Jerry Falwell has suffered a massive heart attack

[NNN0LHI]

No link yet. Just reported on MSNBC and CNN. His son is supposed to make a statement on his condition soon.

[leftofthedial]

1. Aaaaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaaaaah

[TahitiNut]

7. (grin) "Uhhhhp Uhhhhp Annnnd Aaaaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaaaaah"

Stuporman

[DS1]

24. TahitiNut wants a Big Mac and an Apple Pie!

[TahitiNut]

63. "Fries with that?"

:toast: :hide: :rofl:

[Griffy]

281. PERHAP he will end up in a PVS and they will pull the plug!!

Oh the irony... but as much as I try to not be happy about this.. he is a hatemonger and a source of misinformation and strife!

"the world is a better place without Fallwell in power... " lol

[johnfunk]

57. At last! G*d has smited that lying, scamming, un-Christian, powergrubber!

Any media appearance by that sleazy Televangetubbie was more than enough to make the Baby Jesus cry.


In the name of Jaaaaayzus, I cast thou out, unclean homosexual Satan...


Holy sheep shit! It's LIBERACE!

[In Truth We Trust]

94. "Give Jerry water, give Jerry water"

[leftofthedial]

163. Spunge him, spunge him

[0007]

174. His tongue is parched!

More?

[Norquist Nemesis]

250. Hallelujah!!!!

Thank you! I needed that laugh! *still rofl*

[leftofthedial]

255. glad to be of service

[katty]

261. Jerry is Rapture Ready-PLEASE take him, Lord!

[dave123williams]

2. Somehow, I think he'll find a way to blame it on my liberalism.

[mindem]

3. "And God Spoke" N/T

[TahitiNut]

23. "... God's will be done, on earth as it is ..."

Amen

[Renew Deal]

4. Is he still alive?

[NNN0LHI]

13. I am waiting for an update and a link n/t

[Radio_Lady]

154. Only mentions "in the hospital" -- no real links, no diagnosis

Search at:

http://www.news.google.com

Keywords: Jerry Falwell

[umtalal]

22. Is he dead yet? n/t

[Boomer]

5. I'm trying to think of something sympathetic to say....

[fob]

14. Here's what I can come up with, I hope he has a well-defined Living

Will.

[Jimbo S]

267. Nah, let him rot on a bed for fifteen years

Then after 15 years of being a veggie, maybe, just maybe, there will be a miracle. Nah.

[Dulcinea]

178. I can't wish death on anyone...

but if Falwell croaks, I'll shed no tears whatsoever.

[lyonn]

197. why?

Mustn't lie.

[Walt Starr]

230. I got nothing

:shrug:

[TalkingDog]

264. Born Again Pagan Democrat....

Does that make you a BAPDist?

[Walt Starr]

273. LOL!

Oh THAT would sit well with Fartwell!

[VegasWolf]

231. Jerry Falwell is a charlatan who uses the hatred of some groups

of people against other groups of people in order to turn
a tidy profit for himself. I have nothing good to say for him and
I believe that the world will be better off without him.

[DearAbby]

279. Momma said if you cant say anything nice....dont say anything at all

...........

[kedrys]

6. Conclusive proof of the existence of a god...?

Sorry, did I say that out loud? My bad. :P

[underthedome]

8. Jesus giveth, Jesus taketh away

Hate mongering bastard.

[jus_the_facts]

9. I'm shocked....

:nopity:

[BurtWorm]

10. Maybe there is a god.

In which case, Falwell ought to prepare himself for a shock when they go over his book of accounts.

[nolabels]

40. He probably would try to take it with him

:hi:

[Jimbo S]

268. Which books?

The actual ones he keeps or the ones he shows to the auditors?

[Hand]

11. Must... stifle... instinctive... response...

(Whew, that wuz a tough one.)

(Ahem) My very best wishes to the Reverend Falwell for a quick recovery and good health.

That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
:evilgrin:

[Boomer]

15. Careful

You might have ruptured an internal organ that you need.

[Hand]

21. Yep, my spleen took quite a beating there. nt

[Spazito]

30. LOL

My momma taught me not to speak ill of the ill so I have put duct tape over the keys that spell out what I might be tempted to type.

[bunkerbuster1]

111. I agree with this post.

Feel better, Rev!

[CC]

12. In critical condition

at local Lynchburg hospital.

[Hand]

31. Off-topic question...

Are all those ferrets yours? Must be quite a ruckus if they are! Sweet looking little guys/gals. :loveya:

[Chovexani]

48. Cutest sig on DU!

I especially like Crackers. :D

[CC]

139. Thank you and

Crackers is a Red Lory. Both birds are rescues, Crackers only like men and Harley only likes women and the elderly. Both do talk though the Grey has the conversationalist.

[CC]

130. yep they are

and about the easiest ones care wise, on par with the cats. The dogs are the most but worth it. Ferrets do not allow moping etc, they work hard to make you laugh.

[LiberalFighter]

I wonder what the policy is at the Lynchburg hospital

[CC]

121. Not sure but

would think such a pious man would have a DNR and want to meet his maker sooner rather than later. :sarcasm:

[bertha katzenengel]

95. CC -- your sig line ROCKS!

Wow! I might have to make something similar. Will you get mad at me if I kinda copy your design?

[CC]

118. Thank you and of course not.

Let me know when you do so I can see it. WE call ours the zoo crew.

[bertha katzenengel]

137. "Zoo Crew." Dig it. We don't have a name for our menagerie, but our

home is the Waldorf Cat Haven. AKA Harmony House. One hopes it'll be more harmonious once everyone is microchipped and the cat door is installed.

Thanks!

[sniffa]

16. how many peopLe wiLL it take to carry his casket?

[notadmblnd]

146. I guess that would depend on weather he can take it all with him

Never seen anyone get out of this world with theirs before.. Maybe jerry will be the first?

