Bush Tells Troops 'Much More Will Be Asked of You'

[SillyGoose]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=1&u=/nm/20050119/pl_nm/bush_inaugural_dc

Among the 7,000 people in the audience were troops wounded in combat, 75 family members of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan (news - web sites) and as many as 80 winners of the Congressional Medal of Honor, the highest military award. The event was beamed to troop gatherings in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Bush told the troops that "much more will be asked of you in the months and years ahead."


"In Afghanistan and Iraq, the liberty that has been won at great cost now must be secured. We still face terrorist enemies who wish to harm our people, and are seeking weapons that would allow them to kill on an unprecedented scale. These enemies must be stopped, and you are the ones who will stop them."

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[Fleshdancer]

1. For the soldiers, now is the time to ask what your country can do for you

Our brothers and sisters need to come home now. If that will not be done, then they need more armor and equipment at the very VERY least.

[Mika]

4. They need a real president!! n/t

[Fleshdancer]

6. Just the thought seems so overly decadent these days. n/t

[truthseeker1]

14. You deal with the president you have, not the president you'd LIKE to have

I heard something like that somewhere.....hmm.... where was it? <sarcasm off>

[Malva Zebrina]

2. How pathetic nt

[mike_c]

3. definition of insanity....

He's a one trick pony, doing the same stupid trick over and over. Why are so many people fooled? I just don't get it.

[0007]

38. Me either!

:shrug:

[LibeMatt]

46. Some of them...

...sincerely believe him and/or really want to (with the help of the MSM--look at the Newsweek-SNL treatment of Bush's work habits this week), some fall under the rule of having a hard time believing things when their paycheck or fortune depend on not believing them, some don't believe it at all but are happy to benefit, and of course, many probably just don't want to belive they've been lied to and they've been supporting all sorts of things of which, when they think about it, they really don't approve. With the latter, at least, reality has a way of picking up larger and larger figurative baseball bats or 2x4s until the truth comes through. The problem is, oftentimes the denial-exacerbated damage wrought by then is much bigger than it would have been if those in denial had simply sucked it up and admitted they were fooled into supporting lethal and destructive flummery.

We've all heard, or read of, people who essentially say that if, for example, they just can't deal with it if their son/daughter/other relative is fighting in a BS war which is wrecking a country (I don't have the URL handy, but there was a story recently, I think I read of it originally on www.juancole.com and it was linked therefrom, that Falluja now may be uninhabitable due to residual dust from depleted uranium and other such wonders of modern war; this might have been on www.truthout.org). I hope those relatives come back safely, but we really can't as a nation keep bombing and occupying a country just to make a few people feel better about themselves.

[frictionlessO]

51. juancole.com and his informed comment is one of the most unbiased

and well thought out bloggers on the internet, especially in regards to all things Iraq and ME!!

Thanks for mentioning him!
juancole.com check it out.

[jmcgowanjm]

54. Odd Happenings in Fallujah-DahrJamail

According to him, this was also done in the Nazal,
Mualmeen, Jubail and Shuhada’a districts, and the
military began to do this after Eid, which was after
November 20th.

He told me he has watched the military use bulldozers to
push the soil into piles and load it onto trucks to carry away.
This was done in the Julan and Jimouriya quarters of the
city, which is of course where the heaviest fighting
occurred during the siege, as this was where resistance was
the fiercest.

“At least two kilometers of soil were removed,” he
explained, “Exactly as they did at Baghdad Airport after the
heavy battles there during the invasion and the Americans
used their special
weapons.”

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives//000173.php#more

[PROUDNWLIBERAL]

76. Hello Iran

That should produce a few more body bags. Thank God we don't have to see the dead and crippled. How many more will die for the criminally insane regime. God I hate Amerika!!!!!!!!!!!!! And what will the idiot troops say---I'M JUST DOING MY JOB---what a bunch of Nazi thugs!!!!!! If your a trooper and die I don't weep anymore!!!

[IceOwl]

79. Some people...

...are too easily amused, and can be fooled into believing that the same trick is a different one every time

[Straight Shooter]

5. Speaking of "unprecedented scale," what's the measure of bush's arrogance?

:nuke:

[Elwood P Dowd]

7. Much more was asked of you in 1972,

so what did you do? You went AWOL for two years during a time of war.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

16. it was God's will that he went AWOL

dincha hear? somebody had to stay home and support the Vietnam war, and God chose our glorious leader. He stayed in the Homeland and served us by learning the skills of cheerleading other people into their graves. It is divine Providence that he now harnesses those skills daily.

