM |
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ok, I stand corrected on that piece and I contend that GAB is fully expecting this happening |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:50 PM |
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Thanks, I admire that |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:55 PM |
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I don't think for a second that Kennedy was LYING. I believe ALL recount petitions go thru court |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:04 PM |
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I so sympathize, PeaceNikki. You live there, and you are very familiar with rules and |
Bumblebee |
Apr-09-11 03:55 PM |
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Thanks. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:34 PM |
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Kloppenburg's attorney is Marc Elias... |
SidDithers |
Apr-09-11 03:37 PM |
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NO SHIT. In certification, yes. On recount they WILL |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:28 PM |
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+1... |
SidDithers |
Apr-09-11 03:30 PM |
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Agree. |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 03:36 PM |
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what indisputable facts? |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:45 PM |
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That the votes were already counted before she 'found them' |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:01 PM |
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why would an intelligent person think one person saying something is fact |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:54 PM |
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Well. the person in question knows what they are talking about |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:20 PM |
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I see, I thought we were a nation of laws, but we are a nation of rush limbaughs? |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 04:29 PM |
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What exactly are this person's credentials? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 05:11 PM |
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Mine? I don't post those on the internets. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:36 PM |
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I think it is really important that Wisconsin takes a look at this Kevin Kennedy, Director of GAB |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:39 PM |
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Yes. DUers should take a look at posters who are pushing lies...nt |
SidDithers |
Apr-09-11 03:41 PM |
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I agree |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:44 PM |
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Yes it is quite clear. Here it is. |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 04:02 PM |
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Yes, nothing about a "court order" as is being pushed here. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:04 PM |
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one more time - PEOPLE LIE, THE LAW DOES NOT! |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 04:08 PM |
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k. simmer down, cowgirl. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:09 PM |
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It's quite simple...she had the data off site on her own laptop. Bad Jue Jue. |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 04:35 PM |
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It has already been cited for you, but I guess you need it cited again |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-09-11 04:46 PM |
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Why would he lie on-air about that? |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:58 PM |
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Yes |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:02 PM |
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so that people will donate money thinking they are getting a real recount |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 04:02 PM |
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Wow, that's a kooky theory! |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:05 PM |
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It is you who has been telling everyone to STFU based on one guy saying something |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 04:14 PM |
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lolz |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:17 PM |
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Okay this IS sad. |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:23 PM |
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Me, too. I am going to enjoy some fresh air while I can since THE SKY IS FALLING!! |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:23 PM |
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So what are you saying? That the Dems involved are working for the Koch |
Rex |
Apr-09-11 04:05 PM |
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This is just another in dozens of republican voting scams - as the fucking idots believe every word |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 03:44 PM |
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well said! |
liberal life |
Apr-09-11 03:58 PM |
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Thanks, perhaps I will thread it..... |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 04:04 PM |
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Good thing it *is* being investigated on a non-partisan level, then, huh? |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 03:59 PM |
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What do YOU think? |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 04:03 PM |
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About what? |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:05 PM |
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Here's what I think: |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:10 PM |
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LOL! What does a republican partisan who's done it before "have to gain" |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 04:26 PM |
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"Get real girl" does not answer the "what does she have to gain?" question. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:31 PM |
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Are you for real? |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 04:36 PM |
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By burying 14k votes in which he gained 7.5k?? |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:38 PM |
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Perfectly enough votes needed for ex-boss Prosser to avoid triggering an "official" state recount! |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 04:43 PM |
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uh... all recounts are "official" and all are initiated by petitioner. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:45 PM |
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WRONG! |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 04:54 PM |
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There's no such thing as "automatic". Even under .5% requires a petition. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:58 PM |
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Absolutely, the half percent is about $ only. n/t |
rzemanfl |
Apr-09-11 05:08 PM |
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It's AUTOMATICALLY paid for by the sate of WI if it is below a certain percntage! |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 05:09 PM |
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I know! I said that! |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:10 PM |
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Your semantics don't matter, because of the bullshit "lost" votes "found" now puts extreme |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 05:17 PM |
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$5 per ward. A pittance compared to what's been spend on this race. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:21 PM |
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And indeed if a recount does occur perpaps then you'll see how easy it is to hack & steal elections |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 05:36 PM |
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As I've said over and over and over |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:38 PM |
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The light was shined on her for discrepancies many time before & she got through it.... |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 05:46 PM |
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lol, you want *me* to explain/defend her actions!?!? Nope, not happening |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:47 PM |
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There is no way that I buy into Kathy Nickolaus’ near-tearful explanation of how Brookfield was |
GreenTea |
Apr-09-11 06:02 PM |
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tl;dr |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 06:29 PM |
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You've hit the nail right on the head. |
emcguffie |
Apr-10-11 05:20 AM |
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Wisconsin doesn't have automatic recount - surprised me too-nt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 05:17 PM |
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I think she was dinking with the overall numbers and adjusting percentages |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 04:47 PM |
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Which would fall in line with my theory: |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:53 PM |
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...and who is going to do a recount in Waukesha county... that is always strong Republican. |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 05:06 PM |
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Well I know some of the Waukesha Country Democrats and they are awesome. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:09 PM |
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Yes they are. |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 05:15 PM |
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Yes, CITY OF BROOKFIELD is first alphabetically. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:24 PM |
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Gotta love it. Her expertise while with the Republican Caucus was Repug vote forecasting |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 05:28 PM |
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That wouldn't work |
Tx4obama |
Apr-09-11 06:07 PM |
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Totals calculated on Op-scans, and sent by modem to a central tabulator. |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 06:11 PM |
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I know you are there on the ground and on top of things, but |
rzemanfl |
Apr-09-11 05:06 PM |
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diebold... |
mr clean |
Apr-09-11 04:01 PM |
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what do you want to bet that the couty totals will FLIP |
Rene |
Apr-09-11 04:07 PM |
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Good thing we have all of those votes on paper! |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 04:11 PM |
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Were the ballots secured? |
EFerrari |
Apr-09-11 05:27 PM |
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I am not familiar with the chain of custody of ballots. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 05:32 PM |
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Here's a link to a good article that everyone should read |
Tx4obama |
Apr-09-11 06:19 PM |
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After reading through this thread, I just want to say a couple of things... |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-09-11 06:49 PM |
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All of that, while interesting, is moot here. We vote on paper by law. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 07:08 PM |
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Moot? Did you actually read this post ? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 08:14 PM |
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YUP! |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 08:20 PM |
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Your paper ballot is fed into a machine that 'counts' the votes with 'TRADE SECRET' code. |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-09-11 09:04 PM |
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I think that is not the case if you are using DREs. |
emcguffie |
Apr-10-11 05:33 AM |
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Thank you for a voice of sanity in this thread! |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-09-11 09:48 PM |
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Exactly why a hand recount would be awesome |
dragonlady |
Apr-09-11 11:04 PM |
#161 |
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"Recounting the whole state would be an excellent test " |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-10-11 09:53 AM |
#170 |
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@PeaceNikki what's a good plan to get the MSM to get back behind this story? |
Imagevision |
Apr-09-11 09:57 PM |
#159 |
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Kloppenburg has an amazing attorney and team, I would defer to them. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-09-11 10:00 PM |
#160 |
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Since you're gonna be there... |
Ellipsis |
Apr-09-11 11:44 PM |
#163 |
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Take a look at this |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-10-11 08:09 AM |
#167 |
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thanks for that! |
liberal life |
Apr-10-11 10:54 AM |
#171 |
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kick |
liberal life |
Apr-10-11 09:01 PM |
#173 |
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Locked - |
dmr |
Apr-11-11 02:49 AM |
#174 |