[OneBlueSky]

17. much as I despise his dogma, I wish him a speedy recovery . . .

because it's the Christian thing to do . . .

[Boomer]

Awww, heck.

You're right, of course.

<pout>

[annabanana]

yeah... damn....me too. n/t

[jonnyblitz]

84. please. nt

[TahitiNut]

125. May all of his doctors and nurses be GLBT.

... and he KNOW it. :evilgrin:

[iamjoy]

210. Amen And Amen

We should not wish harm to this man.
Those DUers who are religious should pray for his speedy recovery, both physical and spiritual.


:dilemma:

[peterh]

270. And will they have the option….

Of denying their services per personal beliefs….that sickos aren’t worth saving…

Oh wait…that’s the fundie creed….

Damn it’s tough being a secular humanist at times….:spank:

[GHOSTDANCER]

136. I hope he goes straight to heaven soon. Is that Christian too? n/t

[Roland99]

150. Where's that faith healer guy?

[Mari333]

18. No tears here. n/t

[htuttle]

19. Quick! Shove a feeding tube into him!

[TahitiNut]

34. Are you saying he should be intubhated?

:evilgrin:

[Roland99]

129. That was my first thought

[Pathwalker]

20. Quick - hook him up to a feeding tube!

He cannot be ALLOWED to die - his wishes don't matter. Tell the fundies and let them run from Terri's side to his NOW!

[umtalal]

29. and move the Florida protestors to his place.

[Toots]

25. Anyway we can get a tube shoved into him?

:shrug:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

79. I notice you did not specify the orifice.

:evilgrin:

[Arugula Latte]

185. Hey, any port in a storm.

So to speak.

[Arugula Latte]

189. What did you do, Jerry?

Why does god hate you so much? :shrug:

[lyonn]

205. too funny oregonian!

n/t

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

26. As one who lost her father to a massive heart attack

I offer my best wishes to the family of this reprehensible man.

[Skidmore]

33. Amen.

[comsymp]

56. Nicely said

Best wishes to the family, as well.

[Connie_Corleone]

27. I hope he has a living will! n/t

[NNN0LHI]

32. See the post right below this one n/t

[NNN0LHI]

28. Side-note: Falwell likened his bout with pneumonia to Schiavo's condition

http://mediamatters.org/items/200503280007

In his Easter Sunday televised sermon and in a CNN appearance that same day, the Rev. Jerry Falwell compared his recent bout with viral pneumonia to Terri Schiavo's condition.

From Falwell's March 27 televised Easter sermon, broadcast from his Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia:

FALWELL: {T}erri, who is not on life support, has never been on life support, she had a feeding tube in. A month ago, I had a feeding tube and I was on a ventilator, but I was not in a persistent vegetative state -- many people go through that. And Terri, Terri was not -- is not unconscious. She is aware, she's limited, she's unable to say and do as once she did, but she has a mother and father who love her.

From the March 27 broadcast of CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer:

FALWELL: She has never been on life support. A month ago, I was on a ventilator to breathe, and I had a feeding tube down my nose, just like she. And thank the Lord, I'm out of it, and I preached two times this morning in my Easter services.

But I've already given my living will. Don't you dare pull the plug on me. I want to wake up in 14 years and say, "What day is it? What time is it?"

more

[Hand]

38. Wow...

This may restore my faith in instant karma...
:spank:

[lyonn]

234. Karma

Makes you think doesn't it?

[Connie_Corleone]

45. Well, if he wants to live like that...

"SO IT IS WRITTEN, SO IT SHALL BE DONE!!"

[daleo]

51. Wow, he said that?

If he really wants it, I guess his followers would pay for 14 years with a feeding tube, unable to communicate. His television interviews would make more sense, I suppose.

[UpInArms]

108. he also said:

RICHMOND, Va. Sept. 18, 2001

(CBS) The Rev. Jerry Falwell apologized Monday for saying God had allowed terrorists to attack America because of the work of civil liberties groups, abortion rights supporters and feminists.

Falwell also said the terrorist attacks on the U.S. were "probably what we deserve."

The conservative minister made his remarks on "The 700 Club," the popular religious show on the Christian Broadcasting Network hosted by Pat Robertson. Robertson immediately said, "Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror."

[Stand and Fight]

169. Link. Please provide a link. n/t

[UpInArms]

240. Falwell: I Blew It

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/18/archive/main311660.shtml

(CBS) The Rev. Jerry Falwell apologized Monday for saying God had allowed terrorists to attack America because of the work of civil liberties groups, abortion rights supporters and feminists.

Falwell also said the terrorist attacks on the U.S. were "probably what we deserve."

The conservative minister made his remarks on "The 700 Club," the popular religious show on the Christian Broadcasting Network hosted by Pat Robertson. Robertson immediately said, "Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror."

<snip>

Falwell, a Baptist minister and chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, also expressed a belief shared by other evangelicals that divine protection is withdrawn from nations that violate God's will.

...more...

[Stand and Fight]

244. Thanks!

I want to send this to some of the freeptards I work with!

[johnfunk]

72. Bwahahaha -- next, he'll be comparing himself to Pope John Pius Paul XIII

n/t

[TahitiNut]

73. "... I was not in a persistent vegetative state ..."

As always, good people can disagree.

[blueheeler]

78. what would he think of this?.....

"But I've already given my living will. Don't you dare pull the plug on me. I want to wake up in 14 years and say, "What day is it? What time is it?"

It is Thursday, It is time to watch President Whoopie Goldberg 's press conference:evilgrin:

[Chovexani]

103. I'd vote for Whoopi any day of the week

For real.

[bleedingheart]

107. I bet they used PVC piping for that feeding tube

bwahahahahah

[Old and In the Way]

213. "Don't you dare pull the plug on me."

