Blair seeks new powers to attack rogue states

[ze_dscherman]

Tony Blair is appealing to the heads of Western governments to agree a new world order that would justify the war in Iraq even if Saddam Hussein's elusive weapons of mass destruction are never found.

It would also give Western powers the authority to attack any other sovereign country whose ruler is judged to be inflicting unnecessary suffering on his own people.

A Downing Street document, circulated among foreign heads of state who are in London for a summit, has provoked a fierce row between Mr Blair and the German Chancellor, Gerhard Schröder.

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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=424035

[Jack Rabbit]

1. Is Blair threatening to invade the US?

It sounds like it.

We need a regime change, too.

[AngryWhiteDemocrat]

2. Uh, oh....

It would also give Western powers the authority to attack any other sovereign country whose ruler is judged to be inflicting unnecessary suffering on his own people.

I think Tony wants to bomb the United States....

[qanda]

3. I was thinking the exact same thing!!!! nt

nt

[Eloriel]

4. Would this, like,

be retroactive authorization (aka: forgiveness) for what the US and UK did in Iraq?

Good God.

I wonder if this is the Bush Cabal's innovative idea for defusing this situation? Or if Tony dreamed this up all by himself? Either way, it's pretty repugnant.

Eloriel

[barbaraann]

5. Is he afraid of being tried as a war criminal?

Maybe that's it.

[saigon68]

11. RABID WAR POODLE

what a sight. A Rabid War Poodle of the prowl.

I'm sure there are dozens of Dictators quivering in their boots at the sight of this enforcer of Human Rights.

He'd better cover his own ass though he could end up in a cell next to Slobodan Milosevic.

[NYC]

8. A new world order to justify the war in Iraq would have to be

retroactive. They didn't have permission before they attacked.

Even worse, he is asking for a blank check to attack ANY country in the future.

What enables him to be so bold and arrogant? Is it because he thinks he did so well with the last war (Iraq)? Attack any country?

Is this all just a ploy to keep the populace in fear? Fear controls people well.

This whole thing is so unbelievable. Lunatics are running the asylum.

[LifeDuringWartime]

6. gah!

to agree a new world order

^--that bothers me in a very strange way.

[DavidDvorkin]

7. What wonderful timing, Tony!

Right now, he couldn't even get something along those lines through Parliament, I imagine, let alone get it approved by other heads of government and state.


http://www.dvorkin.com

[NNN0LHI]

9. Where are all of the Blair apologists who hang out around here now?

Now tell me again what a swell guy Blair is. Come on. Tell me. I am waiting. This fucker needs to be in a rubber room right now! And anyone who does not see that needs to be in one too.

Don

[Emillereid]

10. This is one desperate dude

I'm not sure if either he or Bushit are sufficiently sane to be fairly tried at their war crimes trial. Retroactive justification for war in the middle of an uproar about the justifications for the war is a little too 'in your face' for the Brits I suspect -- so I surmise Blair is totally off his rocker. Bushits is talking to God I'm sure asking him to make it all go away! Too late suckers!

[indictrichardperle]

12. The British people seek new powers

to fire Poodle's ass.

Complete and utter JackAss.

[inthecorneroverhere]

13. where is this row happening?

I wish I could draw. This would be a great cartoon:

Tony Blair and Gerhard Schröder are having their row in the canned goods section of the supermarket. Between the cans of tomato sauce, beets and sauerkraut, the following quote is heard:

Gerhard Schröder says, "Don't you ship these canned goods anywhere, especially not to any radio stations! Ve already learned zis lesson!"

Anyone get the subtle reference?

[NYC]

14. No, please explain.

Thanks.

[inthecorneroverhere]

21. why canned goods?

It's a reference to the "Canned Goods" plot that opened the attack on Poland in WWII on September 1, 1939.

