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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:30 PM
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Microchips put into 1,000 unidentified bodies
Microchips put into 1,000 unidentified bodies

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2004/12/31/national/index.php?news=national_15939002.html
Published on December 31, 2004

Phuket - Authorities have installed microchips in about 1,000 bodies that have been autopsied pending claim by their relatives.

The microchip stores key data about the victim’s identity, so it will be easier for relatives to claim the bodies later.

An IT centre has also been opened with high-speed Internet links to the Public Health Ministry and Foreign Ministry and other government agencies that can offer information about the dead victims.
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PREPARE FOR EVERYONE TO BE MICRO-CHIPED IN THE FUTURE IN CASE OF ANOTHER TRADEGEDY. I personaly will never wear any tracking chip in my skin or under my skin.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:34 PM
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:36 PM
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2. welcome, lwbirds
i like that. chipped. back when i grew up, it was local slang for getting laid.

times are changing.

whalerider55
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:43 PM
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4. Welcome lwbrds!
:hi: A question, do they have a GPS tracker in case they are lost in the wilderness?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 07:15 PM
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7. Wow. Great idea. I grew up with a parrot. He hated me as a little kid
but learned to like me as a grown up.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:41 PM
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3. My doggie is chipped, me NEVER n/t
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:47 PM
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5. My dogs are all chipped too.
Makes sense, it's not expensive. In this case we're talking 20th century toe-tags.

Gruesome, but not worrisome. Now if they were designed to be tracked via GPS, I'd be worried... for at least two reasons.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:59 PM
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6. GPS = Global Positioning System
Actually doesn't track anything. You have a GPS receiver to pick up the signals sent by the system to determine where you are.

Chips in say, my dog, have a very weak signal, the "reader" has to be very close to the chip.

Theoretically, microchips could be produced that would broadcast on a frequency that could be picked up by satellites put up specifically for that purpose. I don't know if this has ever been done, but I imagine the gov't has tried it at some point.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 07:19 PM
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8. Why don't they use a toe tag?
Future scenario - biochemical attack (or one faked). Government declares Code Red. Martial law. Everyone is required to get a vaccine shot.

Perhaps a microchip could be small enough to put in that shot? Unknowing, millions of American citizens get microchipped.

Okay, okay, as you were -- maybe it's science fiction. Go back to celebrating the New Year.

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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:02 PM
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9. There are plans to start micro-chipping produce
to track it from grower to consumer.
Won't be long and you'll be eating chips.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:05 PM
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10. Chips for animals are not used to 'find' them through GPS.
Information is put on the chip so that if the pet is lost, the pet/owner can be identified.

If an animal is found wandering, and is taken somewhere that has the machine that reads these chips, they will use the machine to read the chip and locate the owner through that chip.

So the chip is only as good as the access to the machine. If your pet has a chip, is lost, and then found in an area where they don't use chips or the machines, the chip is worthless.

The chip can be very helpful if your pet is stolen. If the pet is found and someone else is claiming the animal belongs to them, one read of the chip will prove otherwise.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:13 PM
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11. No more GPS monopoly, and maybe the strength of the Asia quake
has made it inaccurate in a celestial mechanics way.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:34 PM
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12. Where did they get these "chips" being put in these bodies?
And without being paranoid, WHO is selling these "chips" to the government there? You think it'll be "suggested" that in case of FUTURE Tusami's, that the living be tagged there also. (What an interesting 'experiment' of these tracking devices...on a brown-skinned, Third World country.) And Jeb is traveling where, soon?

Just think, they get to make money "rebuilding" WITHOUT the "cost" of War beforehand. And what was the reference to "caves," and "mineral resources" that the natives didn't want people visiting? If there's something of value there...

Maybe "Shrub" wasn't being "cheap" after all in his "humanitarian aid" donations. Maybe what he's offering isn't entirely in a "dollar" amount.

Think about it, wars could be avoided in the future...if "natural disasters" could be created by tampering with Nature. And then the devastated areas, who need "aid"...would be actually occupied by "friendly" foreign troops (bringing aid)...which in exchange for the aid, later owed a "debt," and so agreed to keep foreign forces on their soil. In the ever-growing cost of War, why would an efficient Fascist regime bother at all with war...when Natural Disasters are far easier.

Tell me again, how the Tusami occurred?
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:35 PM
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13. They could "chip" the ballots...
and voting tape totals.

That might be another way to avoid war...and fascism.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:53 PM
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14. I'm still "levelling" the coincidence re: tsunami in PNAC territory.
Maybe, I'll catch up on the micro-chip thingy,...later.

:tinfoil:

I thought we were like,...so geologically-connected,...knowing the placements of plates and all. Yet, we anticipate possible shifts (and tsunamis) due to disturbances in one place and completely MISS this one? It's just way too,...weird.