You can run, Jerry, but you can't hide. Very curious statement from a "man of God". Sounds like he desperately wants to delay his day of reckoning......OTOH, maybe God will grant Jerry his wish....

[denverbill]

35. This shouldn't be a problem. He should just send himself $100 and pray.

Maybe touch the TV screen image of himself.

[rooboy]

36. At least now I have an insight into how the original Christians felt...

when word came through that something bad had happened to Judas Iscariot.

[Mad_Dem_X]

Oh, that's a shame...

:evilgrin:

Brings to mind a song from The Color Purple: "Maybe God is tryin' to tell you somethin'..."

[CPschem]

37. No sympathy from me.

Hateful bastard.

[Kelvin Mace]

39. My condolences to his family

but I must say that God's aim is getting bad these days.

David Allen
www.blackboxvoting.com
www.thoughtcrimes.org

[Massachusetts]

41. Praise Gee Sus

:evilgrin: O8) O8) :evilfrown:

[catmandu57]

42. Well, not being a christian

I can say I hope this evil evil hateful piece of shit dies a mean long painful death, and I hope the door hits him in the ass on his way out. Fuck him, fuck his followers, the world is a much better place without people like hime, fucking hypocrite.

[MaineDem]

43. Is there a link yet?

So many of these responses are in very poor taste.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

49. I really hope you're not surprised about that.

[MsLeopard]

282. I hope he gets....

....exactly what he deserves.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

44. Cheney, DeLay...now, Falwell. I'm inclined to change my mind about god.

Nah...

JB

[cal04]

46. Rev. Jerry Falwell Back In Hospital

The Rev. Jerry Falwell was hospitalized Tuesday for an undisclosed medical problem, his ministry said.

"I can tell you he is in the hospital and he is resting, and that is all I know," said Jessica Tucker of Jerry Falwell's Ministries.
http://www.thewgalchannel.com/news/4326568/detail.html?rss=lan&psp=nationalnews

[leftofthedial]

47. Quick! Call Benny Hinn!

[lavenderdiva]

50. didn't know he had a heart.... n/t

[leftofthedial]

62. must mean a massive attack

because the heart is tiny at best

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Oh. Dear. I. Am. So. Concerned.

No. Really. I. Am. :sarcasm:



I'll show the same concern the freepers did when Clinton had his heart trouble.

[Catchawave]

53. Press Conference at Noon (MSNBC reports)

Falwell's son will brief the press.

[Radio_Lady]

156. 12 Noon EASTERN-CENTRAL-MOUNTAIN-PACIFIC?????

What time zone are you in?

[lupita]

54. I hope he has a living will. n/t

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

55. Guess he won't be praying for the death of any liberal judges today

[kaitykaity]

58. I'm thinking Satan and soccer balls.

Can't wait to hear Malloy's take on this.

:evilgrin:

[Hoping4Change]

59. Calling Benny Hinn. Calling Benny Hinn. Calling Benny Hinn.

Go smack brother Falwell on the head Benny and make him all better.

[davidinalameda]

60. let me say what everyone else is thinking

Jerry Falwell has a heart?

I wish him a quick and speedy recovery--barring that I hope he has a quick and speedy death

[zanne]

61. He is a human being.

OK, he's not our favorite person, but even ogres have people who love them. My father died of a heart attack in the middle of the night, so I think I know how his family is going to feel. If Mr. Falwell recovers, then we can bash him.

[jonnyblitz]

75. no he isnt. nt

[denverbill]

76. Sorry, but I like him even less than I like Bush.

To me, the ultimate in un-Christian behavior is to solicit donations from people seeking salvation, and use the donations to become a multi-millionaire. He's taken the life savings of poor widows and desperate sick elderly people and stuck the money in his own pocket. He's no different from the medieval catholics who sold indulgences.

It's a sickening perversion of what Jesus taught. "it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven." I wonder when the last time Falwell preached THAT sermon was.

[Shadder]

85. No, he's not

My fatther and grabdfather also died of heart attacks, so what.

He's a fat lying money hungry thief that cares nothing about anything but stealing as much money from the poor slobs that eat up the shit that he spews. All he's ever done is use people. Calling this scum human is an insult.

[Q3JR4]

153. He may have been born on this earth to two

people as a live human baby, but since that day the only thing that has spewed from his mouth has been venomous and hate filled.

I don't want to wish him pain and death, but I am tempted to.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate the man. I just think that one reaps what one sows.

[Scairp]

283. So what?

Does he care that gays are human beings? Or for that matter, anyone who doesn't conform to his brand of fundamentalism? Sorry, that man has done harm in his life, all in the name of Christ, and deserves no sympathy now that he may be on his way out.

[Rockholm]

64. Get the feeding tube ready......

Shove it up his hypocrital ass.

[short bus president]

65. PARTY IN LYNCHBURG!!!

:party:

[TahitiNut]

81. Jack Daniels for the house, bartender.

:party: :beer: :toast:

[msanthrope]

206. No, Campari and Soda---in tribute to Larry Flynt's parody...n/t

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

66. It seems all that praying for the death of others

has finally caught up with the unhonorable reverend.

you get what you give x3. Karma has a way of catching up with you.

is Robertson next on the karma mac truck hit-list?

:nopity:

[LibertyLover]

67. Falwell

Darn, I really hate it when my mother's lessons in good manners are in direct conflict to my initial reaction. Isn't that one of the definitions of stress? So, what I will say is that while I do not agree with Rev. Falwell theologically, I hope that the highest good for all concerned is achieved and my sympathy to his family.

(OK mom - are you happy now?)

[meganmonkey]

91. Very well put.

Your mom should be proud :)

[goodboy]

68. I guess god has had enough! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Shadder]

69. So what?

Let the sob die, world would be a much better place.