[Elwood P Dowd]

21. God also assigned him the tasks of

learning everything possible about booze and broads so he could council the poor, ignorant sinners later in life.

[Cha]

8. Yeah, and Once Again..not a damn thing

will be asked of the Chimp! No Accountability what so ever!

And our corporatewhore MSM is to blame!

[MnFats]

18. "When you're president, you don't have to answer to anybody."

from Woodward's book.
it's pretty close to verbatim.

[Cha]

22. Except if your name is

President Clinton.

[Pluvious]

67. The quote was...

"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."

-George W Bush

(Source: Woodward interview - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/17/60minutes/main529657.shtml)

[AuntiBush]

77. Had "somebody" explained

"something" to this CHIMP, maybe he could, well, you know, awww, well, of course, finish, you know, is sentence - yeah, a sen, well I mean...

Rove, Help! I need some es-plane-en!

[Canuckistanian]

9. Yeah!

Killing on an unprecedented scale is MY job! Now, watch this drive.

[phusion]

10. The enemies of Oceania will never rest!

God help us...

[ginnyinWI]

69. remember, Big Brother says:

War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength
Freedom is Slavery

[Lorien]

11. He's insane

repeating the same lies over and over again (with the mainstream press not calling him on them, as always). More horror for the people of Iraq, more suffering for our troops and their family members, all for a pack of lies. Sickening.

[Sleepless In NY]

13. "more will be asked of you...as for me I have inaugural parties to

attend" & "yeah we could have spent the 45 million on your armor, but me having a good time is more important" bush makes me so sick.

[Lorien]

23. Yep. No accountability AND no shame. n/t

[LibeMatt]

47. It's too bad...

...that Bush didn't have the sack or the initiative to take half that 40+ million and use it for armor, plan a subdued inauguration (we're at war, so they tell us), and tell those sponsors who gave that if they wanted their money back instead, they could have it, but he would loudly trumpet to the press on who had demanded their money back instead of helping the troops. (And if he were truly skilled at diplomacy, he'd quietly tell them that this would be a great PR move for their corporate reputations and never have to call them out in public.)

It also burns me that D.C. will have to gut its own Homeland Security funds to help cover security costs--this, I believe, is unprecedented in our history.

Of course, since D.C. voted against Bush, perhaps it is OK to screw them along with the rest of the blue states.

[DemoTex]

32. He is indeed insane, Lorien.

I did Vietnam under C-I-C Nixon, and that was bad enough. This is 1000X Vietnam. Believe me. I am appalled and heartbroken at where I find my dear country in 2005.

God have mercy upon us for our sins against man and nature; and God, please, damn George Bu$h to the lowest quadrant of hell if he works against your will.

Amen
DemoTex

[GHOSTDANCER]

34. Could this be the starting gun?

"Bush told the troops that "much more will be asked of you in the months and years ahead.""

[ClintonTyree]

72. Well, SOMEONE'S going to have to invade Iran............

and it won't be the old men in Washington. Young men dying for old men's ideas; it's always been so.

It's plain to see that Bush has his eyes on Iran and he's arrogant and demented enough to attempt it. I would hope that this is where our Congress draws the line in the sand. I would hope that this is where members of BOTH parties tell him, NO MORE! However, I'm not getting my hopes up.

George Bush belongs in a Psychiatric Ward, he has serious problems in distinguishing reality from fantasy. He has no business being a launch code away from the Earth's total destruction.

[GHOSTDANCER]

75. Scary ain't it? n/t

[Sparkly]

12. "You are the ones who will stop them" because...

"We have no clue how to do anything remotely resembling diplomacy or any sort of strategy involving deep thought or effort, all we understand is a 'military solution'... Which frankly ain't working so well... So, much more will be asked of you until it works..."

[cliss]

36. Such a good point.

Notice how once again, Einstein shifts the responsibility to someone else. BeetleBrain never had to take responsibility in his entire life.

I see nothing's changed.

[daleo]

15. That settles that

Another war on the way.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

19. yep

"seeking weapons" is the operative term. the dead giveaway.

[GOPBasher]

17. "But we're not going to give you any money, because

I'm giving billionaires huge tax cuts."

[HockeyMom]

20. Much More?

Like, after you tour of duty in Iraq is over, you will be sent to IRAN?

[driver8]

24. New troop rotation schedule...

Six months in Iraq, Six Months in Iran, Six months in United States, Six months in Afghanistan...repeat as necessary.

