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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 04:57 AM
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Blair and his ministers accused of walking away from war wounded
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1446882,00.html


Iraq


January 19, 2005

Blair and his ministers accused of walking away from war wounded

By Michael Evans and David Lister


TONY BLAIR and other senior Cabinet ministers have been criticised by opposition parties for failing to visit soldiers wounded in Iraq and repatriated for medical treatment.
The Times revealed yesterday that 790 British service personnel had been injured in “hostile action, accidents or other incidents” in Iraq since the war started in March 2003.



The Liberal Democrats demanded an urgent statement to be made by Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary. But Michael Martin, the Speaker, turned them down.

Downing Street confirmed that the Prime Minister had not been to see any of the wounded undergoing operations and other treatment at the Royal Centre of Defence Medicine at Selly Oak, in Birmingham, where injured soldiers are taken.




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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:13 AM
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1. At this point, I'd be fine with Michael Howard as Prime Minister
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 05:14 AM by bluestateguy
The British Tories have proven themselves to be much more responsible than our American Republican Party, and much more honest than Tony Blair's "New Labour". I liked Old Labour just fine, but if we can't have that back, I'll take the Tories.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:17 AM
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3. That is a bad call, mate
Howard is worse than blair.... and labour is going to win the next poll.
Your comment is like prefering bush because clinton was a sex fiend.
THe better comment is simply to replace clinton with gore, not abandon
the objectives of a labour government.

In this regard, I would hope you would support Mr. Brown, or Mr. Straw
as the next PM, and leave the crazy tax cutting psycho party out of it.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:42 AM
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6. He's right
The situation is no way analogous to Clinton. IF the choise would be only between Howard and Blair, of course nobody in their right mind and with a hint of back-bone should choose a FUCKING WAR CRIMINAL AND A MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gladly those are not the only alternatives, there are LD, Greens and socialists. Probably too much to hope, but Labour lead by Cook - who is no white pidgeon, but has proven his core values and good judgement - would be best thing for UK.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:13 AM
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7. Yes, but reality knocks
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 06:14 AM by sweetheart
Labour will win the next poll. The flavours on offer are "brown",
"straw", "brown", "millburn", and "brown". Kennedy might be who wins
this liberal democratic district, though i myself would probably support
the greens just cuz keneedy sold out the cannabis constituency...
leaving only the scottish socialists and the greens with any spinal
column at all for truth.

So, we don't disagree about bliar, and the libdems will pick up a few
seats in this next poll as the torys continue on their tax cutting
path towards irrelevancy. Just he's got a firm grip on power, and
labour is not going anywhere. The economy is doing ok, and pretty much
british quality of life is really quite awesome... so blair presides
over a great prosperity at home... with the war kept distant.

Brown is the hope. He's been around africa meeting the poor and i hope
he becomes the next foreign office minister and that blair and he both
come out with a date for the transition of power inside labour to the
brown camp. A formal announcement will allow us all to see blair's
backside and feel better about labour... with a date for when we'll
feel better.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:45 AM
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8. Reality is what you make it to be
The best probabilistic outcome would be hung parliament and libdems getting RP for all of UK, so the tory troll could never again be used to scare little children and New Labour for ever unable to sell out the country, because they would neither ever again have absolute majority, but dependent on libdems, greens, socialists or whatever parties would have support.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:23 AM
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4. New Labour is far better than the Tories
and it's because of Blair that Labour is successful now and will continue to be at least in the near future.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:14 AM
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2. Blair walks away from everyone but himself
He's walked away from his own party's best interests in to the land of
the bush criminal junta... what do you expect... he's become another
robot of the fear, hate cult, and he's already lost in his delusions.

Funny how those in power are sooo lost in the woods... it just seems
to prove that such power corrupts totally.... as there seems once that
blair was a civil and decent man... but it is gone now, with the vampire
bite on his neck.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:36 AM
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5. Hope that PR catches up with the guy
It would be nice to see people get angry at a guy like that and remove him. This is a real slap in the face for soldiers serving in the war.
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