[Zynx]

70. That's the price you pay for gluttony.

Did he forget gluttony is a sin?

[knitter4democracy]

200. Yeah, but he's not Catholic . . .

So he probably doesn't agree with that list. :eyes:

That said, I hope he gets good medical care (so his followers don't target the doctors and the team taking care of him) and that he finally opens up his heart to real joy and peace. Maybe Jesus will really get through this time.

[loro mi dicevano]

71. Just "reported" on FOX.

It's not even noon, and today has been bizarre.

Very odd.

[AFSCME girl]

186. I was thinking the same thing n/t

:crazy:

[warrens]

74. Biting tongue REALLY HARD

But, ya know, if he went into a coma and his family wanted to take him off life support, it would be kinda fun to call them murderers.

[Az]

77. I will not rejoice in his passing

I would rather those I oppose were able to be made to see reason. Their suffering in no way improves things. I remember when Carl Sagan passed and many on the right ridiculed him. It was disgusting quite frankly. I will have nothing to do with that behaviour.

[Renew Deal]

I agree with you on some level.

But I also think that this disgraceful piece of shit should burn in hell. He's a cruel man. He thinks we deserved 9/11 in NY because of the gays. How can he stand in front of God or anyone else with the things he's said and done?

[Az]

122. Not much I can say to counter that

He definately is an individual that stretches my boundaries of tolerance.

[YvonneCa]

142. Nor will I...

...my human side has compassion...even for those I disagree with vehemently.:thumbsup:

[Zorra]

147. "I would rather those I oppose were able to be made to see reason."

Well said, Az, I feel that way also.

This makes me think about fundies that are in favor of the death penalty. If they really believe in an afterlife, and that people's "souls" can be "saved", why would they rather kill someone, instead of giving that person a chance to live, see the error of their ways, and give them a chance at "eternal salvation"?

But fundies would rather just kill, and this is one reason why RW CINO fundamentalism has nothing to do whatsoever with Christianity, other than erroneously co-opt the moniker "Christian".

It does not seem to me that anyone that really believes in the philosophy of Christ could ever support the death penalty.

Anyway, just a thought; I don't consider myself a "Christian", although I have a great respect for the genuine spirit of the philosophy.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

238. agreed

it does no good to make light of other's suffering, whomever they may be.
imo of course.

Az, you are going to have to stop posting all these cohernet and rational thoughts otherwise you are going to keep seeing me agree with you all the time! :silly:

keep it up sir

[Ilsa]

80. Has his wife unplugged him yet?

I wonder if, behind everyone's backs, she's trying to drain the batteries on the crash cart and short out the wiring on it. I wonder how long she'd give him before pulling the respirator plug?

[GliderGuider]

82. Damnit, I think I just sprained my Schadenfreude bone... (nt)

.

[Bouncy Ball]

83. How old is he?

Just curious.

[loro mi dicevano]

96. 71.

No, I didn't just know off the top of my head - I just read a newsstory that said. ;)

[LibertyLover]

101. Age

CNN said that he is 71.

[Ironpost]

86. Hurry get him hooked up to the machines

can't have him dying on us now can we.

[goodboy]

87. breaking: Doctors say, a huge bullshit imbalance is the cause...

[YellowRubberDuckie]

88. Pneumonia, not a heart attack, apparently.

He's on a respirator.
Duckie

[warrens]

98. CNN report...

"I can tell you he is in the hospital and he is resting, and that is all I know," said Jessica Tucker of Jerry Falwell's Ministries.

The hospitalization was Falwell's second this year. He was treated in Lynchburg General Hospital for 13 days in late February and early March while battling pneumonia.

Falwell, 71, is the founder and chancellor of Liberty University.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

105. I saw it on Fox News...

Apparently his son is in touch with them or something. I guess birds of a feather...
Duckie

[Roland99]

143. If he was just in Chattanooga, would he have pneumonia?

Seems he wouldn't want to travel if he's ill.

[rsmith6621]

89. Heart Attacks And Homosexuallity

Dont You All Hope Jerry Get A Homosexual NurseO8)

That would test his faith wouldnt it.

[AlFrankin]

90. we should be so lucky!

[demnan]

92. You mean that bastard had a heart?

Next you'll be telling me Cheney has one too.

[Wapsie B]

93. Yes!!!!!!

Too bad he reproduced though.

[name not needed]

113. They're probably gay

as is the case with many offspring of these nutcases. ie Randall Terry and Alan Keyes.

[shantipriya]

97. Falwell heart attack

Let's have the eminent Dr Frist (the one who can diagonise by viewing old videos)treat him.

[Chovexani]

99. I'm so glad this smilie is available now

:dilemma:

Um...best wishes to his family. They're not all pigs.

See! I said something nice! :P

[tx_dem41]

100. My thoughts and sympathy go out to his family. n/t

[loro mi dicevano]

102. Disgusting - I can't believe the lot of you are celebrating.

I'm no fan of Falwell, but I don't wish death on anybody, ever. It brings us down to their level when we do that.

[Renew Deal]

112. He celebrated on 9/11.

He blamed his political enemies for 9/11 and used it as "proof" the US is going down the wrong path.

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'"

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/14/Falwell.apology/

I'm not celebrating because he's not dead yet, but he can go fuck himself while he's here.

[loro mi dicevano]

117. He's a bastard, but that doesn't justify the things people are

saying here.

[Georgia_Dem]

126. It's probably poetic justice.

The man would be having Jews, gays, Catholics, etc. murdered in Spanish Inquisition fasion if he had his way. The son of a bitch deserves every hateful post this thread has produced, as well as that
sickness.

[skip fox]

104. How the hell could he get a heart attack? He lacks a major

component required for the condition.