[ClintonTyree]

73. They'd never be allowed six months back in the States.......

that would be FAR too long. The Troops would come to their senses in that amount of time. Some would visit Canada, permanently, some would just go AWOL, more would apply for hardship discharges. After a few months back home they'd have no taste for Bush's war.
I believe they'd be allowed no more than a few weeks leave Stateside, else wise they'd never return to duty.

[NYC]

30. Some soldiers on the television news this evening

were being shipped out for 18 months.

[jmcgowanjm]

56. Do not go. Do not go.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-18-bush-cover_x.htm

I saw Queer Eye for the Straight Guy last night.

Gays rahrahing this soldier (and his wife)
about to leave for 18 months.

Surreal

[flordehinojos]

25. Bush speeches are beginning to sound a lot like the Fidel Castro speeches

when he asked the cuban people to SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE, SACRIFICE to defeat the monster to the north (THE USA)..and the people in Cuba went hungry, hungry, hungry, and he asked for more sacrifice, more sacrifice, more sacrifice in the name of the motherland. NOW, BUSH IS DOING THE SAME OL' SAME OL' SAME OL. What more is he going to ask of the soldiers. They are already giving their limb and lives. (AND IF HE IS ASKING THAT OF THEM... WHAT CAN WE EXPECT THAT HE WILL BE ASKING OF US? ... more like TELLLING US what he expects of us)!

[jmcgowanjm]

58. You dare to compare President Castro Ruz to bush 43!?

Fidel exposes Bush’s lies and slander to justify the measures against Cuban Americans and their families on the island

Dear fellow Cubans;

Distinguished guests:

On this 51st anniversary of the attack on the Moncada
Garrison on July 26, 1953 I shall devote my words to a
sinister character who is threatening, insulting and
slandering us. This is not a whim or an agreeable option; it is
a necessity and a duty.

...Given the fact that it was demonstrated that the US
President had launched an extremely grave accusation
based on a sentence found in a paper written by an
American student, who himself refuted the deliberate way
Bush misconstrued it, It is hard to imagine a more
bizarre response than that given by a White
House spokesperson when told about this
refutation.

 According to the news agency report, the spokesperson
simply, “¼defended the inclusion arguing
that it expressed an essential truth about Cuba”, in other
words, for the White House “the essential truth about Cuba”
is anything that the president conjures up in his mind whether
it has anything to do with reality or not.

http://granmai.cubaweb.com/documento/italiano04/011.html

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. "much more will be asked of you in the months and years ahead."

Now watch this drive!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

28. exactly

nt

[MichiganVote]

27. Blow it out your ass Bush

[VegasWolf]

29. You've lost your lives, your arms and legs, but still I say, there is more

that you can do for your country. Not go get em.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

31. "In other words, since I'm not going to run for office again

people don't have to view me as a threat..."

Wrong again, chimpo - you are the largest threat to humanity in the world

[Mari333]

33. what an asshole.

These guys are already overextended. Having to stay there over a year, almost 2 years, being sent back and all for a lie.
Bush can go to Hell.

[Just Me]

35. Damn RIGHT!!! He'll spend ALL BLOOD & TREASURE,...UNTIL,...

,...THE PEOPLE SAY NO, NO, NO!!!!

Until then,...watch him spend, spend, spend,...and spend more blood and treasure.

After all,...we are merely "capital",...to spend, spend, spend away.

[DemBones DemBones]

37. "Much more," like Iran, Syria, Cuba, North Korea?

The world is out of control.

[leesa]

39. What an unspeakably evil man.

[GetTheRightVote]

40. It is time to attack * where it can happen, here at home, we need to

stop him and soon before the idiot starts up another stupid war without cause, to the rallies everyone.

:kick:

[Rex]

41. Bush told the serfs, "You are my capital and I will liquidate you soon."

The "liberal" media went ecstatic at the mention of future death and said Bush should be President 4 life!!!

[CHIMO]

42. And What

Does the military have to say?

[Torque67]

50. Hoooyah!

When Bush stated that the military was going to be the ones to do it, the servicemen cheered.

This war sucks, no doubt about it, but buddies I have that are fighting in Iraq are doing well, missing kids, but fighting the good fight. They are also getting most of the stuff they are needing. There have only been requests for small items lately, little stuff like new unscratched sunglasses and zip ties. Mostly it's been requests for comfort items like movies, regional munchies they miss (I've been sending moon pies since it got cold enough for them not to melt right away and good bbq sauce, no more requests for M249 hingepins or the best price on trauma plates)

You have to keep in mind that if a soldier or a marine isn't bitching, it's because he's dead. But of the dozen or so guys I know over in Iraq right now, none of them are feeling sorry for themselves. But they are bitching anyway, because thats just part of what they do. Two of them re-upped just to go to this one, as they hated the idea of the units they had recently left getting to go without them.