In order to create a provocation against Poland, German agents attacked a radio station on the border with Poland. They set it up as if the Poles had attacked some Germans, but it was all a fake. The plot was done with bodies of some German prisoners who were put into Polish uniforms as a 'set-up.' The prisoners were the "canned goods." The Germans were plotting to make it look like Poland had attacked the Germans.

The invasion of Poland was a groundless preemptive strike.

[Dirk39]

15. I'm 100% with you, Tony!

If you help to make sure that the rogue isn't possible in our societies anymore, that liars and idiots like you or Bush can't become leaders in our states anymore, that people like you and Bush go to prison, then I'm 100% with you. And then we go for the Husseins, Bushs, Schroeders, Condulena Riefenrices in the rest of the world.
In solidarity with comrade Blair,
Dirk

[indictrichardperle]

17. Seriously, i am concerned

Poodle is suffering from mental illness. Something is very wrong with this guy.

[WhataBildeberger]

16. The reasoning is sound

but mechanizing it is an exceedingly bad idea. Who here would disagree with this sentiment:

"Where a population is suffering serious harm, as a result of internal war, insurgency, repression or state failure, and the state in question is unwilling or unable to halt or avert it, the principle of non-intervention yields to the international responsibility to protect."

This is the reasoning I've seen people present here for entering into Liberia. I agree with it in that case. But codified this way it also clearly is an attempt to provide ex post facto legitimacy to the illegal invasion of Iraq.

This is the sort of issue the UN Security Council exists to handle, on a case by case basis, relying on precedent but taking into account the specifics of each situation as it arises. Looks to me like Tony's continuing to declare the UN irrelevant. Hasn't he figured out yet that he's a political dead man?

[NYC]

18. Who defines "repression, state failure, suffering population", etc?

Very vague terms are being used. Deliberately vague terms.

[Dirk39]

20. These are no vague terms,...

Poodle is an idealist. Does he think that some aliens have build a real democrazy and that they would care about coming here and invade every single state in this world. A rogue-state like the USA is proud of being able to invade two countries at the same time, according to Cheney.
Maybe, the old socialist in Poodle is dreaming about all the people in the world get up stand up against their governments? But Tony, you should have told me this before the liberation of Iraq started. Old Leninist you are, just using Bush for tactical reasons, turning this idiot into a tool to support the world revolution.
Dirk

[indictrichardperle]

19. you mean

the idea of Poodle, Junior and their neo-con master minds deciding every country in the world is fair game to invade is "sane" ?

The idea of a security council is in no way to be confused with what Poodle is babbling about, he is deranged.

[Neutrino]

22. Blair is a Poodle that needs to be altered.

They say it improves disposition, and helps with aggressive
tendencies. ouch.

[saigon68]

23. YIKES--ALTERING CAN BE AN ICKY JOB

Holding him down.

But--- I agree he'd be a whole lot friendlier.

[rman]

24. So Blair admits this war isn't justified now

You know you'r screwed when even our world leaders seek justification after the fact.

[DoYouEverWonder]

25. Does this man look sane to you?

I don't think so. Poor Tony he was such a nice boy until he hooked up with that Bu$h crowd. Too bad his mother forget to teach him not to play with bullies. Look what it's turned him into.

As far as deciding who is or isn't a rogue nation, shouldn't that still be left up to the UN? It certainly shouldn't be up to one man, who is clearly off his rocker and may not even be PM by next month.

[saigon68]

26. A Scary Stare to be sure

Looks like a drunk at BAR Time

[haele]

27. Does Blair really want to be considered Bush Light?

Or is he just tired of the whole government game and is literally committing political suicide in such a way to go out with a bang.

I seriously think that if Blair wants to be a great politician, he really needs a little time out for a reality check. He ain't no Maggie Thatcher, doesn't have her back bench, and should really stop trying to emulate her.

Haele

[Capt_Nemo]

28. Does anybody really doubt now

where Blair's true allegiancies lie?

I always defended he is a neo-con mole. I rest my case.