I wonder if my former geology Professor is scratching his head. I'll bet he is.
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:45 AM
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22. Wilms posted this amazing link: Washington was aware a deadly Tidal Wave
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 01:29 PM by Skinner
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO412C.html
www.globalresearch.ca

Centre for Research on Globalisation
Centre de recherche sur la mondialisation

Foreknowledge of A Natural Disaster:

Washington was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean

by Michel Chossudovsky

www.globalresearch.ca 29 December 2004

The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/412A.html

(Revised Dec 31, with the release of more information as well as satellite images of affected areas)

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Magnitude 9 Cascadia Earthquake

More than three hundred years ago, at 9 PM on January 26, 1700 one of the world's largest earthquakes occurred along the west coast of North America. The undersea Cascadia thrust fault ruptured along a 1000 km length, from mid Vancouver Island to northern California in a great earthquake, producing tremendous shaking and a huge tsunami that swept across the Pacific.

These events are recorded in the oral traditions of the First Nations people on Vancouver Island. The tsunami swept across the Pacific also causing destruction along the Pacific coast of Japan. It is the accurate descriptions of the tsunami and the accurate time keeping by the Japanese that allows us to confidently know the size and exact time of this great earthquake.

The recognition of definitive signatures in the geological record tells us the January 26, 1700 event was not a unique event, but has repeated many times at irregular intervals of hundreds of years. Geological evidence indicates that 13 great earthquakes have occurred in the last 6000 years.

Natural Resources Canada http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seismo/hist/anniv.press.htm


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The US Military and the State Department were given advanced warning. America's Navy base on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean was notified.

Why were fishermen in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand not provided with the same warnings as the US Navy and the US State Department?

Why did the US State Department remain mum on the existence of an impending catastrophe?

With a modern communications system, why did the information not get out? By email, telephone, fax, satellite TV... ?

It could have saved the lives of thousands of people.  

The earthquake was a Magnitude 9.0 on the Richter scale, among the highest in recorded history. US authorities had initially recorded 8.0 on the Richter scale.

 

As confirmed by several reports, US scientists in Hawaii, had advanced knowledge regarding an impending catastrophe, but failed to contact their Asian counterparts.

Charles McCreery of the Pacific Warning Center in Hawaii confirmed that his team tried to get in touch with his counterparts in Asia.  According to McCreery, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's center in Honolulu, the team did its utmost to contact the countries. (The NOAA in Hawaii's Report at http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2357.htm ).


We started thinking about who we could call. We talked to the State Department Operations Center and to the military. We called embassies. We talked to the navy in Sri Lanka, any local government official we could get hold of," Hirshorn said. "We were fairly careful about who we called. We wanted to call people who could help."

(quoted in http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Dec/29/ln/ln05p.html )


 
TSUNAMI BULLETIN NUMBER 001

PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS ISSUED AT 0114Z 26 DEC 2004

THIS BULLETIN IS FOR ALL AREAS OF THE PACIFIC BASIN EXCEPT ALASKA - BRITISH COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON - CALIFORNIA.

TSUNAMI INFORMATION BULLETIN: THIS MESSAGE IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY. THERE IS NO TSUNAMI WARNING OR WATCH IN EFFECT.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS ORIGIN TIME - 0059Z 26 DEC 2004 COORDINATES - 3.4 NORTH 95.7 EAST LOCATION - OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATERA

MAGNITUDE - 8.0

EVALUATION: THIS EARTHQUAKE IS LOCATED OUTSIDE THE PACIFIC. NO DESTRUCTIVE TSUNAMI THREAT EXISTS BASED ON HISTORICAL EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI

DATA. THIS WILL BE THE ONLY BULLETIN ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT UNLESS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE.

 

 

Note the tone of the first Bulletin above. It downplays an imminent catastrophe. It points to a Magnitude 8.0 Earthquake, subsequently revised to 8.5 and then 9. (See the texts of all three Bulletins in annex to this article).

The Bulletin fails to underscore the seriousness of the situation. It states in a routine fashion. "There is no Tsunami Warning or Watch in Effect" . It does not make any statement as to what might happen in the Indian Ocean. Neither does it acknowledge that the country which is worst hit, namely Indonesia, is a member of the Pacific tsunami warning system along with Thailand and Singapore.

In fact, the Bulletin is grossly misleading on the extent of the catastrophe caused by the earthquake and the tsunami which had already hit Indonesia prior to the release of the Bulletin (01.14 GMT), on the North Sumatra Coastline and in Banda, Aceh. To state that there is no tsunami or tsunami warning is simply untrue. It had already happened!

We Did Not Know!