So, to answer the question, most of them probably said Hooyah! Despite it being a bad war, you're watching a second version of "The Greatest Generation" come of age. Send those moon pies, or old bay seasoned peanuts, or jalapeno porkskins, deer jerky or whatever.

[w4rma]

52. Here is what the soldiers think of the "armor" they are getting.

http://anon.salon.speedera.net/anon.salon/media/2004/12/gps1_q300.mov
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2829831

[Bridget Burke]

53. "fighting the good fight" -- BULLSHIT!

This is not the Greatest Generation. Ever heard of Hitler? Pearl Harbor? That was different war. Iraq did not attack us & was no threat. Beginning an aggressive war is precisely the charge the Big Nazis faced at Nuremberg.

Iraq is another Vietnam. FUBAR.

By the way, don't you feel bad that all your good buddies get to have all the fun? Why aren't you in Iraq?

[Torque67]

63. I've already put my years in.

And have now moved onto other stuff. I'm too old to re-up.

I dont recall seeing anything about the troops starting the war. I also remember saying that it was a bad war. I suppose you missed that while leaping on a opportunity to rant about hitler. But I was just posting to say that the good supplies are getting to at least the folks I know, and that not every soldier there is miserable. Sure, they'd rather be home, but they are doing better than most of the reports you are seeing. Either that, or I have overly cheerful friends.

[fooj]

43. OMG! God Bless Our Troops!

With this madman...they need all the prayers they can get!

[Supersedeas]

65. follow your conscientious--otherwise King George will abuse you.

[American Tragedy]

44. Some folks inherit star spangled eyes...

Oh, they'll send you down to war.
And when you ask them, how much should we give?
They only answer more, more, more!

It ain’t me
It ain’t me
I ain’t no military son.

It ain’t me
It ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate one.

It ain’t me
It ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate son, no, no, no.

[ashmanonar]

48. funny...

how all the old protest songs STILL MAKE SENSE!

[natrat]

57. i've been listening to this dead tune a bit lately- "My Brother Esau"-

My brother Esau killed the hunter, back in 1969,
Before the killing was done his inheritance was mine.
When at first my brother walked away,
Before a weary band,
Esau gave his sleeplessness for a piece of moral land.

Our father favored Esau, he was eager to obey,
All the wild commandments, the old man shot his way.
But all this ended when, my brother failed at war,
He staggered home and found me in the door.

Esau he's on roller-skates today,
And he make a statement to someone in L.A.
Sometimes at night I dream, he's still that hairy man,
Shadow boxing the apocalypse, wandering the land.

Esau holds the blessing, brother Esau holds the curse,
I was thinking that the blame was mine,
But suspected something worse.
The more my brother looks like me, the more I understand,
The silent war it bloodied both our hands.
None of us can win.
Outside that dream, still that hairy man.
Well sometimes at night I think I understand.
Shadowboxing the apocalypse, wandering the land.

[kineneb]

81. Even older song says it all

From a late 18th-early 19th century anti-war song:

They said he was a hero and not to grieve
Over two wooden pegs and empty sleeves,
They carried him home and set him down
With a military pension and a medal from the crown.
You haven't an arm, you haven't a leg,
The enemy nearly slew you,
You'll have to go out on the streets to beg,
Oh poor Johnny what have they done to you.

(from "Fighting for Strangers"
Traditional, adapted by Steeleye Span)

I use this as my e-mail sig message.
And BushCo wants "more?"

[Barkley]

45. We attacked a country that posed no threat to us.

The invasion of Iraq did not disarm Saddam; the UN inspection regimes of he 1990s did.

Seventy percent of Iraqis see Americans as “occupiers” rather than “liberators” and more than half (57%) say that U.S. troops should leave Iraq immediately.

Iraqi unemployment reaches 70%.” Al Jazeera News http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A66151CB-2105-418B-BFAA-73211A631611.htm, August 1, 2004; “Iraqis Say: ‘US Out Now!’ Antiwar.com, http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=2440, April 30, 2004


We killed civilian people on a unprecedented scale:
The U.S.-led invasion and subsequent occupation cost Iraq 100,000 lives, more than 30 times the number of Americans that died on September 11, 2001.