[tx_dem41]

106. This thread seems to be full of posters that think just like Falwell.

And, I thought we were better than him. Oh well, this thread is proof that we wallow in the mud with the likes of him.

When any liberal dies or suffers some malady, I tend to go over to FR to see what the Freepers are saying. They never fail to support my feeling that they have very little humanity in their character. And, now I see this thread, a thread that would fit in quite nicely at FR if you changed "Falwell" to "Clinton".

[Misunderestimator]

110. You're so funny...

and always consistent.

[Renew Deal]

115. Where were you when Reagan died?

That was fun. ;)

[CTLawGuy]

119. right

the reason we ARE better than Freepers is because we (or at least SOME of us) ACT better than freepers.

If we acted as they do, we would be just like them.

[tx_dem41]

135. We appear to be just like them....today at least.

Its a very sad comment too.

[Shadder]

132. Humanity?

Hell, I'd be willing to bet that if you go to his website by now they have a donation link up because God wants to "Save Jerry's Life" and only YOU can do it by sending in a donation of $100 or more.

Hard to feel humanity for pond scum

[tx_dem41]

141. I thought humanity was something we Democrats were

proud of possessing in our character.

[loro mi dicevano]

145. Thank you.

I thought so too.

[jonnyblitz]

138. what the fuck ever.

who cares what free republic says about clinton. I certainly don't care what they say about anybody one way or the other. I am not one of those who gasps in horror when they are gleeful when somethng happens to one of our people. i expect it.

[tx_dem41]

144. You're right. I really only care about what my side shows in ..

our collective character. Hence, my post.

I don't gasp in horror either when I see how freepers reacts. From THEM, I expect such behavior.

[GOPFighter]

159. There's a difference

Clinton never made it his lif'es goal to demonize those he didn't agree with, Falwell did. Fallwell got rich and lived very well demonizing gays, atheists, and liberals. I despise Fallwell, but I don't wish harm on him, never have. But it will not break my heart not to have him around anymore.

[tx_dem41]

160. Please read other posts in this thread.

They go way beyond "not having my heart broken".

[GOPFighter]

190. I daresay they're venting

I'm reasonably certain that if any of them came upon Jerry Fallwell in a life-threatening situation, they give him aid. And as much as I'm loath to say it, Freepers would do the same for Bill (but maybe not Hillary!).

[oasis]

198. Clinton never had a bad word to say about anyone.There's a big difference.

:nopity: Falwell, make peace with God because your numbers up.

[lyonn]

249. Not "wallowing in the mud"

Many of us simply stating what Falwell preached and who he condemned and the reason for our anger with this man. Clinton never "damned" anyone. Republicans that have extra marrital affairs never get much attention from the dems. but the repubs. wallow in it if it a dem.

[ronnykmarshall]

109. Let us join hands and sing ....

Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.

Wake up - sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead.

She's gone where the goblins go,
Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.

Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Wicked Witch is dead!

[progressoid]

114. Must....keep....strait....face

[Frances]

116. Falwell has a living will that says not to pull the plug

That's OK by me.

I prefer that all the money naive people sent him be spent on hospital expenses rather than hateful right wing nut political expenses.

[nolabels]

181. That sounds like a good idea

Who says the people at DU are not creative enough

Maybe we should take up a collection to send him some roses even ;-)

[MikeG]

120. I hope he gets better. Death is not the penalty for disagreement.

[underpants]

124. I agree

[tx_dem41]

148. I agree, too.

Excellent post, MikeG. That should be the philosophy that we all live by.

[Blue_In_AK]

263. Tx-Dem, damnit, you're making me feel guilty

for what my immediate response was. Of course, you're right. :blush:

[denverbill]

149. I don't desire his death.

I don't desire the death of anyone, except maybe bin Laden.

But I'll save my prayers for the tens of thousands of people who have sent him money in the false belief that he could give them salvation or cure their diseases.

Using people's faith to bilk them out of money is the lowest form of con-job.

[burythehatchet]

219. what Falwell has done in his life

transcends well beyond mere disagreement. He has caused a lot of pain to a lot of people.

[mtnester]

123. My wish

is for Nixon to be waiting on him, with a sharp stick, so he can poke Falwell with it for eternity saying over and over..."told you so...told you so.."

Sorry, you won't get any sympathy from me...my son is gay and here are some of the things the good reverend had to say about him:

<snip>

...on Thursday morning, September 13, in one of his rare guest appearances on Pat Robertson's 700 Club, Here is what Falwell said on The 700 Club:

"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way — all of them have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'"

With Pat Robertson nodding his ascent, Jerry Falwell explained the tragedies in New York City and Washington, D.C., as proof that "God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."

<snip>

<snip>

His "not really" apology: http://gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/people/100101pe.htm

Many attempts at the "not really" apology: http://www.fallwell.com/newsRESPONSE.html

<snip>
On Meet the Press, Falwell lied about post-9-11 remarks http://mediamatters.org/items/200411290008

<snip>

[clem_c_rock]

127. And - I'm supposed to feel What???

Actually,

That just made my day.


Sorry - I have to be a dick about this one.

[salin]

128. I can't bring myself

to wish physical ill on others- so will refrain from commentary that Falwell's words over the years so beckon to be made...

Will say that there is a real odd confluence of events in the past week or so... coincidence - but still odd...

During this sideshow in Fla - which was fueled by a very unpopular action by congress and the pres... a lot of folks watching are being made uncomfortable...

And coming up very shortly... the trial of abortion clinic and olympic park bomber, Randolf - a reminder to the public of the deadly consequences of the rhetoric of the most radical of the rr...

And now this? Just getting the sense that more is likely to unfold - and in a continuing very odd way.

[Cobalt Violet]

131. That song from the Wizard of Oz was the first thing that popped in my mind

Ding Dong the Witch is Dead. That song.:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[notadmblnd]

133. Don't worry about Jerry

They'll probably rip a heart out of a perfectly healthy human being and stuff it in the old pigs chest.