Nine (9.0) on the Richter scale: The Director of the Hawaii Warning Center stated that they did not know that the earthquake would generate a deadly seismic wave until it had hit Sri Lanka, more than one and a half hours later, at 2.30 GMT. (see Timeline below)


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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 01:57 AM
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18. Oil and gas industry unaffected by tsunami
http://www.topix.net/business/oil-gas
Oil and gas industry unaffected by tsunami
So far, American interests in the oil and gas industry in areas near those devastated by the tsunami along the coasts of Malaysia and Thailand have been unaffected, according to the American Petroleum ...
Daily Advertiser | Thursday Dec 30
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:00 AM
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19. Whaddya think of this?Earthquake: Coincidence or a Corporate Oil Tragedy?
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 01:28 PM by Skinner

Earthquake: Coincidence or a Corporate Oil Tragedy?
http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=1021...
December 28, 2004
By: Andrew Limburg
Independent Media TV
Material about:
Top Stories Ignored By U.S. Media
...On November 28th, one month ago, Reuters reported that during a 3 day span 169 whales and dolphins beached themselves in Tasmania, an island of the southern coast of mainland Australia and in New Zealand. The cause for these beachings is not known, but Bob Brown, a senator in the Australian parliament, said "sound bombing" or seismic tests of ocean floors to test for oil and gas had been carried out near the sites of the Tasmanian beachings recently.
According to Jim Cummings of the Acoustic Ecology Institute, Seismic surveys utilizing airguns have been taking place in mineral-rich areas of the world’s oceans since 1968. Among the areas that have experienced the most intense survey activity are the North Sea, the Beaufort Sea (off Alaska’s North Slope), and the Gulf of Mexico; areas around Australia and South America are also current hot-spots of activity.
The impulses created by the release of air from arrays of up to 24 airguns create low frequency sound waves powerful enough to penetrate up to 40km below the seafloor. The “source level" of these sound waves is generally over 200dB (and often 230dB or more), roughly comparable to a sound of at least 140-170dB in air.
According to the Australian Conservation Foundation, these 200dB – 230dB shots from the airguns are fired every 10 seconds or so, from 10 meters below the surface, 24 hours a day, for 2 week periods of time, weather permitting.
These types of tests are known to affect whales and dolphins, whose acute hearing and use of sonar is very sensitive.

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Additional Information:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&nci...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&nci...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&nci...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=516&nci...
http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9943...
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usslav.ht...
Image
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/ussjal.ht...

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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:04 AM
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20. And the biggest flipping earthquake in area, and Tsunami Center fails
to contact, or warn anyone adequately? There was around 2 hours between the earthquake and when the tsunami hit.

The whole thing feels so tragic and like the animals that headed inland, with any warning, how many thousands of lives could have potentially been saved?

I cannot sleep, thinking of all of the loss.

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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:27 AM
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23. Very interesting. I DO think there's more here than just a "natural" quake
I often wondered about the big one in Alaska in the 60's. Since oil drilling goes on up there, maybe something similar...

But the whale beaching thing IS significant. Here's hoping someone 'ties it together.'

All those lost lives...
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:24 AM
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25. Caves and mineral resources? The link doesn't work for me
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 06:35 AM by neweurope
for some reason :(

Chips implanted should be the least worry right now... sounds as if the Bushistas are using a cheap way to further test these chips that they wonna implant in all of you...

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Remember Fallujah!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:13 PM
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15. What about a smart tooth filling?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:20 PM
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16. I don't have a problem with this just as long as they are dead first. eom
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:32 AM
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24. On the news though they showed them burning piles of dead bodies
on the beach. Clearly they couldn't "keep" the huge number of bodies for health reasons. Why would they be putting "chips" in them, and then burning them? If the purpose of putting chips in them, was to trace them...this doesn't make sense.
So WHO did they put 10,000 'chips' in?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 01:00 PM
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26. White people? That's all they care about are the tourists? eom
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:17 PM
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17. here we go, folks!
step right up!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:11 AM
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21. I WANT EVERY DU'ER
TO PROMISE TO THEMSELVES THAT THEY WILL CALL THEIR CONGRESSMAN, THEN THEIR SENATOR, THEN THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE AND TELL THEM WHEN THIS EVENTUALLY HAPPENS IN ABOUT 10 YRS., THAT THEY BELIEVE THIS YOUR BODY IS YOURS AND THE GOV'T CANNOT FORCE A PERMANENT DEVICE INTO YOUR SYSTEM, JUST REMEMBER, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN EVENTUALLY, JUST PROMISE YOU'LL PROTEST LOUDLY!
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:37 PM
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27. I will not knowingly take the 666 chip
How hard would it be to slip one in without my knowing?
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:15 PM
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28. http://www.4verichip.com/


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