“Iraq death toll soared.” BBC News, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3962969.stm

Already over after two years 5000 troops have gone AWOL, some
have sued to challenge the stop loss, others have declared
C.O. status and recruiting becomes more difficult by the day.


10,000 casualties, 1300+ dead

NO more human sacrifices!

Bring the Troops Home NOW!

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

49. JENNA AND BARBARA, DADDY'S CALLING!

Gee, let's see, almost 1400 men and women have made the ultimate sacrifice; 10,700+ more have given up limbs and other body parts too gruesome to enumerate; some have mental issues that can never be cured; and yet the chickenshit/hawk administration is now going to ask them to give up more? Well, gee, Moron, since so many have given so much to your manufactured crisis perhaps now would be a good time for YOU to make a sacrifice - say - your two daughters. They are the right age - the same age as many who will never return from Iraq. Now, when YOU start making that sacrifice I am sure others in America will feel obliged to join right in. What do you think?

[goddess40]

55. I guess dying for a lie isn't enough anymore

bush is a fascist without a drop of compassion!

Eidt: I guess losing limbs, psycological damage and other life long medical problems isn't enough either. On top of which the gov't won't cover your medical bills and is more then willing to let you live under a bridge.

[natrat]

59. ok devils advocate-

iran is a militant islamic state that could heat up in a religious/military fervor and annihilate millions if given the chance. The problem is bushco and the military it has reshaped seems to be utterly incompetent and the risk reward of a campaign into Iran w/ them at the helm is a loosing proposition. flame away

[agincourt]

82. The ones that would get us,

are from failed states, where there is no real government. Just a bunch of tribes with no future. Where you have some type of gov't, they can be deterred with regular military, preemption just digs a deeper hole.

[Strawman]

60. "Now watch this drive..." n/t

[Colorado Blue]

61. Wimen! Y'all need to git to work and produce more a' that

Human Capital!!! So we can spend it in The War Against Whatever The Hell It Is We Feel Like Havin' A War Against!

Old Folks and Poor Folks And Disabled Folks! Cough Up Yer Social Security Money so's we can PAY for this shit. I mean endeavor.

Rich Folks! Hooray! And Hooyah! I have LET THE CONTRACTS and you will be EVEN RICHER! Hooray! AND, we will be making the TAX CUTS PERMANENT, and, yer company won't have to pay that Social Security Tax even more OR pay for health care neither. Let the Human Capital take care of THEIR OWN DAMN SELVES, like we do.

AIRLINES! Not to worry, we'll be giving youse a bigass subsidy, as usual, plus you can fly ghost to the War Zone, like Continental in Vietnam. We don't know where the War Zone is gonna be exactly, but don't worry we will FIND one.

PROTESTERS: Go ahead and bitch. Make too much noise and I'll declare Martial Law. And yew will NOT be treated under the damn Geneva Convention. That goes for Dimmycrat Senators too, who make too much MI'CHIEF.

HOOYAH!!!

[bejammin075]

62. I wonder if an "unprecedented scale" of killing would

be on the order of 100,000+ Iraqi civilians.

[ZanZaBar]

64. Well then,

How long does it take depleted uranium to completely disable and incapacitate a human being?

[RedCloud]

66. Just let 'em go to Harvard

Let 'em go eight months early. Call it the "Like National Guard W, like real fighting troops" clause.

[genieroze]

68. Much More Will Be Asked of You?

We want your first born to fight our perpetual wars. lol

[ginnyinWI]

70. the thing that finally stopped Nixon in Vietnam

was that Congress refused to allot any more money to fund the war. This was due in part at least, to the public outcry against the war.

Starve that Bush! Get Congress to stop funding his insanity.

[robbedvoter]

74. Congress/ We still have a congress? How quaint!

I see Biden now....

[Megahurtz]

71. Oh no!!!

Here comes World War III.:scared:

[AuntiBush]

78. How much more can one ask!?!

Jeez! I mean, they're stretched to the limits now! Lord, we need help bad! Our poor military!!!!

:( :( ;(

[Magmadona]

80. Who cheered?

The injured cheered? If so I hope they can wheel their way to Iraq.

[lovuian]

83. In other words You signed up to fight so thats what your going to

Do!!!

Cause bush has plenty of enemies out there to fight!!!

WHOAH!!!

[leesa]

84. I'm just reading M.Moore's "Will They Ever Trust Us Again", the

collection of letters from troops and their families, and it breaks my heart to think of them having to hear this from this traitorous, greedy man.