[On Par]

134. If Falwell does Die... Remember,

...you should only say "good" about the dead. So let me be the first.

He's dead. Good!

[demnan]

152. Yeah, my thoughts exactly

It's not like saying something bad about someone is going to cause them ill, is it?

[caligirl]

192. Will his hospital bills bankrupt the righties!!!

[Q3JR4]

140. Also trying to think of something sympathetic to say...

....nothing sympathetic wants to come out...oh!....holding... tongue....

[Blue Belle]

151. Here's a link to the story on MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7326716/

I love how the very next headline is about Terri Schaivo's husband seeking an autopsy for Terri.

The Schaivo/Falwell link up is already starting.

[LeftyMom]

155. I won't speak ill of the man as he lay dying

:walks off humming last line of Masters of War:

[Wind Dancer]

241. Indeed, one of Dylan's finest! n/t

[PleadTheFirst]

245. That pretty much sums it up for me too, LM. n/t

[Oreo]

157. He compared himself to Schiavo a couple days ago

I guess God took him up on his words

http://mediamatters.org/items/200503280007
Falwell likened his bout with pneumonia to Schiavo's condition

In his Easter Sunday televised sermon and in a CNN appearance that same day, the Rev. Jerry Falwell compared his recent bout with viral pneumonia to Terri Schiavo's condition.

From Falwell's March 27 televised Easter sermon, broadcast from his Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia:

FALWELL: Terri, who is not on life support, has never been on life support, she had a feeding tube in. A month ago, I had a feeding tube and I was on a ventilator, but I was not in a persistent vegetative state -- many people go through that. And Terri, Terri was not -- is not unconscious. She is aware, she's limited, she's unable to say and do as once she did, but she has a mother and father who love her.

From the March 27 broadcast of CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer:

FALWELL: She has never been on life support. A month ago, I was on a ventilator to breathe, and I had a feeding tube down my nose, just like she. And thank the Lord, I'm out of it, and I preached two times this morning in my Easter services.

But I've already given my living will. Don't you dare pull the plug on me. I want to wake up in 14 years and say, "What day is it? What time is it?"

[ronnykmarshall]

158. Yahoo link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050329/ap_on_re_us/falwell_2

[Megahurtz]

161. Spending a little too much of your

ill-gotten gain on food there, Jer? :puffpiece:

[mmonk]

162. Since

Jesus said to love my enemies, it is in that vain that I wish Rev. Falwell a speedy recovery even though I'm pretty sure he would not do the same for me.

[skip fox]

164. Few if any of us wish ill on this man, but (you could hear it coming,

right?), he is in part responsible for the pain and suffering of many and may even be one of a few handful of individuals to create environmental catastrophe by insisting to his minions (and to politicians) that global warming is junk science.

Thus, he could be in part responsible for the extinction of the species.

Our feelings are natural, and I refuse to apologize for them. I think he has always been heartless and has had a terrible effect on our country. I'd never wish him dead, and hope that such an attack might make him see the world with more compassion and understanding. Meanwhile . . .

[anarchy1999]

165. Can we all rise above this fray? I'm sorry for the man, his family and

wish no ill towards anyone.


To the Mods, IMHO, I think anything derogatory towards this event should be cut. I'm sorry for us all.

[tx_dem41]

168. Here, here anarchy1999!

We have had our differences before, but I'm glad we are in perfect agreement on this one.

[LostinVA]

179. I have been listening to this man's HATEFUL homophobic

speech for decades, along with his disgusting anti-women screeds. I do not have to "rise above the fray" and say I'm sorry he had a heart attack and may die. I won't wish him dead, because I very much believe in Karma. But I have been watching him whip up the masses against me, and colluding elected officials to pass hateful laws. I have watched him tarnish and degrade the name of Jesus of Nazareth for years. I do not owe him an iota of compassion or sympathy.

Sorry, Anarchy. I don't wish him dead, but I won't apologize for thinking this is Karma. You reap what you sow, and he has sowed hate and death and intolerance for most of his life.

[Arugula Latte]

202. Good post, LostinVA

Our "sensitivity" has let thugs like Falwell ride roughshod over us for years.

I've had enough.

I'm not going to alter my feelings or speech for any lurking wingnuts.

[Mad_Dem_X]

211. Excellent post!

Says it all...:applause:

[tx_dem41]

215. If you want to allow the hatefulness he has sewn consume you...

...feel free to. Just don't expect it from everyone.

[LostinVA]

227. Errr... hate isn't consuming me, and I didn't write that it was

I was stating I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. Or better yet, no empathy. You're putting words into my mouth. You are free to feel as much sympathy for him as you want, and I respect that. But many people on this board are accusing those of us who don't have sympathy for him as being as bad as Freepers. No, Freepers hate. I don't hate him. I hate what his words and actions have done to people over the years. And part of this is how he has been in the vanguard of given Christians a bad name. There are many good Christians out there who emulate Christ, but Falwell bears false witness.

[tx_dem41]

237. You're right....I rechecked your post, and I did put words in your mouth..

sorry about that.

[LostinVA]

257. No worries n/t

[LostinVA]

228. SElf Delete -- Dupe

My server is acting wonky

[skip fox]

171. You bet. What the heck is free speech anyway?

:toast:

[tx_dem41]

226. Sigh....the issue of free speech has to do with the government ..

restricting your speech, not the private owners of the private forum, DU. Come on, this is Constitution 101...basic stuff.

[skip fox]

243. It has to do with any constraint, legal or social. "The cost of liberty

is eternal viligence."

Free speech for all, regardless of who migh constrain it, is the rock-bottom foundation for democracy, free inquiry, etc. I'd be a cad if I didn't say it. (AND it includes distasteful speech.)

