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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:38 PM
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Cheney Says Pre-emption Needed to Thwart Terrorism

Vice president Dick Cheney addresses Air Force Association:

"We need a strategy that puts us on the offense, that lets us go after those who pose a threat to the United States or our friends and allies -- a strategy that allows us to destroy the terrorists before they can launch attacks against us...

The Bush doctrine makes clear that those states that support terrorists, or provide sanctuary for terrorists, are just as guilty as the terrorists themselves of the acts they commit. So in addition to going after the terrorists, we are also taking on states that sponsor terror...

Some people -- both in this nation and abroad -- have questions about that strategy. They suggest that somehow it's wrong for us to strike before an enemy strikes us. But as President Bush said, "If the threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations, would come too late." ..

Most of Iraq today is relatively stable and quiet... And that is why we can settle for nothing less than total victory..."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0309/S00222.htm



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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:43 PM
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1. God, it's scary. Feels like we're living either
in 1928 Germany, or on another planet.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:47 PM
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2. Does this mean that Saudi Arabia is next???
Then the BFEE, since they "provide sanctuary" for the saudis.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:52 PM
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3. you know,
I don't think the communication between him and the others
in the admin is very good or he would PUT A SOCK IN IT!
Right now, they don't need to have people think they are as
crazy as they are. All the backpedaling wouldn't be necessary
if they felt secure.

Cheney is a loose canon.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:15 AM
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12. rift in the administration
depending who has Bush's tin ear of course. And sickly Cheney, afraid to
become a two-for-one cleanup deal rarely gets to indoctrinate his boy anymore. That shows up especially when even a whiff of "dump Cheney" or accountability ends up at his desk. It's not hard to prove. All the times Cheney speaks up it is to shore up his influence or to crow. Then he is on his own very notably, unlike most other Veeps I can remember. But he does not speak like an advisor as much as a policy maker no one quite acknowledges.

Great dilemma because they can't dset up this humungous liability for a total fall. they will probably get him on somerelatively venal charge and he will resign because of "poor health". The trouble is he is insane with power and will not go unless his policies, his wretched life meaning is firmly triumphant.

Clear as a sneer.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:52 PM
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4. We're offensive, all right.
Anyone feel like the real Cheney goal is to manufacture terrorists, or grow them like a cash crop?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:20 PM
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5. who do you have your oily eye on, Dick?
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:21 PM
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6. Cheney is a fat, pale, scaly lizard, ...he makes my skin crawl,
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 11:23 PM by Flying_Pig
but then, most vermin do. I do not believe, in the entire history of this country, that there has been a more dangerous, and fascist individual in our government. And to think, ...he's only a heartbeat away from running the whole train.....chills, it gives me big freakin' chills.... This bastard must be stopped, arrested, tried, and given a blindfold. On second thought, fuck the blindfold.
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:23 PM
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7. Preemption to deal with actual terrorists makes sense.
But that's not what Cheney means, as you all know. This administration has no desire to fight terrorists. If they did, they would have been talking about going into Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq. They wouldn't have covered up the Saudi 9-11 connection. They wouldn't have taken 8000 pages of the Iraqi weapon decoration out because it names Republican contributors that gave them WMD when they were fighting Iran. Those weapons, of course, have been destroyed either by Iraqis or by time, as chemical and biological weapons don't last forever.

They want to preemptively steal oil. They want to preemptively make power grabs per the PNAC playbook.

How dare this motherfucker claim that Iraq is relatively quiet now? We've preemptively created a fucking mess over there. And preemptively gave Halliburton and Bechtal billions (with a b) of dollars. And preemptively created more terrorists. The bastards.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:28 PM
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8. Cheney's cheeks are showing
"We need a strategy that puts us on the offense, that lets us go after those who pose a threat to the United States or our friends and allies -- a strategy that allows us to destroy the terrorists before they can launch attacks against us...

So, dickhead, Africa is not a big enough deal to count them as allies or friends?

The Bush doctrine makes clear that those states that support terrorists, or provide sanctuary for terrorists, are just as guilty as the terrorists themselves of the acts they commit. So in addition to going after the terrorists, we are also taking on states that sponsor terror...

The BUSH doctrine... :puke: ...sounds too much like a psuedo-christian doctrine...but since the "chosen one" has a doctrine, it must be right </sarcasm>

Cheney is headed for the dumpster re: the 2004. Was thinking the other day that Rove has all these plans for the 2004, and dumping Cheney is one of them...then the Dick can return to grafting through Halliburton without having to suffer under any investigations. Yeah, sure..right. I hope that after * is dis-selected, the truth about these thugs comes to the fore and they are made accountable.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:33 PM
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9. PNAC is alive and well
and going forward.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:39 PM
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10. Cheney has had a lot to say lately
Most of what he has had to say are lies.
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:13 AM
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11. Does that means the Air Force will bomb...
Ronald Raygun's house and Donald Rumsfeld on the podium for supporting that terrorist Saddam Hussein in the first place?
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:16 AM
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13. Who knows what evil terrorists that Bushco will support in the future?
They already support the sheiks in Saudi Arabia, that Pakistani (Bush calls 'em "Pakis") dictator, the terrorist Ariel Sharon and the dictator "President" of Malaysia.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:46 AM
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14. Sure, Dick....
attacking more countries means more no-bid contracts for your buddies at Halliburton and Bechtel.

Don't think we can't see right through you.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:32 AM
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15. And that is exactly why ...
we need to get these thugs out of office, and into prison.

Cheers
Drifter
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:45 AM
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16. Cheney sure is brave
When other people are doing the fighting and dying.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:58 AM
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17. Outright lies...
...and no one seems to give a shit anymore.

- What they DON'T want to talk about is attacking countries that pose NO threat...and that threat being fabricated by the Bushies in accordance with their PNAC plan.

- Fucking nazis.
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