Again, no reason to pick a fight. I admire many of your views, but with free speech . . . well, it's centrally impt ot me.

[tx_dem41]

246. Free speech is important to me as well....

I just don't believe that I could go up to my boss, call him an asshole, and expect to keep my job.

Thanks, for the response!

[ronnykmarshall]

183. Yeah

I'll show the mother fucker the same compassion he's shown my gay brothers and sisters.

Having lost my brother to AIDS and many of my friends as well, I can honestly say I don't give a flying FUCK about that asshole.

[psychopomp]

262. Link here for a hefty dose of Falwell quotes

Enough reason for some schadenfreude when you consider his influence on the corruption of our nation.

edit: oops (4am here)
http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/jerry_falwell

[Algorem]

166. Pat Robertson et al each now plotting how to get Falwell's $business$.

[PhuLoi]

218. Falwell's buisness was purchased by Moon for 3.5mil years ago

visit rigorus intuition for details.

[0rganism]

167. Why doesn't this mean God is Angry at Jerry Falwell?

If Falwell recovers, it will be touted as a sign of God's will for him to live on and continue his "ministry", for life is short. If he dies, it will be a sign that his mission must be carried on by others, as Rev. Falwell has gone to sup with Lord Jesus in Heaven.

OTOH, whenever something lousy happens to non-televangelists, God is Angry and Smiting their Iniquities. E.g., God decided to smite Indonesia with tsunamis and earthquakes because they're heathen muslim sinners. God allowed terrorists to strike New York because he's angry at permissive liberals and abominable homosexuals.

Oh, Lord God, what complex and inscrutable messages you communicate to your humble creatures! One would almost have to be a prophet to understand them...

[Dulcinea]

193. Maybe God is angry with Jerry.

"I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

--First Commandment (I think)

[Renew Deal]

170. Here's another way to put it.

[LostinVA]

172. "Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord; I will repay."

Romans. I think Romans 3:12. I don't own a Bible anymore....

[Renew Deal]

188. Romans 12:19-21

Good memory

"19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

[lyonn]

221. Well he better hurry up with his vengeance

We are in pain here trying to be "tolerant" and overcoming this "Evil" that is ruling our country. Amen

[Name removed]

173. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[toad12]

175. I don't wish death or harm to this man...

but I will not shed a tear if he dies.

[Flagg]

176. Burn in hell, piece of shit.

[Lindacooks]

177. Here's a Bible verse for him:

"Nothing can heal your wound; your injury is fatal. Everyone who hears the news about you claps his hands at your fall, for who has not felt your endless cruelty?" Nahum 3:19

[LostinVA]

180. Nice one, Linda.

I don't believe in the Bible as the Word of God, but it has alot of truths in there.

[jonnyblitz]

207. now there is a bible verse i can like!

:thumbsup:

[Shakespeare]

182. Huh. God's finally catching up on the karma backlog. n/t

[RetroLounge]

184. My condolences to his Family

but I hope he rots in hell...

RL

[FlaGranny]

187. One would hope for

Mr. Falwell to have one of those life changing after death experiences and come to his senses, recover fully, and explain to his followers how evil his deeds had been, and expose a few other leeches in the process. Those are my wishes for him.

[oxbow]

191. God be with the Falwell family

Perhaps this suffering will give him pause, and a chance to reconsider his purpose for being on this earth. Hate the sin not the sinner, I say.

EDIT: FlaGranny and I just posted the same wish for him! Let it be done, Lord!

[graywarrior]

194. Gee, I wonder why this comes to mind

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

[Zerex71]

195. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth,

that shall he also reap.

Galatians VI:7, Jerry.

[bunny planet]

196. It speaks volumes to me that the first impulse I had was to smile seeing

the heading of this thread.

Now that makes me truly sad. I've really come to hate these people, so in a sense, the hatred they spew has been effective.:( That sucks.

[caligirl]

199. Who pays his hospital bills ? Bankruptcy for the jee zus freaks trying

to keep him on earth, rather than in heaven!!! How sweet.

Falwell Dead,,, GOOD :applause: :applause: :applause: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[frictionlessO]

201. When Arafat was near death, I wished his family well... Ill do the same

for this man. To me and many other pagan/GLBT/prochoice people. He is the father figure of many hate groups... just like Arafat.

This man was a devout and sworn enemy of people and ideals I hold dear.

I hope his family sees their way clear to true emotional healing...maybe if he lives he will to, as he so obviously needs it.

[nolabels]

203. Wow ! to think when I first saw this thread a half hour ago it had only...

about 22 posts, Jerry Falwell must be a pretty popular guy :-)

[Redstone]

204. How can a man with no heart have a heart attack?

Just curious.

Redstone

[matcom]

208. i feel HORRIBLE!!

i think i need a root canal

other than that, interesting story

[Skidmore]

209. There are a lot of posts here

assuming imminent death. Does one always assume death with a massive heart attack? Just asking. Not a doctor and I don't play one on C-SPAN.

[readmylips]

212. Best thing I read today...that son-of-a-Bitch...pig.

may he rot in hell.

[Charlie Brown]

214. Some of the posts here truly disgust me

Delighting in another human being's pain and suffering is just monstrous.

My condolences to the Falwell family and my best wishes that the Rev. undergoes a speedy recovery.

[hippiechick]

216. Tube 'em and leave him that way for 50 years or so ....

I mean .... it's the Lord's will, right ? :evilgrin:

[bspence]

217. All this talk of pneumonia and a strange illness today...

makes me think...AIDS?

We couldn't be that lucky, could we?

[LannyDeVaney]

220. His type is threatening the future of the United States...

therefore ... well, you take that as you will.

[bluestateguy]

222. For now, I'm going to wish him well

But I also hope that he will let go of his hatred after this experience.

[BigMcLargehuge]

223. Good

my only regret is he probably won't live long enough to get terminal cancer, or flesh eating bacteria infections.

[buff2]

224. Payback is a bitch,ain't it Falwell?

but we all know it's Clinton's fault,don't we? This is what happens when you are mean and evil. What goes around,comes around.At least his bigoted homophobic mouth is shut for now.These kinds of people are the ones who get the most air time. It's been horrible what he has done and said. I never saw that video he put out about President Clinton,but my fundie sister and her rightwingnut church friends sure passed it around. To this day I don't speak or have anything to do with her. That isn't the only reason,though. She is a pure nutcase through and through. A Bible thumping hypocrite,just like all the rest of them.:puke:

[DinahMoeHum]

225. Reallly? You gotta have a heart before you can have an attack.

:evilfrown::popcorn:

[qanda]

229. That's terrible

May God bless him and his family.

[rocktivity]

232. Just when the Bush Empire needs to knock Terri off the front pages

and rehab the image of his religious wingnut owners...they could turn his funeral into a replay of Ronald Reagan's.

Dammit (if you'll pardon the expression). Well, the gloating was fun while it lasted.

:headbang:
rocknation

[matcom]

233. QUICK!! TUBE HIM!!

:7

[Old and In the Way]

235. Wouldn't want to be in his shoes when he meets his Maker.

Here's hoping he has a divine revelation, ala Lee Atwater, and admits that he has sowed great discord in the name of God. I hope he recovers and repudiates his past. Then some good will have come of it.

[fryguy]

236. remove his tube, remove his tube!!!

here's a link by the way:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050329/ap_on_re_us/falwell

[Emillereid]

239. I don't know why but I can't seem to take any joy in this news --

must be because of my secular humanism.

[donheld]

242. If you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all

I will now be very very quiet. :bounce:

[Blue_In_AK]

247. I really don't want to say this...

Yes, I do. IT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO A BETTER PERSON!

[pilgrimsoul]

248. Just a question to ponder....

Would anyone be admonishing people for posting their true feelings on this thread if it were Karl Rove or Dick Cheney in the hospital instead of Jerry Falwell? Do some people feel that Jerry Falwell is off limits because they are uncomfortable about speaking ill of a minister/evangelist? I would sincerely like to know if there is a difference in people's minds.

[Charlie Brown]

251. Not at all

I sympathize when I hear about any person suffering or dying. I believe I offered condolences on this site to Reagan's family when he passed away, and I prayed for Dick Cheney when he was in the hospital in 2001. I see no reason to "wish death" on people who I consider my enemies. Quite the contrary, our side should set the example and offer condolences and good wishes at every opportunity when other human beings are suffering.

That is the way of true people of faith.

[Blue_In_AK]

276. You are right, of course,

because it "heaps coals on their heads." There is nothing so discomfiting as having someone you've been horrible to giving you aid and comfort in a time of need.

[Lerkfish]

258. I think only to the extent that it seems wrong to wish ill to anyone

in the clergy, even drastically wrong-thinking clergy.
just as I would be hesitant to say anything ill against the Pope, while he is suffering ill health, even though I'm not catholic.

if there would be a difference at all, i think that's why it would manifest itself.

[nolabels]

272. He pulled his pants on the same as any serial killer on Death Row

Would the zealots and the parties that love the death penalty and war start showing REAL compassion for their fellow man? If that were the case it would be more easy to reciprocate in a civil manner. Till then, tit for tat might be the rule of the day. (isn't that convenient for politicians :banghead:).


Degrading ourselves to their level might not be productive, but sure does help to blow off steam. The root of the problem is the people that got such a poor learning experience that they believed in what this man had to say on some things. Till others are willing challenge the prevailing wisdom or ways than nothing will change. Some others will always teach hate as long as no one checks them on it. If he gets back some of what he gave (what ever it was)it should come as no surprise. Reaping what you sow is as old as time itself

[Ilsa]

252. Okay, I just got back from lunch.

Is he dead yet?

I loved that line about yanking the plug like they were starting a lawn mower.

So, if they have to run radiologic tests on his heart, will he finally acknowledge the reality of science, or will it be some sort of "White Magic" they are using on him?

[dave29]

253. Condolences to his family

n/t

[BlueIris]

254. I'll cry about him later. Right now

there's this pencil I have to sharpen at my desk. For the rest of my life.

[ronnykmarshall]

265. I gotta use this new smiley for that one!

:spray::spray::spray::spray:

[Lerkfish]

256. My wish: that this brush with mortality causes him to search deep

within himself and realize how frickin wrong he has been about the teachings of christ, and how he must spent the rest of his life undoing all the wrong he has caused.

then, i wish him a speedy and full recovery to allow to do God's ACTUAL work, instead of the bizarro world agenda he's been following thus far.

[Mz Pip]

259. Bummer

He'll miss the Rapture.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[katty]

260. Do U.S. a favor: DON'T keep Jerry on Life Support

[retread]

269. You don't think there is such a thing as karma? n/t

[Mrs_Beastman]

266. the human part of me wishes him well....

the evil side of me is doing the endzone dance!

:dilemma:

[Logansquare]

271. What did the Xian Right say when Clinton had a heart attack?

Back at ya, brothers in Christ.

[kaitykaity]

275. Amen!

I know two wrongs don't make a right, but it sure
feels good to say that, esp. with all of the lecturing
going on here.

[Toucano]

274. FINALLY!

It's about time God called that son of a bitch home!

[raggedcompany]

277. Good! I wish him the worst. n/t

[Whoa_Nelly]

278. CNN: Falwell on ventilator and critical

Just reported on TV

[Sean Reynolds]

280. I hope he dies and becomes Hitler's sex puppet.

[maddezmom]

284. locking

updated thread here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1350948